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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,415 Arc User
    rikwessels wrote: »
    you know what this theater does ( from a marketing perspective ) ? It makes me think twice about spending any $$ whatsoever - in the foreseeable future - on anything in the Z-store . I would think the exact same way if I did get the email and someone in my fleet didn't . It is bad marketing in the extreme ...


    You know, that was my first reaction too. But Cryptic doesn't give a sh*t; and, at the end of the day, I'll just be hurting myself not buying stuff I really wanted. And Cryptic knows that, of course. So, nothing left but to feel groggy for a while, and to commend Cryptic for playing the playerbase out against each other like this.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,415 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    questerius wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    The 10 spec points would have allowed me to finish up the tree on one of my characters. Better luck next time.


    The maturity of you people sickens me! LOL. :P Seriously, wish I could get over it as easily as you, but I have another month or so to work on that, when I'll be grinding spec points for my alt the old-fashioned, non-favored way.

    Best advice i can give you is not to "work" on it.
    Just play whatever you like and check once a week how many points you've gathered to distribute.

    Edit: And make use of the admiralty as much as possible.


    Yeah, I really need to get over this, cuz I realize I'm starting to hurt myself.

    XP Weekend has been good for me, though. Since the Grinding my teeth thread, of Jan 19, until now, Jan 24, I managed to get the entire Strategist tree done, and 3 of Intel. I only have like 10 cards on my Rom alt, but you'd be amazed what you can do with those still. :)

    Guess, when it comes down to it, I don't really need to be in the 'favored' club, after all.
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  • rikwesselsrikwessels Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    rikwessels wrote: »
    you know what this theater does ( from a marketing perspective ) ? It makes me think twice about spending any $$ whatsoever - in the foreseeable future - on anything in the Z-store . I would think the exact same way if I did get the email and someone in my fleet didn't . It is bad marketing in the extreme ...


    You know, that was my first reaction too. But Cryptic doesn't give a sh*t; and, at the end of the day, I'll just be hurting myself not buying stuff I really wanted. And Cryptic knows that, of course. So, nothing left but to feel groggy for a while, and to commend Cryptic for playing the playerbase out against each other like this.

    I have played a lot of MMO's and have never seen a worse "promotion "( ever ) . Sure, you have similar promotions in other MMO's but they always tell their players what criteria makes them eligible to receive the "prize " . Folks comparing this to the outfit don't understand either : the difference is everyone gets that outfit ,regardless of if you already own it .Next time I get an email from Cryptic asking me to spend $$ on something , I already know how fast that one will be thrown in the bin ( faster than you can say "oh, an email !" ) . And again: I'd feel the exact same way if I had received the email and others hadn't .
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    reyan01 wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Stupid question time...... I received the code; if I claim this on a currently sub-level 50 character do I get the insta level 50 to 60 XP boost token rather than the spec points?

    The token would be more useful to my currently low-levelled TOS character than the spec points would be to any of my already level 60 ones.

    Good question. I redeemed the code via the website and logged in a few hours later on a lvl 60 character. I do not have a "insta-60" option under promotions, but I have two "10 spec points" - I have no idea wether this is random or character specific.​​
    Neither do I, and am reluctant to claim until I know one way or the other. As I said, would rather have the XP token to use on a new character than the spec points to use on my existing ones.

    considering an xp token was never mentioned best bet is to assume it will not
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    Mm, actually got one this time. It's an interesting ship but I'm not sure it will get me out of my Vengeance. I'm not sure anything will get me out of that monster though lol. But I won't say no to the free adm card, trait, and wide angle torp. Thanks Cryptic!
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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    Ive got the code but after claim it, only got the 10 spec points.. Cryptic, keep insulting your player base please.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,532 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    seeing as they are doing the season 12 givaways event I am surprised this ship and the spec points weren't part of that promotion for everyone to claim but I am still grateful I got the email. :)
    reyan01 wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Stupid question time...... I received the code; if I claim this on a currently sub-level 50 character do I get the insta level 50 to 60 XP boost token rather than the spec points?

