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thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 573 Arc User
With the appearance of canon Klingons like Rodek and Martok, they have also brought with them canon accurate forehead ridges. Personally I think it's time we start to see these types of forehead ridges added to the tailor. As of right now there are only a handful of ridge designs available in the tailor I like and I think it would be neat to finally add more to the game. Not just the new ones from Rodek and Martok, but others like the TMP Klingon, Generations Klingon, or some of the various TUC Klingons like Gorkon, Chang or Worf.

The Klingons are a very diverse people and soon they will be even more diverse when STO inevitably introduces the Discovery Klingons and I just wish we could see more of that diversity in game. I would love to customize my Bridge Officers so they look like they're from different Houses and what not. It would also be great to see some Klingon NPCs get updates too, so that any new designs added by Cryptic could be seen more often. Spread it around so it looks natural. While they're at it, the TOS style Gorn was added to the game and it would be neat to see that style and the STO style both walking around Qo'noS instead of just the one style.

Perhaps this is something they could look into if/when they give the Klingon Campaign a remaster? Just a thought, because I would personally like to see more designs in the future.
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  • sisko09sisko09 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    I would also like to see updated klingon hair styles, considering Kurn And Martok have some really nice hair i'd like to use on my klingons
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    With the appearance of canon Klingons like Rodek and Martok, they have also brought with them canon accurate forehead ridges. Personally I think it's time we start to see these types of forehead ridges added to the tailor. As of right now there are only a handful of ridge designs available in the tailor I like and I think it would be neat to finally add more to the game. Not just the new ones from Rodek and Martok, but others like the TMP Klingon, Generations Klingon, or some of the various TUC Klingons like Gorkon, Chang or Worf.

    The Klingons are a very diverse people and soon they will be even more diverse when STO inevitably introduces the Discovery Klingons and I just wish we could see more of that diversity in game. I would love to customize my Bridge Officers so they look like they're from different Houses and what not. It would also be great to see some Klingon NPCs get updates too, so that any new designs added by Cryptic could be seen more often. Spread it around so it looks natural. While they're at it, the TOS style Gorn was added to the game and it would be neat to see that style and the STO style both walking around Qo'noS instead of just the one style.

    Perhaps this is something they could look into if/when they give the Klingon Campaign a remaster? Just a thought, because I would personally like to see more designs in the future.

    I truly and honestly hope they DO NOT bring that Neu Klingon TRIBBLE here.
  • thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 573 Arc User
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    I truly and honestly hope they DO NOT bring that Neu Klingon **** here.

    Prepair to be disappointed.
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,130 Arc User
    sisko09 wrote: »
    I would also like to see updated klingon hair styles, considering Kurn And Martok have some really nice hair i'd like to use on my klingons

    Plus I would not mind Miral Paris' hair to use as well, and she herself is 1/2 Klingon.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 7,036 Community Moderator
    YES! YES! YES!

    More forehead ridge options for sure.

    More hairstyles have been needed for Klingons for awhile now. I'd love to have access to the Martok and Rodek hairstyles, even Worf's in-game hairstyle would be welcome. I'd also love to see Worf's ponytail hairstyle from TNG/DS9 added to the game.

    I also love that one-eyed look that Martok has. It would be great to add that with right or left options. Along those lines, more scar options would be great, too.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,534 Arc User
    Yes, yes, yes. More forehead ridge styles and hairstyles and scars/one-eye options without needing the eyepatch.
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  • shinku#4469 shinku Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    Ahem Star Trek Discovery.
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  • roguegamer23roguegamer23 Member Posts: 65 Arc User
    Isn't the discovery Klingon the same as the j j Abrams Klingon, My Klingon currently has something similar to those two.
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    I truly and honestly hope they DO NOT bring that Neu Klingon **** here.

    Prepair to be disappointed.
    Isn't the discovery Klingon the same as the j j Abrams Klingon, My Klingon currently has something similar to those two.

