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  • stee1maxstee1max Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    Nobody has forcibly obliged you to either install Arc or play this game. If you havn't figured out yet, we used to boot up this game with an executable back before Arc was a thing. What is your problem? Remove the scamware out of your computer and enjoy headache-free experience.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    stee1max wrote: »
    Nobody has forcibly obliged you to either install Arc or play this game. If you havn't figured out yet, we used to boot up this game with an executable back before Arc was a thing. What is your problem? Remove the scamware out of your computer and enjoy headache-free experience.


    My 'thing' is that I just can't get passed how they can fubar their own tool like that, and not even test things. Drives me bonkers. :) Arc is their main overlay for all their games, for crying out-loud. But, their loss: it's gone.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    stee1max wrote: »
    Nobody has forcibly obliged you to either install Arc or play this game. If you havn't figured out yet, we used to boot up this game with an executable back before Arc was a thing. What is your problem? Remove the scamware out of your computer and enjoy headache-free experience.


    My 'thing' is that I just can't get passed how they can fubar their own tool like that, and not even test things. Drives me bonkers. :) Arc is their main overlay for all their games, for crying out-loud. But, their loss: it's gone.

    I agree, it's incredibly stupid to design it that way.

    I don't use Arc, but knowing about this massive design flaw just helps further ensure that I never will.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I don't use Arc, but knowing about this massive design flaw just helps further ensure that I never will.
    ^so much this
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    stee1max wrote: »
    Nobody has forcibly obliged you to either install Arc or play this game. If you havn't figured out yet, we used to boot up this game with an executable back before Arc was a thing. What is your problem? Remove the scamware out of your computer and enjoy headache-free experience.


    My 'thing' is that I just can't get passed how they can fubar their own tool like that, and not even test things. Drives me bonkers. :) Arc is their main overlay for all their games, for crying out-loud. But, their loss: it's gone.

    You won't regret it. I only ever had ARC installed for a total of about 5 minutes, long enough to login to all my characters at the time, unlock the Kahn costume, log back out, and uninstall it
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    stee1max wrote: »
    Nobody has forcibly obliged you to either install Arc or play this game. If you havn't figured out yet, we used to boot up this game with an executable back before Arc was a thing. What is your problem? Remove the scamware out of your computer and enjoy headache-free experience.


    My 'thing' is that I just can't get passed how they can fubar their own tool like that, and not even test things. Drives me bonkers. :) Arc is their main overlay for all their games, for crying out-loud. But, their loss: it's gone.

    You won't regret it. I only ever had ARC installed for a total of about 5 minutes, long enough to login to all my characters at the time, unlock the Kahn costume, log back out, and uninstall it


    Yeah. I had it installed once, because buying Zen thru STEAM proved unreliable. And, at that time, they had removed the Charge button from the website. But I see it's back again.
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  • kyle223catkyle223cat Member Posts: 584 Arc User
    I didn't realize this was the "attack meimeitoo" thread. I thought it was the "arc application is glitchy" thread. I must be mistaken. :D
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    kyle223cat wrote: »
    I didn't realize this was the "attack meimeitoo" thread. I thought it was the "arc application is glitchy" thread. I must be mistaken. :D
    Is it glitchy? or is meimei doing it wrong? :p

    I personally use ARC mainly for the daily quests for free zen.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    kyle223cat wrote: »
    I didn't realize this was the "attack meimeitoo" thread. I thought it was the "arc application is glitchy" thread. I must be mistaken. :D
    Is it glitchy? or is meimei doing it wrong? :p

    I personally use ARC mainly for the daily quests for free zen.


    No, it's glitchy. :) And I dumped it. After half an hour trying to undo the SHIFT nonsense, I just had enough.
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  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,534 Arc User
    I load Arc, run my arc missions for the free Zen, close arc completely, then load the direct STO launcher... Having to type my password is a VERY small sacrifice...

    ;)
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,596 Community Moderator
    I only keep ARC for promo codes these days. Run STO through Steam.
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  • kyle223catkyle223cat Member Posts: 584 Arc User
    I still use the stand alone launcher, no steam or arc.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    redvenge wrote: »
    Well, when I first saw this thread, this is not what I expected.