    The token would be more useful to my currently low-levelled TOS character than the spec points would be to any of my already level 60 ones.

    Good question. I redeemed the code via the website and logged in a few hours later on a lvl 60 character. I do not have a "insta-60" option under promotions, but I have two "10 spec points" - I have no idea wether this is random or character specific.​​
    Neither do I, and am reluctant to claim until I know one way or the other. As I said, would rather have the XP token to use on a new character than the spec points to use on my existing ones.

    considering an xp token was never mentioned best bet is to assume it will not

    True - but again, would be nice to know for sure.

    to the best of my knowledge they will be credited to the character for use when the spec tree becomes active and may even bump a lv50+ character to level 60 but whether or not this happens you can be sure the points will not be lost even on a character who is well below lv50.
    much similar to how you can claim a ship giveaway even if you only have a character who is not able to use the ship due to level but can then use the ship once the level requirement is met.

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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Ive got the code but after claim it, only got the 10 spec points.. Cryptic, keep insulting your player base please.

    Yes! Free stuff is insulting! :|

    When you get the promis of free stuff, you waste time and install the game again and you get TRIBBLE, yes, it is.. if mcdonals promiss a free burger, you drive to the place and u only get a coka, then yes, is an insult.



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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,415 Arc User
    rikwessels wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    rikwessels wrote: »
    you know what this theater does ( from a marketing perspective ) ? It makes me think twice about spending any $$ whatsoever - in the foreseeable future - on anything in the Z-store . I would think the exact same way if I did get the email and someone in my fleet didn't . It is bad marketing in the extreme ...


    You know, that was my first reaction too. But Cryptic doesn't give a sh*t; and, at the end of the day, I'll just be hurting myself not buying stuff I really wanted. And Cryptic knows that, of course. So, nothing left but to feel groggy for a while, and to commend Cryptic for playing the playerbase out against each other like this.

    I have played a lot of MMO's and have never seen a worse "promotion "( ever ) . Sure, you have similar promotions in other MMO's but they always tell their players what criteria makes them eligible to receive the "prize " . Folks comparing this to the outfit don't understand either : the difference is everyone gets that outfit ,regardless of if you already own it .Next time I get an email from Cryptic asking me to spend $$ on something , I already know how fast that one will be thrown in the bin ( faster than you can say "oh, an email !" ) . And again: I'd feel the exact same way if I had received the email and others hadn't .


    Yes, I don't think these types of promos are very good. It's simply not nice setting players up against each other like this: favoring just 'a happy few', based on no apparent criteria, breeds confusion, hostility (towards Cryptic, I haste to say: I don't harbor any ill-will towards those lucky enough to be chosen), and a general sense of unfairness.

    The problem is severely compounded, of course, by ppl telling you about their winnings (why, not just telling you, but basically 6 pages full of rubbing it in your face). I must admit I never really get that. I see threads like 'Ooo, I only used 1 key, and got a Bulwark!' Although I don't open lockboxes myself, I always fail to see what purpose is served by doing so, other than to gloat. Were that to happen to me, I'd just keep the fact to myself, and not feel the need to throw it in other people's faces. Of course, from their perspective, they likely just want to share the news of their good fortune.

    Anyway, didn't like the Gold-plated Ferengi promo either (even though I received one). Which, in many ways, was actually worse, as they had a more-or-less defined criterium there (being a 'loyal customer' -- which still could mean just about anything, including being picked out of a hat), but then left folks angry amongst each other for also being a loyal customer, and why didn't they get the ship then?! (And those feeling weren't jealousy, but simply entirely justified questions).

    So, tl;dr, yeah, this promo sucks.


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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,415 Arc User
    Ive got the code but after claim it, only got the 10 spec points.. Cryptic, keep insulting your player base please.