    Yes sadly that thinly disgused KT garbage is going to get in the game. Just shows how little CBS cares about well established TOS timeline canon. It wouldn't bug me if from day one CBS had said "The events in TRIBBLE take place 10 years before the events in the KT timeline. " but they have kept saying "The events in TRIBBLE take place 10 years before the events in the TOS." . In CBS's own words lie the roots of why a vast majority of Star Trek fans have issues with TRIBBLE.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    asking for something for anyone but the federation? are you new here? :D

    Seriously tho, yes please to more hair and ridges for klinks

    and some hair options that dont suck balls for my caitians/ferasan while yer at it maybe?
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    Yes, please!!! :)
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  • jrdobbsjr#3264 jrdobbsjr Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    TRIBBLE looks to be a epic fail, sadly
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    TRIBBLE looks to be a epic fail, sadly
    If it does the fail it lies 100% on CBS no one else. They were given the oppertunity of the century to craft a new epic series and have instead spat on the TOS timeline canon. And don't give me that BS how it shouldn't look like the 60's the look for the era is well known thanks to Enterprise love it or hate it Doug Drexler, The Okudas and the rest made it feel looks wise that it was before TOS even though there were modern looking controls and such. I will watch the pilot but thats it. CBSall access has nothing else to offer that my wife and I are even remotely interested in.

  • colonelmarikcolonelmarik Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    Ten years before TOS? That would have been during the command of Christopher Pike, so what's with the glitzy "uniforms" and TNG style tech everywhere?

    I was really hoping Discovery would turn Trek around again, but instead it seems it's just taking another dump on the Star Trek we all grew up with.
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  • jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    Definitelly would be nice to see. :smile:
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  • thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 573 Arc User
    Oh yes, their hair would also be great to see added. Actually I would like to see a bunch of TUC Klingon stuff added to the game, like their uniforms. TUC is my favorite Star Trek film and they should continue to borrow stuff from it post-TUC Lockbox.
  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    I would love to see the option for the new Klingon head ridges. I find it ironic that in a thread about Klingon diversity people don't want discovery's klingons in the game.....yeah total irony there. So look at it like this. If they bring it to this game, and you don't like the new klingons, don't use them. There I sovled a problem. Also we need more hair styles o.o
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  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    chiyoumiku wrote: »
    I would love to see the option for the new Klingon head ridges. I find it ironic that in a thread about Klingon diversity people don't want discovery's klingons in the game.....yeah total irony there. So look at it like this. If they bring it to this game, and you don't like the new klingons, don't use them. There I sovled a problem. Also we need more hair styles o.o
    Well, Star Trek: Discovery Klingons are bald for physiological reasons. I doubt they will add more hairstyles. They will show more "ridge" styles. Also, each of the 24 Great Houses in Star Trek: Discovery will have different clothes and accessories to reflect the philosophical differences between them. They should be a great source of different Klingon apparel.
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,792 Arc User
    redvenge wrote: »
    chiyoumiku wrote: »
    I would love to see the option for the new Klingon head ridges. I find it ironic that in a thread about Klingon diversity people don't want discovery's klingons in the game.....yeah total irony there. So look at it like this. If they bring it to this game, and you don't like the new klingons, don't use them. There I sovled a problem. Also we need more hair styles o.o
    Well, Star Trek: Discovery Klingons are bald for physiological reasons. I doubt they will add more hairstyles. They will show more "ridge" styles. Also, each of the 24 Great Houses in Star Trek: Discovery will have different clothes and accessories to reflect the philosophical differences between them. They should be a great source of different Klingon apparel.

    assuming we actually see more then one or two of them. personally I wouldn't use what we've seenon a klingon, a kdf alien maybe but not a klingon... then again my kdf kelvin timeline character is a joined trill.

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  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    nightken wrote: »
    assuming we actually see more then one or two of them.
    I'm assuming you mean "more than one or two Klingons on Star Trek: Discovery?

    The first season revolves around the Klingon-Federation war with some focus on the strife between the Great Houses of the Klingon Empire. The writers, showrunners and actors all seemed really enthusiastic about sharing their designs for the different Great Houses. I don't know if we will see all 24 Great Houses, but the crew behind Star Trek: Discovery definitely want to show us more than one. Most assuredly we will see more than one or two Klingons.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    If it does the fail it lies 100% on CBS no one else.

    actually we get to blame JJ for this too :) Its being done with bad robot and paramount's license so it literally and legally cannot look like any TV Trek.... the fact that they cant even get along well enough to make money is just its own separate level of epic fail
  • shadowfang240shadowfang240 Member Posts: 35,858 Arc User
    Its being done with bad robot and paramount's license

    no, it isn't; that TRIBBLE has been repeatedly disproven

    stop spreading false information​​
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    What?! There are Klingons in the KDF?! :o I thought it was just an Orion female sorority! :D
  • thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 573 Arc User
    Its being done with bad robot and paramount's license

    no, it isn't; that **** has been repeatedly disproven

    stop spreading false information​​

    That's the sad part. It means CBS is willingly changing everything simply because they can, canon be damned. Personally I don't hate the new Klingons and would gladly add one to my Bridge crew. What I don't like is CBS retconning ALL the Klingons. Instead they should just be a never before seen version of Klingons that coexists with the others. I would accept that.

