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fl219fl219 Member Posts: 211 Arc User
edited October 2016 in Federation Discussion
I now remember why I hate it so much. Decided to give it a go again. That was a mistake. Uncommanded menuvers. It tends to stop turning for no reason. Not because of a tractor beam. It will fly straight but that's it. Happened 2 times in a TF I did.
Anyone else have this problem? Also, I thought when you do a menuver (not on it's own, but when you tell it to), it makes you temporarly invulnerable?
It also felt like I was shooting blanks half the time. Weird seeing my Fleet T6 Tactical Escort has the same Boff layout and similar console layout. But blast through enemies with that ship.

Guess I will stick with my trusty Fleet T6 Tactical Escort!

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    captainkoltarcaptainkoltar Member Posts: 896 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    But I thought you loved your T5 Terran Sabre.
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    sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    Have you tried disabling or remapping the double tap to roll? The Pilot Maneuvers can be accidentally activated if you did not.

    The immunity to damage is questionable as we do not know how long it lasts. It more than likely has such a short duration that it would not be noticeable.

    As far as the ship stop turning, I don't know what to tell you other than I have had other ships suddenly stop responding to flight controls. I haven't be able to reproduce it and since it happens only in STFs, I just chalk it up to lag.
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    fl219fl219 Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    "But I thought you loved your T5 Sabre" I do, it's a fun little ship. I will switch back to it from time to time. Depending on how I feel. (do I want to use phaser beams or cannons on my escort) Certain ships look best with certain types of energy weapons. No beams on my Tac Escort. Thats just an insult to the Defiant! LOL!
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    Sounds like a lot of pilot error here.

    When you do your Pilot Maneuvers, you are invulnerable to damage. I use it all the time like the Crystalline Entity's AOE blast and timing it so I suffer no damage. It doesn't get you out of all CC however.
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    baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    pilot escorts are alright ... definately user error, and I don't mean that in a condescending way, it just means you should stick with another ship if that is more comfortable for you. Objectively pilot escorts are excellent substitutes for escorts and surpass them in almost any measurable way.
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    fl219fl219 Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    I can asure you it's not "user error" How can it be user error if you didn't tell it to do it, but it does it anyway? There are times when I do tell it to do the pilot menuver. (which it does). But I am 100% sure I wouldn't tell it to "jump backwards" when I am lining up for an attack! (bringing the front to line up weapons arcs)
    Also, there were times when my Pilot Ship (Mercury Class) would not turn until I did a pilot menuver. Then it would turn fine. I don't classify that as "user error" Not to say I haven't had my other escorts for no reason, stop turning. Just seem to experience it most in the pilot escort.

    As for "Pilot Escorts surpass Escorts in almost every way" (apparently my ship didn't get the memo LOL) My Fleet T6 Tactical Escort has no problem turning NPC's into space dust. Now my Mercury Class has the same Boff layout. And almost the same console layout. (do to the ships console layout) It seems I could "spit" at the NPC and do more damage.
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    eltecheltech Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    Check your keyboard? Keys might be getting stuck or full of cruft?​​
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    fl219fl219 Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    My keyboard keys are free and clear. I have tried diffrent keyboards. Same thing happens each time.
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    leoanimaleoanima Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    interesting - and no I've never had any problem with the specials on the pilot ships that I didn't create myself. I have had a problem like you're describing, but was on a laptop using a wireless keyboard & mouse (and that issue occurs with using the mouse when using it to control movement also - it will just drop out of direction control seemingly randomly and return to cursor).

    I honestly dislike flying anything other pilots at this point. The ships themselves take some getting used to - but the problem you're describing is not due to anything inherent with the ships themselves.
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    themadprofessor#9835 themadprofessor Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    Have you tried plugging the keyboard into a different USB port? If the one you're using is going bad, it could be sending mixed signals.
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    potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    I like the Fed Pilot Escorts, Icarus & Ajax specifically. Tactical Escort is my least favorite other than in terms of looks.

    I'd grab the Hestia, as I love the MVAE, but haven't gotten arround to it yet.
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    themadprofessor#9835 themadprofessor Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    potasssium wrote: »
    I like the Fed Pilot Escorts, Icarus & Ajax specifically. Tactical Escort is my least favorite other than in terms of looks.

    I'd grab the Hestia, as I love the MVAE, but haven't gotten arround to it yet.

    Hestia doesn't come with the MVAM module, so no ship splitting unless you already have the MVAM from the Prommie.
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    2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
    3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
    4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
    5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
    6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
    7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
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    galactickirigalactickiri Member Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Hate it? Oh hell, the Pilot Escorts are some of the best ships in the entire game, but if you're the type that prefers to tank it out in a cruiser or dreadnought, you might not fully appreciate them.

    Blistering damage that can get right in there, drop torpedoes and mines right on the target, and get the hell out fast when the return fire arrives. You should be invulnerable for the duration of a rock boost or roll, but having good timing helps.

    As for the potential flaw, yes, I've seen the turn stuck thing, and a quick evasive roll out seems to clear it. That's not pilot error, that's a real bug, and the team needs to get on that and fix it ASAP.

    The touchy control issue is sort of pilot error because it's so touchy. You can't just cruise along as you do in heavier hulls. These ships require subtle and precise control, because the double-tap to boost, retro or roll is very easy to trigger in the heat of combat. The alternative is to disable keyboard boosting, but then relying on the HUD switches slows your response time to find and click.

    I can't tell anyone else the correct way to fly these ships, but for me I have to use the keypad for quick maneuvers. I fly an Ajax and I'm doing things with this ship where a single second matters on whether I deliver my damage and then either get out clean, or end up with dangerous amounts of hull damage.
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