    You likely already have the ship on that toon, so you can't claim another one. I'll take your 10 spec points, though, if that helps un-insult the matter. :)
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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Ive got the code but after claim it, only got the 10 spec points.. Cryptic, keep insulting your player base please.


    You likely already have the ship on that toon, so you can't claim another one. I'll take your 10 spec points, though, if that helps un-insult the matter. :)

    I dont have the ship, it saids that I need 3000 zen to have it. And if I could, I give away thouse 10 spec points to the first person I see on the ESD..
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,928 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    (...)
    Anyway, didn't like the Gold-plated Ferengi promo either (even though I received one). Which, in many ways, was actually worse, as they had a more-or-less defined criterium there (being a 'loyal customer' -- which still could mean just about anything, including being picked out of a hat), but then left folks angry amongst each other for also being a loyal customer, and why didn't they get the ship then?! (And those feeling weren't jealousy, but simply entirely justified questions).

    So, tl;dr, yeah, this promo sucks.


    Ever thought about that the "loyal customer" part could simply be flufftext because, you know, Ferengi?

    Best bet is those giveaways are completely random. And you cannot be more "fair" than doing random draws. However, often people do not understand what "fair" means - to them it's winning=fair, not winning=unfair. That's why we can't have chance elements in games any more, or those games that have them receive a lot of flak for it.​​
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    @cerritourug From what I saw when my sister's code was redeemed, the free Archon is in the Promotion tab.

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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,415 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    (...)
    Anyway, didn't like the Gold-plated Ferengi promo either (even though I received one). Which, in many ways, was actually worse, as they had a more-or-less defined criterium there (being a 'loyal customer' -- which still could mean just about anything, including being picked out of a hat), but then left folks angry amongst each other for also being a loyal customer, and why didn't they get the ship then?! (And those feeling weren't jealousy, but simply entirely justified questions).

    So, tl;dr, yeah, this promo sucks.


    Ever thought about that the "loyal customer" part could simply be flufftext because, you know, Ferengi?

    Yes, in fact, I did think of that, when I said about loyal customers that it "... could mean just about anything, including being picked out of a hat." I'm 86% sure is was, indeed, just fluff text.
    Best bet is those giveaways are completely random. And you cannot be more "fair" than doing random draws. However, often people do not understand what "fair" means - to them it's winning=fair, not winning=unfair.

    Random draws don't necessarily make things super-fair: they can be seen as just as unfair, only with mathematical precision. :)
    That's why we can't have chance elements in games any more, or those games that have them receive a lot of flak for it.​​

    And rightly so. It's like if Cryptic were to decide, one day, that some ppl no longer get any perks with their new LTS, and others get everything. People wouldn't put up with that. People simply love equality -- and, consequently, being treated equally. I like it that way.
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  • rikwesselsrikwessels Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    (...)
    Anyway, didn't like the Gold-plated Ferengi promo either (even though I received one). Which, in many ways, was actually worse, as they had a more-or-less defined criterium there (being a 'loyal customer' -- which still could mean just about anything, including being picked out of a hat), but then left folks angry amongst each other for also being a loyal customer, and why didn't they get the ship then?! (And those feeling weren't jealousy, but simply entirely justified questions).

    So, tl;dr, yeah, this promo sucks.


    Ever thought about that the "loyal customer" part could simply be flufftext because, you know, Ferengi?

    Yes, in fact, I did think of that, when I said about loyal customers that it "... could mean just about anything, including being picked out of a hat." I'm 86% sure is was, indeed, just fluff text.
    Best bet is those giveaways are completely random. And you cannot be more "fair" than doing random draws. However, often people do not understand what "fair" means - to them it's winning=fair, not winning=unfair.

    Random draws don't necessarily make things super-fair: they can be seen as just as unfair, only with mathematical precision. :)
    That's why we can't have chance elements in games any more, or those games that have them receive a lot of flak for it.​​

    And rightly so. It's like if Cryptic were to decide, one day, that some ppl no longer get any perks with their new LTS, and others get everything. People wouldn't put up with that. People simply love equality -- and, consequently, being treated equally. I like it that way.

