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kingarthur81
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I would like to start an ongoing thread, for any NPC-related costume errors, observed by players in STO.
These range from an NPC blatantly wearing the wrong uniform to minor errors like an incorrect rank or combadge on an NPC.
This is not to criticize, but to help the devs. Bringing these errors to light will hopefully lead to them being corrected and a high quality Star Trek-experience can be maintained with this game
Lt. Miral Paris in "The Kuvah'Magh" and following missions, prior to "Delta Flight". She is wearing a Lt. Commander rank and is referred to in dialogue and labelled as Lieutenant. Also, she is wearing yellow-engineering division color and referred to as a chief security officer (red-tactical). Her costume rank should be changed to Lt. and uniform color changed to red-tactical.
Lt. Kalapo in "Spin the Wheel" is wearing the rank of Ensign, but is referred to in dialogue and labelled as a Lieutenant.
His costume rank should be changed to Lt. or Lt. junior grade.
Temporal Agent Philip Crey wears the rank of Ensign. He says in dialogue that he has been in Starfleet since at least 2368, and for the sake of argument we will say he was 20, at the time. So that would make him 61 or so by the time STO takes place. Very unusual for him to have such a low rank, after so many years in Starfleet, even if he was trying to keep be "low key" as a Temporal Agent.
I would recommend changing his costume rank to Commander.
These range from an NPC blatantly wearing the wrong uniform to minor errors like an incorrect rank or combadge on an NPC.
This is not to criticize, but to help the devs. Bringing these errors to light will hopefully lead to them being corrected and a high quality Star Trek-experience can be maintained with this game
Lt. Miral Paris in "The Kuvah'Magh" and following missions, prior to "Delta Flight". She is wearing a Lt. Commander rank and is referred to in dialogue and labelled as Lieutenant. Also, she is wearing yellow-engineering division color and referred to as a chief security officer (red-tactical). Her costume rank should be changed to Lt. and uniform color changed to red-tactical.
Lt. Kalapo in "Spin the Wheel" is wearing the rank of Ensign, but is referred to in dialogue and labelled as a Lieutenant.
His costume rank should be changed to Lt. or Lt. junior grade.
Temporal Agent Philip Crey wears the rank of Ensign. He says in dialogue that he has been in Starfleet since at least 2368, and for the sake of argument we will say he was 20, at the time. So that would make him 61 or so by the time STO takes place. Very unusual for him to have such a low rank, after so many years in Starfleet, even if he was trying to keep be "low key" as a Temporal Agent.
I would recommend changing his costume rank to Commander.
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No it wasn't. Some members of the USS Defiant wore it as well as an unnamed crew from Court Martial. The Delta is the Starfleet emblem, not the Enterprises. Even in TOS.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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And I think the Devs have it bookmarked and read it regularly.
Over here: https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1125806/havelocks-tailor-and-costume-issues/p1
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I must disagree with you. Every ship had its own assignment badge in TOS. The Enterprise badge was one of many assignment badges issued to a certain ship/crew. The Enterprise badge eventually was adopted as the primary Starfleet Delta. This was post TWOK however. The 2 instances you have mentioned on TOS, I chalk up to either a) costuming error b) lack of available costuming. They used what they had. Starfleet Command badge was the primary "default" badge in TOS. See Commodores Wesley, Stocker, and Barstow, and Lt. Areel Shaw from "Court Martial".
The starship background should be changed to a TOS Constitution-class bridge, akin to the backgrounds used with Captain Isaac Garrett, Captain Bridget McKinnon, or Commander Spock.
Current Incorrect Bridge Background:
Examples of possible Correct Bridge Backgrounds:
Thanks for the heads up, but that thread seems to be for Tailor and player-related costume issues.
This thread is meant solely for NPC related costume issues.
I have amended the title of the thread, to reflect this.
But they didn't. There's two examples that prove that wrong.
And the Enterprise Delta wasn't adopted by Starfleet. It's not the Enterprises symbol. It's Starfleets. It appears on Friendship One as the logo of the UESPA, rotated 90 degrees on the ENT Starfleet logo, the mission patch of the USS Franklin, as the combadges for the USS Kelvin, every member of Starfleet in the KT films regardless of the ship of origin, both ships in DSC so far, and members of the Defiant and 'Court Martial' crews in TOS. In addition an angular version appears on the piping that adorns the hulls and nacelles of almost every Starfleet ship.
The Delta is the default, all others must have some other significance but it's not ship related.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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And TOS retconed itself enough times during its own run often at Roddenberrys insistance so there's no need to put it on a pedestal over retconning later series did.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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That is what I suggested earlier. In 23c, the Starfleet ships/stations assigned to the Donatu Sector could have one unique assignment badge, that they would wear, including Drozana Station crew.