[PC] Designing the Tzenkethi Starships

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The Tzenkethi are a distinctive new enemy for Star Trek Online on PC. Find out how their starships were designed by the people that designed them.

Full details here:
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10341023-designing-the-tzenkethi-starships
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  • thay8472
    thay8472 Member Posts: 5,966 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    I smell a Tzenkethi Lockbox coming.

    I like the dreadnought design.
  • mustrumridcully0
    mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,958 Arc User
    The Hammerhead design is awesome.
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    I am a bit mixed about the Battleship - Kinda wish front and back were reserved, because that would like one sleak mother...ship . The other way around, it's just a beast. ;)
    But it has a nice back.
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  • dariustural
    dariustural Member Posts: 87 Arc User
    The ground race models are unlike the race in the novels. Not looking forward to the story line arc, battle ques, or equipment grinds. Personally, I am tired of the constant pew pew pew.
  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,511 Arc User
    Sounds like using Gravity well on them isn't a great idea
  • seannewboy
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    I like the new ship styles.
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  • captaind3
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    They're beautiful and I concur with Mustumridcully, that Hammerhead Dreadnaught is out of this world awesome.

    I initially thought from the first picture that the Battleship was reversed, but I know why they didn't as not only would it look like a Star Destroyer it would also look like a Voth ship. On the other hand it still reminds me of Ruafo's So'na command ship.

    Love the lighting choices too. Overall while the Tzenkethi look like Shokan, their ships look like fish. Which makes them look super Star Trek, outstanding job. I could easily see that Dreadnought having a face to face stand off with the Enterprise-D.

    I'm curious how the inevitable Tzenkethi skin is gonna look on my ship.
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  • psycoticvulcan
    psycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    Interesting... do the Tzenkethi not use frigates and cruisers?

    I kind of like the idea of the battleships and dreadnoughts launching huge waves of drone fighters against us. Would be a neat departure from what we've seen before.

    And I concur with the above posters, the Hammerhead is awesome. The battleship looks cool too, kind of what I would have preferred for the Xindi-Reptilians. Looking forward to seeing them in action.
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  • nikolunus
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    I hope they don't put these in Lock Boxes, they are great looking ships and would be nice not have an enemy ships that we dont have the chance to fly.
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  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,769 Arc User
    thay8472 wrote: »
    I smell a Tzenkethi Lockbox coming.

    I like the dreadnought design.

    Going by the capabilities they describe in the blog, I wonder if one of the inevitable lockbox ships will have 6 fore and 2 aft weapons, with paper shields on the forward arc
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  • shadowfirefly00
    shadowfirefly00 Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    Again, articles like this which delve into the thought process behind a thing (well, things) are always welcome.

    To sum up: the Tzenkethi ships would be among the more agile examples of their classes, make extensive use of traits akin to Wing Man, and use analogues to the PEP torp whose clouds have the added effect of conferring benefits to allied ships (speculation: shield regen and hardness; resistances; hull regen)... it would not be unreasonable to believe this applies to their version of warp plasma ejection as well. I imagine that they will be making more extensive use of (drone) strikecraft than other forces encountered to date.

    It will be interesting to see what other tricks they have up their proverbial sleeves.
    captaind3 wrote: »
    I'm curious how the inevitable Tzenkethi skin is gonna look on my ship.
    Agreed; that pattern would be quite interesting to see on other ships. Sort of related: why isn't there a 'spook' vanity item we can buy for the shield-visual slot that gives Federation ships, for example, the pattern usually associated with their intel ships...?
  • calexisrex
    calexisrex Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    Strike two!!! Once again, artists not reading books as source material for the Tzenkethi: ship descriptions are provided in several of the Typhon Pact novels (and descriptions of the Tzenkethi themselves!) What gives?!
  • mustrumridcully0
    mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,958 Arc User
    calexisrex wrote: »
    Strike two!!! Once again, artists not reading books as source material for the Tzenkethi: ship descriptions are provided in several of the Typhon Pact novels (and descriptions of the Tzenkethi themselves!) What gives?!
    Why would the need to feel beholden to some obscure novels, and particularly why would you expect them to ignore the physical description of such a novel for the species but then adhere to the physical description of the species' ship?
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  • ash352
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    nikolunus wrote: »
    I hope they don't put these in Lock Boxes, they are great looking ships and would be nice not have an enemy ships that we dont have the chance to fly.

    When have ships like this not been put into a lockbox? Yeah it'd be nice to have them in the C-store but what do you think will actually happen?
  • angrybobh
    angrybobh Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    "We believe that the Star Trek Online community of captains will show adaptability and cleverness that even the Tzenkethi will not be ready for."

    So, FAW? I'm sure whatever they got can be FAW'd down.

