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What is your Favorite part of Mission Creation?

What could you never get tired doing? Do you like to weave together complex narrative into an engaging story? Could you spend all day building and perfecting that striking world for others to explore? Are you an (evil?) mastermind who's all too eager to challenge your players? Perhaps you're a jack of all trades who can do all this and possibly more? Or is there a secret talent unique to you?

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Post edited by starfarertheta on

What is your Favorite part of Mission Creation? 10 votes

Building maps.
50%
theyredeadjimthegreendragoon1thay8472starfarerthetaredbeard#5284 5 votes
Writing the story.
40%
psycoticvulcanspiritbornzebgodwinrancidmojo#7824 4 votes
Devising gameplay (things the player can do i.e. puzzles, diplomacy, and battles)
0%
The whole must be as one. (maps + story + gameplay + other)
10%
duncanidaho11 1 vote
Other (please specify)
0%

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  • theyredeadjimtheyredeadjim Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    Building maps.
    Most of the time, I just make a map for the sake of making a map. I enjoy creating new environments, and when I find something I like, I start to think about what might happen there in a more detailed way. In a way, the map is the muse.

    I find that once I have created the maps and then populated them with possible challenges, a good part of the story is actually writing itself for me. This is not to say that I load up bad guys and story done, but, as I work through the process, the story reveals itself to me, and the creation of dialogue becomes much easier and more natural.

    I've tried writing a story first, but find building the environment first to be more practical, as the options available through the Foundry may not meet the requirements of an independently conceived narrative.
  • zebgodwinzebgodwin Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    Writing the story.
    While building the maps is certainly enjoyable, and playing around in the costume creator is loads of fun, for me it's definitely the story. I'll get a crazy idea and build a story around it, and then try to make that work in the editor.

    For example, a while back I had this idea floating around in my head for a story where Starfleet characters and their Mirror Universe counterparts were trapped together somewhere and had been fighting each other for generations, since the TOS era. Then when the "USS Infinity" Foundry challenge was announced, the pieces all fell into place - I knew what my story was. Then it was just a matter of building it in the editor.
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  • starfarerthetastarfarertheta Member Posts: 738 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    Building maps.
    Most of the time, I just make a map for the sake of making a map. I enjoy creating new environments, and when I find something I like, I start to think about what might happen there in a more detailed way. In a way, the map is the muse....
    ...

    I almost have the same process you do. :)

    The difference being that I like to make up an outline to start just so I know what kinds of maps I'll need. The story is never finalised until I've finished the map though, which I like to take my time on. Building maps is practically stress relief for me.

    Actually I have a tendancy to spend too much time on map making (especially with my current project) mostly because I can get stressed out writing dialogue for the story. It seems I'm of the wordy type, and some typos can get by me. Many lessons were learned after making Omnitabula. On the plus side, I've gotten really good at building skycastles.

    zebgodwin wrote: »
    While building the maps is certainly enjoyable, and playing around in the costume creator is loads of fun, for me it's definitely the story. ...

    ....Then when the "USS Infinity" Foundry challenge was announced, the pieces all fell into place - I knew what my story was. Then it was just a matter of building it in the editor.

    Your method certainly works. I really enjoyed your Infinity mission. :)

    I don't usually leave reviews after playing a mission btw. Though as proof that I did play the mission is that I really liked how you really took the "mirror" in mirror universe to heart. I especially liked how you addressed the mirror effect regarding the player towards the end. :)
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    Writing the story.
    I might sound cliche but for me the story is the most important part of my foundry missions (I got several that are WIP in various stages of completeness in addition to the one that's avaible to public). Everything else flows from that story idea, I always have some idea of how the story will go (aka a vague idea what the beginning, middle and endpoint will be) even if the details might change over the crafting of the mission.
  • starfarerthetastarfarertheta Member Posts: 738 Arc User
    edited July 2017
    Building maps.
    spiritborn wrote: »
    I might sound cliche but for me the story is the most important part of my foundry missions (I got several that are WIP in various stages of completeness in addition to the one that's avaible to public). Everything else flows from that story idea, I always have some idea of how the story will go (aka a vague idea what the beginning, middle and endpoint will be) even if the details might change over the crafting of the mission.

    I like the think of the story as the glue that holds the mission together.

    To be clear though, this poll is more about what you enjoy doing the most in the foundry. I didn't really intend for any answers to be interpreted as a declaration of what one thinks is most important. I like to think every part is important, just that one of those might be more enjoyable to work on than the others. It all comes down to personal preference. :)


    P.S. - Somehow, I'm not entirely surprised to see that Duncan enjoys doing everything. :o
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,623 Arc User
    The whole must be as one. (maps + story + gameplay + other)
    Everything, I don't feel that you can have a great Foundry mission without its components complementing each other. The STO Foundry is an interactive, visual, story telling medium. While a strong story can compensate for weaknesses in other areas, the interaction between elements (when all done well) can catapult a good story or a good set of maps into a remarkable experience (greater than the sum of its parts type thing.)

    So, I like everything in the Foundry. Costumes, maps, dialog, gameplay, because what I'm interested in here is building the experience (in total.)
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    Writing the story.
    I hate building maps in the Foundry because the top-down 2-D interface with no layers is a pain in the a** to work with. I tend to use premades whenever possible.

    Writing dialogue, on the other hand... that's something I never get tired of.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 5,968 Arc User
    Building maps.
    I hate building maps in the Foundry because the top-down 2-D interface with no layers is a pain in the a** to work with. I tend to use premades whenever possible.

    Writing dialogue, on the other hand... that's something I never get tired of.

    yeah the 2-D is annoying, constantly loading the map so I can visualize what the prop looks like and they fit together can take up a lot of time.

    Still ... I like custom maps :D Though I will use premade one for certain parts of a mission.

  • redbeard#5284 redbeard Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    Building maps.
    The maps are more fun than writing the actual story. I usually have the general story outline in my head or written down. The first mission I made (which I got rid of for space and wasn't very good) I wrote everything, the story, dialog, everything, then sketched what I needed on the map. It was a total pain finding a base map to go with my story, so now I spend days making the map and then molding the story around the map.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,623 Arc User
    The whole must be as one. (maps + story + gameplay + other)
    thay8472 wrote: »
    yeah the 2-D is annoying, constantly loading the map so I can visualize what the prop looks like and they fit together can take up a lot of time.

    A top down 2D interface also its advantages. I've dabbled with Halo's forge mode (which has a 3D, Foundry-ish map building component) and I honestly prefer working with the Foundry. We have to load the map to visualize but once you have something down one can do a tremendous amount work in a short space of time (and get on with other things) because you're working from the top down omniscient perspective, with rapid mass item selection, no worries about the orientation of your POV, and very fine control.

    It has a nice balance of accessibility (you don't need dev experience to get into this) and capability, with the drawback that it's good to have something on in the background as you're waiting through the loading screens. :tongue:
    Bipedal mammal and senior Foundry author.
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    Evolution's Smile [SSF:3-3]
    Epoch, Part 2 [AEI]
    Transcendence, Part 4
    Memorial Tour

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    Looking for something new to play? The interactive Foundry Mission Database has you covered.
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