    It's also simply bad for business to p**s off a substantial part of the playerbase . When someone opens a lockbox and tells everyone in chat they got a ship ( or the system messages ) , that's an entirely different thing too. Those people chose to participate in the lockbox lottery . What is even worse is that no dev - or anyone else ,for that matter- explains the reasoning / criteria behind this .. it has folks wondering what it is all about and makes them even madder at Cryptic ,directly affecting the bottomline ...
  • knockedup#2486 knockedup Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Stupid question time...... I received the code; if I claim this on a currently sub-level 50 character do I get the insta level 50 to 60 XP boost token rather than the spec points?

    The token would be more useful to my currently low-levelled TOS character than the spec points would be to any of my already level 60 ones.

    Good question. I redeemed the code via the website and logged in a few hours later on a lvl 60 character. I do not have a "insta-60" option under promotions, but I have two "10 spec points" - I have no idea wether this is random or character specific.​​
    Neither do I, and am reluctant to claim until I know one way or the other. As I said, would rather have the XP token to use on a new character than the spec points to use on my existing ones.

    The description in the promotion-tab in the c-store says you can claim it on any toon but you can open it only with a lvl 50+ toon.
  • aliguanaaliguana Member Posts: 261 Arc User
    fantastic, my Feddie now has an actual Federation ship (as opposed to Breen. which is a nice ship, but...). My Rommy says thanks for the 10 spec points, trees now full :) My Klingon is sulking cos, yet again, they get nothing... *awww poor thing, I'll buy you a T6 B'rel one day, I promise*
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,732 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    Glad I found this thread. I got an email as well and I have been off the game since the Winter Event. Mostly due to video card crashing. Soon as I get me a new card I'm back in the game.

    Thank you.
    Now a LTS and loving it.

    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.

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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,415 Arc User
    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I've been keeping an eye on my email for a full day now; still nada. :)

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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 8,105 Community Moderator
    Redeem the Archon in the Promotion Tab on a Level 50+ character, that then unlocks it for all other eligible toons on your account.

    The XP/Spec token WILL NOT level a character below Level 50 to Level 60, only toons that are at least Level 50. Excess goes to Spec Points. Level 60 toons get 10 Spec Points. We learned this from another ragefit thread where a player incorrectly assumed he could do as much and made a new character for the express purpose of going from Level 1 to Level 60 without doing anything but use the token.

    Considering the plethora of differences between the self-reported players that received the email, including those that had already bought the ship, it seems apparent that they were randomly selected. Therefore, EVERYONE HAD AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY to have received this promotion. Random selection from the entire playerbase is the epitome of fair.

    Obviously, this promotion was meant to only go to a small number of players by design, as with past email promotions. The only FAIR way to do that would be to randomly select the receipients. At the point of selection, everyone had an equal shot at being selected. Just because, you, a specific person, did NOT get randomly selected, doesn't mean that the selection process is unfair. It just means, you weren't selected. If no one had mentioned anything about this promotion, you wouldn't know that you had "missed out" on anything. And in truth, you haven't missed out on anything, because the very same ship is available in the C-Store right now. Want it? Go get it. Oh, and the XP/Spec Points? Everyone has an equal opportunity at those, too. It's called, Play the Game!

    Think about the ships that have been given away to the entire playerbase in the past. They've been ships that have been around for awhile and/or not done well with sales in the C-Store. I'm sure we'll see one given away to everyone during the next week (although, I'm already anticipating the wailing of those who already bought it and demanding a refund, decry it not being their preferred Faction's ship, or any number of other self-entitled reasons). The T6 Intel Archon/Sovereign is a relatively new ship, which just recently had a Command Variant offered in another promotion. This ship is not going to given away for free to the entire playerbase anytime soon, if ever, considering its hero ship status. Not when its moneymaking potential is still there.