  • themadprofessor#9835 themadprofessor Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    sisko09 wrote: »
    I would also like to see updated klingon hair styles, considering Kurn And Martok have some really nice hair i'd like to use on my klingons

    Plus I would not mind Miral Paris' hair to use as well, and she herself is 1/2 Klingon.

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    Let's not turn this into ANOTHER Discovery debate thread, please. :confounded:
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,808 Arc User
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    Would be nice to have the human/klingon hybrid ridges from TNG and Romulan/klingon hybrid look from TNG's birthright
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    • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 53,052 Community Moderator
      Its being done with bad robot and paramount's license

      no, it isn't; that **** has been repeatedly disproven

      stop spreading false information​​

      That's the sad part. It means CBS is willingly changing everything simply because they can, canon be damned. Personally I don't hate the new Klingons and would gladly add one to my Bridge crew. What I don't like is CBS retconning ALL the Klingons. Instead they should just be a never before seen version of Klingons that coexists with the others. I would accept that.

      You're assuming the Augment Virus affected the ENTIRE Klingon species. We don't know how widespread the Virus was. It is possible that there were pockets of unaffected Klingons, or that it was only a fraction of the total population that was affected.

      Did the Virus make it all the way to Qo'nos and the core worlds of the Empire? How about to the opposite side from what would become Federation space?

      For sake of argument, using the Kelvin Timeline that split off in 2233 (As we have had NO ON SCREEN evidence of it being a pure parallel timeline from before 2233) we've seen Klingons on Qo'nos with ridges in Into Darkness, which implies that the Augment Virus did NOT make it to Qo'nos.
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    • thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 573 Arc User
      rattler2 wrote: »
      Its being done with bad robot and paramount's license

      no, it isn't; that **** has been repeatedly disproven

      stop spreading false information​​

      That's the sad part. It means CBS is willingly changing everything simply because they can, canon be damned. Personally I don't hate the new Klingons and would gladly add one to my Bridge crew. What I don't like is CBS retconning ALL the Klingons. Instead they should just be a never before seen version of Klingons that coexists with the others. I would accept that.

      You're assuming the Augment Virus affected the ENTIRE Klingon species. We don't know how widespread the Virus was. It is possible that there were pockets of unaffected Klingons, or that it was only a fraction of the total population that was affected.

      Did the Virus make it all the way to Qo'nos and the core worlds of the Empire? How about to the opposite side from what would become Federation space?

      For sake of argument, using the Kelvin Timeline that split off in 2233 (As we have had NO ON SCREEN evidence of it being a pure parallel timeline from before 2233) we've seen Klingons on Qo'nos with ridges in Into Darkness, which implies that the Augment Virus did NOT make it to Qo'nos.

      No I'm not, because I never mentioned TOS Klingons. The Discovery Klingons violate canon because they're all bald with blueberry skin, elongated skulls and four nostrills. I know the augment viris didn't infect the entire Empire, but the DSC Klingons are different from any Klingon we've seen before. If they established they were a different breed of Klingon and TMP, TNG, DS9 Klingons and so forth coexisted with them, then I wouldn't complain. So far however, it appears they just straight up retconned the Klingons.
    • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 53,052 Community Moderator
      Again an assumption. We've only seen a few Klingons from one particular House. Their appearance could be explained as some kind of sub-cultural thing like how some ancient cultures here on Earth would use boards to elongate the skulls of children to be closer to their gods. And the "4 nostrils" thing could again be cultural deformation. From what LITTLE we've seen, the primary antagonists are part of a more ritualistic Klingon House. In essence... one tribe out of many.

      Instead of crying foul and "violating canon" we should wait until the show airs to learn more rather than just go off a few trailers.
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