    They are all nice looking ships. The battleship is nearly exactly what I pictured they would fly after seeing the blog on the ground units.
  • toiva
    toiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    Kind of like a combination of Nausicaan and Orion designs.

    The hammerhead is nice, but it appears to have less texture details than the battleship. Hopefully that's just an appearance issue due to the size difference.
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    And I thought it was bad enough when my Romulan's scimitar wing gets caught on another scimitar's wing over New Romulus. Dear god the congestion in space when people start flying these ships is going to be massive.
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  • dariustural
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    calexisrex wrote: »
    Strike two!!! Once again, artists not reading books as source material for the Tzenkethi: ship descriptions are provided in several of the Typhon Pact novels (and descriptions of the Tzenkethi themselves!) What gives?!
    Why would the need to feel beholden to some obscure novels, and particularly why would you expect them to ignore the physical description of such a novel for the species but then adhere to the physical description of the species' ship?

    I would guess the Typhon Pact novels were deemed "non-canonical" by the devs and decided to use their own "cannon" interpretation of the Tzenkethi for this story arc. It is what it is, and we are once again forced to accept it. Nice modeling, but it was probably picked as it was going to require less coding and skinning than what the novel's renditions would have required. In fact, why even need to be beholden to the game name Star Trek Online, if they are going to change race descriptions on the fly?
  • stobg2015
    stobg2015 Member Posts: 800 Arc User
    I like them. The ships look a whole lot better than the aliens themselves do.

    And Cryptic's storyline departed from the Typhon Pact material a long time ago.
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  • psycoticvulcan
    psycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    Guys, can we please not re-hash the game-Tzenkethi versus novel-Tzenkethi argument? There's enough of that in the other thread. Let's keep this one about the ships. :)
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  • tousseau
    tousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    As I had commented on Facebook...

    That dread... *swoons*

    I must have.
  • angarus1
    angarus1 Member Posts: 683 Arc User
    I like these ships, they're exciting.
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Sounds like using Gravity well on them isn't a great idea

    That was my first thought as well. :p
  • potasssium
    potasssium Member Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    Inverted TBR will be a bad tactic as well.

    But damn one of my KDF Space Pirares needs some new command ships, I love them both, but especially that dread.

    Lockbox when.
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  • jaturnley
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    potasssium wrote: »
    Inverted TBR will be a bad tactic as well.

    But damn one of my KDF Space Pirares needs some new command ships, I love them both, but especially that dread.

    Lockbox when.

    Probably the one after the next one, which is due with the Anniversary update. They have to get the FEs with these ships out before they can do a lockbox.
  • potasssium
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    If they have lance weapons, hope they are compatible with the trait from the Yamato/Kolasi/Haakona.

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  • captaind3
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    reyan01 wrote: »
    Sounds like using Gravity well on them isn't a great idea

    Tyken's Rift it is.
    nikolunus wrote: »
    I hope they don't put these in Lock Boxes, they are great looking ships and would be nice not have an enemy ships that we dont have the chance to fly.

    If they have Lockboxes I want a storyline where they go after the Lobi Crystal Consortium for stealing their stuff.
    Again, articles like this which delve into the thought process behind a thing (well, things) are always welcome.

    To sum up: the Tzenkethi ships would be among the more agile examples of their classes, make extensive use of traits akin to Wing Man, and use analogues to the PEP torp whose clouds have the added effect of conferring benefits to allied ships (speculation: shield regen and hardness; resistances; hull regen)... it would not be unreasonable to believe this applies to their version of warp plasma ejection as well. I imagine that they will be making more extensive use of (drone) strikecraft than other forces encountered to date.

    It will be interesting to see what other tricks they have up their proverbial sleeves.
    captaind3 wrote: »
    I'm curious how the inevitable Tzenkethi skin is gonna look on my ship.
    Agreed; that pattern would be quite interesting to see on other ships. Sort of related: why isn't there a 'spook' vanity item we can buy for the shield-visual slot that gives Federation ships, for example, the pattern usually associated with their intel ships...?

    Oh that would be nice...actually too nice. Because that's what my Assault Cruiser would look like.

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  • lordsteve1
    lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    That hammerhead dreadnought.....drool!

    That is an impressive design and properly alien looking which nice for a change.
    Be nice for them to have some fancy tricks up their sleeves and I'm speaking as a scibship pilot who relies heavily on aoe attacks. I'd just love something a bit more challenging, maybe not so many Zerg rushes of npcs so we dont have to resort to aoe in the first place?
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  • chozoelder2nd
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    Those are pretty slick designs. I especially like the fore and side views of the battleship.
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  • jordonbrooker#3879
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    I am a bit mixed about the Battleship - Kinda wish front and back were reserved, because that would like one sleak mother...ship . The other way around, it's just a beast. ;)

    Thanks for pointing that one out and I agree with you, I prefer myself a pointy-forward ship.

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