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Cochran Event - overall positive, but broken

fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 615 Arc User
The Map.

I love this map. It is gorgeous. Like Risa it needs to be a permanent place. Like risa I doubt it really takes up serious cloud resources to keep it available once the event ended.

The Event.

I love it. My old high school music. Old fashioned scavenger hunts from decades before smartphones. Rocket launches which were a huge thing with families, again pre-internet. Wonderful.

The Fail.

The player doesn't have to play. This is corrosive. It is terrible for the game. But a person can just sit there. And get the same rewards. If this is by design just let them join and quit immediately. Heck just give them a 30 minute button and stay out of the way of the rest of us.

The Wrapup.

Anyway lovely gorgeous area. Make it permanent.

Event was well conceived.

And poorly implemented.

Edited: removed gratuitous parts ;)
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,385 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    So, everything is lovely, but there are AFKers, therefore it makes the whole event horrible, it's Cryptic's entire fault and someone should be fired for that?
    #TASforSTO
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    Repetition is the killer of fun. Here's a simple solution. Make all rewards from such events account unlocks.
  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    That's nice that everyone gets the same rewards regardless of effort. You say you can just stand there and get the voucher? Nice. It is only for four days guys.
  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,253 Arc User
    edited April 2017
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  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    I picked up one part and beamed out. Not something I really enjoyed doing so I decided to go play something else.
    Green people don't have to be.... little.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    Leechers or not, the event is AWESOME! Wish we could explore the map without a time constraint. Looks beautiful.

    And the last part, with the launch... I heard Magic Carpet Ride start up and I just couldn't help but smile.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • groomofweirdgroomofweird Member Posts: 1,045 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    Honestly, I don't care if I'm the only one who plays the thing properly, it doesnt make my rush to get stuff harder (easier iin some cases), nor does it detract from my personal results from the event.

    Edit: it is more fun when everyone plays though :)
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,983 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    Why was my parts bench on fire when I returned with parts?

    Please tell me that players can't do that to each other.

    If so then I need to be able to shoot them to prevent further damage, I will even use the event appropriate Cochran shotgun.

    Other than the surprise fire fun event.
  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    I thought the reward was account unlock once you do it on one toon?
  • groomofweirdgroomofweird Member Posts: 1,045 Arc User
    There was a random forest fire when I did one earlier, and another where I noticed an enemy in the map. I like the variations.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    it is more fun when everyone plays though :)

    Agreed. Although seeing an AFKer's rocket blow up a second after liftoff is good for a few laughs.
    Why was my parts bench on fire when I returned with parts?

    Please tell me that players can't do that to each other.

    Nope. Its just a random thing that can happen. Like how you have to sometimes prop up your sandcastle or chase off a monkey during the summer event.

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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • thearkadythearkady Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    To be sure, given the entire event is basically share solo content - it doesn't bloody matter what/if the other four in your queue do anything - there are no actual leechers.

    That said, it's a bloody stupid implementation. Cryptic, make up your damn minds: if you want to give rewards away for free, bloody actually do that. If you want people to have to do something, bloody well ensure they actually have to.

    This implementation is neither here nor there, and that's f'n stupid.
  • ussvaliant#6064 ussvaliant Member Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    I have only played it once i'm not going to play through all 22 characters on my account. These items need to be account unlocks. We have been encouraged in the past to create new characters with the AOY and Delta Recruits but expecting us to run events across a whole account esp those with multiple characters like myself is a bit much.

    This is a game and virtual entertainment to be played during free time, Now i'm sure i'll get some remarks about well its you're choice to have 22 characters and that's true but i wanted to fly different ships and use different species so creating alts was a ness to do that.

    I'll guess i'll have to wait for the next Phoenix Box.
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    Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    I have only played it once i'm not going to play through all 22 characters on my account.

    I'm only running my "Faction Mains", which is 4. The rest I haven't really done anything other than run Admiralty on for a while.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,114 Arc User
    thearkady wrote: »
    To be sure, given the entire event is basically share solo content - it doesn't bloody matter what/if the other four in your queue do anything - there are no actual leechers.

    Not leechers as such - my reward won't get hurt. But if I play it, I'd like to compete, not auto win by being the only one actually showing up. As has been said, this is not the best way to handle this.