    Cryptic purposefully setting players against each other with promotions like this? Do you know how ridiculously machiavellian that sounds? You make it sound like some super-villain plot at world domination. Get over yourself. And each other. The sense of entitlement raging through these forums just hit Epic Gold.
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  • rikwesselsrikwessels Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    Redeem the Archon in the Promotion Tab on a Level 50+ character, that then unlocks it for all other eligible toons on your account.

    The XP/Spec token WILL NOT level a character below Level 50 to Level 60, only toons that are at least Level 50. Excess goes to Spec Points. Level 60 toons get 10 Spec Points. We learned this from another ragefit thread where a player incorrectly assumed he could do as much and made a new character for the express purpose of going from Level 1 to Level 60 without doing anything but use the token.

    Considering the plethora of differences between the self-reported players that received the email, including those that had already bought the ship, it seems apparent that they were randomly selected. Therefore, EVERYONE HAD AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY to have received this promotion. Random selection from the entire playerbase is the epitome of fair.

    Obviously, this promotion was meant to only go to a small number of players by design, as with past email promotions. The only FAIR way to do that would be to randomly select the receipients. At the point of selection, everyone had an equal shot at being selected. Just because, you, a specific person, did NOT get randomly selected, doesn't mean that the selection process is unfair. It just means, you weren't selected. If no one had mentioned anything about this promotion, you wouldn't know that you had "missed out" on anything. And in truth, you haven't missed out on anything, because the very same ship is available in the C-Store right now. Want it? Go get it. Oh, and the XP/Spec Points? Everyone has an equal opportunity at those, too. It's called, Play the Game!

    Think about the ships that have been given away to the entire playerbase in the past. They've been ships that have been around for awhile and/or not done well with sales in the C-Store. I'm sure we'll see one given away to everyone during the next week (although, I'm already anticipating the wailing of those who already bought it and demanding a refund, decry it not being their preferred Faction's ship, or any number of other self-entitled reasons). The T6 Intel Archon/Sovereign is a relatively new ship, which just recently had a Command Variant offered in another promotion. This ship is not going to given away for free to the entire playerbase anytime soon, if ever, considering its hero ship status. Not when its moneymaking potential is still there.

    Cryptic purposefully setting players against each other with promotions like this? Do you know how ridiculously machiavellian that sounds? You make it sound like some super-villain plot at world domination. Get over yourself. And each other. The sense of entitlement raging through these forums just hit Epic Gold.


    This entire post is BS . I'll tell you why : if I buy a lottery ticket and don't win anything I have no reason to moan about it , because by buying the lottery ticket I accept the rules of the lottery .If I buy a lockbox key and get zilch , you will not hear me complaining because - again - by opening that box with the key I accept the rules of that particular lottery . In this case I am
    - unaware I am participating in any sort of lottery
    - completely clueless on the rules thereof ( or lack of said rules )
  • apolloxl5apolloxl5 Member Posts: 3 New User
    I got the E-mail for the new T6 Sovereign (Archon), but I play on the PS4. So will I be able to get it when it appears on that version of the game (since I used the redeem code)?
  • rikwesselsrikwessels Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    @rikwessels

    Man you are comedy gold, you should try some open mike nights you'll probably kill.

    I highly doubt this constitutes as comedy . If all of this was "inconsequential " then how come this thread is already at 7 pages ( never mind threads on Reddit ) ?

  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    lan451 wrote: »
    Mm, actually got one this time. It's an interesting ship but I'm not sure it will get me out of my Vengeance. I'm not sure anything will get me out of that monster though lol. But I won't say no to the free adm card, trait, and wide angle torp. Thanks Cryptic!

    Know the feeling i got it finished mastery and put it in my mothball fleet, my vengeance is a much much better ship what really puts me off on the T6 sov , is the boff seating the intl uni seat is used up with a sci toon, beause there isnt a sci boff seat.
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