    With all the new content (including yet another space battleground) and Geko saying "PvP is a top priority" in a recent podcast... I figured this thread would be pretty much anything but this.


    Psst, Dstahl had already been dangling that 'PvP is going to get our attention' carrot in front of us, long, long before Geko was ever here.

    Geko and DStahl are contemporaries, both being on the dev team at Cryptic for STO from the get go.
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    crm14916 wrote: »
    I load Arc, run my arc missions for the free Zen, close arc completely, then load the direct STO launcher... Having to type my password is a VERY small sacrifice...

    ;)
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    so... do the logical thing, and stop using ARC

    That requires me to constantly type in my password (Arc logs me in automagically). But it may have to come to that, yes.

    I set everything I need a password for to make me type it in every time on PC.

    I realize it's the smartphone generation, but it's more secure that way.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    so... do the logical thing, and stop using ARC

    That requires me to constantly type in my password (Arc logs me in automagically). But it may have to come to that, yes.

    I set everything I need a password for to make me type it in every time on PC.

    I realize it's the smartphone generation, but it's more secure that way.

    but the internet is such a safe place, why would you need security?? /sarcasm
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    stee1max wrote: »
    Nobody has forcibly obliged you to either install Arc or play this game. If you havn't figured out yet, we used to boot up this game with an executable back before Arc was a thing. What is your problem? Remove the scamware out of your computer and enjoy headache-free experience.

    Cryptic/PWE is if you want to claim things like the Khan outfit initially. You have to have ARC installed to do initial claims for prizes like that. That being said normally you don't have to use Arc.

    The funny thing about Cryptic/PWE games is you can do the following:

    * Launch the game itself and use a direct login screen to get in.
    * Use a games launcher to login to the game and load up the game itself. (2 launchers)
    * Use ARC to log in and hit the game launcher to click play to get to the game itself. (3 launchers)

    YO! We at Cryptic/PWE hear you like launchers! So we put a launcher in the launcher in the launcher and called it Arc!

    They meme'd us in a convoluted launcher way.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    Oh yeah, found that overlay...so that's why STO has been so much slower nowadays with Arc than directly started. Maybe the overlay doesn't like the now-required dx11 or something. I really wish I could turn it off.

    I didn't have any problems with the hotkeys, though. Mine is set to shift-tab and it didn't come up with anything else.
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    I posted this work around in an older thread , cant remember which one but here it is

    When the overlay pops up? go into its options and turn off everything then click it off , you should be good to go from there on out.
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I only keep ARC for promo codes these days. Run STO through Steam.
    Youm don't even need Arc for Promo Codes as there is a page on the STO website where you can enter codes.

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  • admrhackettadmrhackett Member Posts: 3 New User
    Thank god we don't have this problem on console!
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    Only time I had any issues running ARC was when it first launched. Have had zero problems with it and use it all teh time to launch my games. I don't know what this shift nonsense is I just have the arc Icon in my tray and one click I'm in and then just select the game I wish to play and then click play. Bing bang boom easy as pie. I have run it on 4 different systems to date no drama.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Seriously, starting up the game, and now, WTF?!, they bound the SHIFT key to the Arc overlay. No, not just SHIFT-S, but SHIFT altogether! I can't even sprint this way! Heck, I can't even type *I* this way. What brainiac thought of this brilliant idea!?!

    Either that, or my Arc is broken.

    EDIT: And I seem to be always running too, without the option to revert that.

    P.S. Fixed the topic.

    Sorry, but I know you've played the game long enough to know you can use the .exe to launch it without Arc or Steam.

  • jaredza#2872 jaredza Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    I only have Arc because I wanted the Khan set, and then I saw the missions thing for free Zen. Pretty much I open it, do the free Zen missions, then play through Steam.
  • joe3871joe3871 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    I just started having as well. anyone have a fix?
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    Necro much?!

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  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    edited August 2017
    Could be necro-er, at least it's from this year.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
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