    (Disclaimer though: I have run "empty" on a few toons myself, so I am not one to judge those who do likewise, even though I played most of them. This complaint is directly aimed at implementing the event in a way that absolutely encourages players to sit it out, because they won't even get a single mark, as they may do in Mirror)
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    Only minor improvement I'd enjoy seeing....a "Ready" button on the initial instructions. It's nice that they give new players some time to figure out what the heck is going on before the event begins, but once everyone has read it a few times, it'd be nice to be able to skip the waiting period. Especially if you have a lot of alts you're doing it with.

    Not a big thing, just a 'hey, that'd be nice'. :)
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,331 Arc User
    Great fun event when everyone competes for bragging rights, but once again Cryptic's AFK policy is severely lacking!! It's not good for the game's image and reputation when people are allowed to get away with AFK.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    There's nothing wrong with those who don't participate in this queue. It doesn't make it harder on the rest of us. I agree that non-participants are a problem in combat-oriented queues (read: every other queue in the game) but this is not one of those.
    thearkady wrote: »
    To be sure, given the entire event is basically share solo content - it doesn't bloody matter what/if the other four in your queue do anything - there are no actual leechers.

    That said, it's a bloody stupid implementation. Cryptic, make up your damn minds: if you want to give rewards away for free, bloody actually do that. If you want people to have to do something, bloody well ensure they actually have to.

    This implementation is neither here nor there, and that's f'n stupid.

    This implementation was to get people to be in the game for 10 minutes per participating character. Mission accomplished.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • valarauko43valarauko43 Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    To try and see this in a more positive way for me at least is that since there is no meaningful isntruction, some people may be thinking it through. I ran my self ragged until I finally, on my fourth character, figured out a method to the madness. Searching for parts makes a lot more sense now. Still only next to last four times now but at least know how to find better parts and adjust them to higher quality. The first time I stood there for a few seconds myself.
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,543 Arc User
    I would like to see scaling rewards so the best rockets get bonus marks or dilithium.
  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    They've been on a roll releasing great maps lately. And there's more great work to be found here.
    I'm especially enjoying their innovative use of elevation in the recent map designs.

    The scenery. The tall trees are a thing of beauty. And reminded me of my time out west.

    While I support making this map a permanent fixture in the game, those who are curious can look around for bit after the queue ends. You've got a couple minutes to roam around. Take some screen shots etc.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    Well...

    At least I do the event simultaneously with characters on my primary and secondary accounts. And I can do so when I need to <ahem>... take care of some private business...
  • wisecasperwisecasper Member Posts: 176 Arc User
    I built a ship without an engine, a green hull and blue stabiliser and it still flew further than another guy who had blue purple purple. I have so many characters that I spent one round doing this.
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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    They gave the KDF and Romulan faction the royal shaft and forced players of those factions to celebrate MONTANA -
    They in essence turned it another grind with a very very very limited window.

    Klingons & Romulans don't care about Montana and its Star Trek history.

    Bring back Day of Honor - I am grateful for free stuff, but doesn't have to be turned into a grindfest, especially when the holiday or celebration means nothing to both the Klingons and Romulans, Montana!? Really Cryptic?
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    hey I held my tongue on a gratuitous Obama post yesterday.

    Yeah, that one was uncalled for. Saw it too.
  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    So... how is it I can build a rocket with all purple parts, and lose to two rockets that have 2 purples and a blue part? Like if the winner is just gonna be random why bother with the part qualities at all?
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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    I stop playing, Boring event - they should have left first contact day the way it was - they just turned it into a time sink and a grindfest. And shafted the KDF and Romulan with visiting MONTANA - Klinks don't give two cents about a human celebration.

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  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    I must say, these short 4 times and done events are a great improvement over the 14 day ones.
  • reiklingraiderreiklingraider Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    What actually determines the rocket flight height. I had a blue engine, purple hull and purple stabilizer. My rocket flew a total of 19 feet. I barely flew higher than the afker. I like the spider attacks and the parts on fire, but if my rocket only flew 19 feet off of the ground and blew up then everyone on the launch pad should be a fried pile of goo. :)

    I get a little bit of lag on this map, any one else have lag?
  • alexvio1alexvio1 Member Posts: 389 Arc User
    I must say, these short 4 times and done events are a great improvement over the 14 day ones.
    Improvment? For 14 days you get 50000 dilithium and 750 marks per toon. I don't see that I will get 4/14 of that amount for 4 days. I see that I will get some junk and a space trait. If it was account unlock then I could accept this.
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