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roebotsixtyfiveroebotsixtyfive Member Posts: 286 Arc User
Ever since about 22:00-23:00 (GMT) last night, I have been totally unable to play STO. If by some miracle I can actually load a character in, a few seconds later, the Server stops responding (Red SNR Text with a timer at the top of the screen) and I am either thrown back to the login screen, or given an endless SNR, or given a few seconds of actual time before another SNR hits.

My last resort was a full reinstall, but that failed, as the launcher wouldn't even patch. So I've gone onto last resort Plan B, which is restoring my STO system files to the state they were in last week. Although since it's SNR, I doubt this will do anything.

If I miss many more days, I will miss out on the Crystalline Entity event rewards.

I would also like to know if this is A: A Local issue, B: A National (Britain) issue, C: A Continental Issue (Europe) or D; An International Issue (Worldwide).
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If you can't solve it logically, solve it like a moron.

51 + 1 Foundry Character Slots is NOT enough. Some of us love our characters. If I want to buy more character slots, why can't I? I couldn't experience the entire Delta Recruitment event without deleting a character.

The Iconians themselves can't time travel because their memories revert, but there is nothing to say an Iconian couldn't write everything she needed to do on a PADD, pin it to herself, travel back, read the PADD, do the tasks and return. Or just get one of her Non-Herald underlings to go back in time for her.

Want a Star Trek themed starship command fan-made Board Game that isn't fiendishly complicated but not so easy it's a joke? Download mine for free here. https://roebot56.deviantart.com/art/BOARD-GAME-R56-s-Starship-Command-STAR-TREK-Edn-682732468 A Stargate version of the game is available from a link in the description.

Oh yeah, I do Foundry missions for both KDFs and Feds. Just search KSTF (Short for Kinas Special Task Force, where Kinas is the name of the Admiral you will be serving under). The earlier ones are less story based and more combat based, while the later ones have a much heavier story element, but keep the large battles.

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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    Run a traceroute and you'll see where the issue is.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • roebotsixtyfiveroebotsixtyfive Member Posts: 286 Arc User
    Run a traceroute and you'll see where the issue is.

    Details please.
    sto_forum_sig_gif_by_roebot56-d9as2al.gif
    If you can't solve it logically, solve it like a moron.

    51 + 1 Foundry Character Slots is NOT enough. Some of us love our characters. If I want to buy more character slots, why can't I? I couldn't experience the entire Delta Recruitment event without deleting a character.

    The Iconians themselves can't time travel because their memories revert, but there is nothing to say an Iconian couldn't write everything she needed to do on a PADD, pin it to herself, travel back, read the PADD, do the tasks and return. Or just get one of her Non-Herald underlings to go back in time for her.

    Want a Star Trek themed starship command fan-made Board Game that isn't fiendishly complicated but not so easy it's a joke? Download mine for free here. https://roebot56.deviantart.com/art/BOARD-GAME-R56-s-Starship-Command-STAR-TREK-Edn-682732468 A Stargate version of the game is available from a link in the description.

    Oh yeah, I do Foundry missions for both KDFs and Feds. Just search KSTF (Short for Kinas Special Task Force, where Kinas is the name of the Admiral you will be serving under). The earlier ones are less story based and more combat based, while the later ones have a much heavier story element, but keep the large battles.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • roebotsixtyfiveroebotsixtyfive Member Posts: 286 Arc User

    Thanks. Done it, means absolutely nothing to me. Will wait to see if Plan B (which is currently redownloading thursday's patch) works before sending it.
    sto_forum_sig_gif_by_roebot56-d9as2al.gif
    If you can't solve it logically, solve it like a moron.

    51 + 1 Foundry Character Slots is NOT enough. Some of us love our characters. If I want to buy more character slots, why can't I? I couldn't experience the entire Delta Recruitment event without deleting a character.

    The Iconians themselves can't time travel because their memories revert, but there is nothing to say an Iconian couldn't write everything she needed to do on a PADD, pin it to herself, travel back, read the PADD, do the tasks and return. Or just get one of her Non-Herald underlings to go back in time for her.

    Want a Star Trek themed starship command fan-made Board Game that isn't fiendishly complicated but not so easy it's a joke? Download mine for free here. https://roebot56.deviantart.com/art/BOARD-GAME-R56-s-Starship-Command-STAR-TREK-Edn-682732468 A Stargate version of the game is available from a link in the description.

    Oh yeah, I do Foundry missions for both KDFs and Feds. Just search KSTF (Short for Kinas Special Task Force, where Kinas is the name of the Admiral you will be serving under). The earlier ones are less story based and more combat based, while the later ones have a much heavier story element, but keep the large battles.
  • darbalest121darbalest121 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    Same problem. I don't think it's an individual problem.
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  • zaichalzaichal Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    A tracert would be useful.

    If you've ran one, does it mention cognetco at all?

    Cos I'm having the same connection issues and when my connection is re-routed from virgin media to cognetco, then onto Cryptic, cognetco throws it's toys outta the pram.
  • roebotsixtyfiveroebotsixtyfive Member Posts: 286 Arc User
    zaichal wrote: »
    A tracert would be useful.

    If you've ran one, does it mention cognetco at all?

    Cos I'm having the same connection issues and when my connection is re-routed from virgin media to cognetco, then onto Cryptic, cognetco throws it's toys outta the pram.

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms routerlogin.net [192.168.0.1]
    2 * * * Request timed out.
    3 10 ms 12 ms 12 ms brhm-core-2a-xe-834-0.network.virginmedia.net [2
    13.105.114.209]
    4 * * * Request timed out.
    5 20 ms 15 ms 33 ms nrth-bb-1c-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254
    .42.134]
    6 14 ms 15 ms 16 ms ae0.lon11.ip4.gtt.net [77.67.65.157]
    7 14 ms 21 ms 19 ms be3008.ccr21.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1
    5.21]
    8 17 ms 18 ms 15 ms be2871.ccr42.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58
    .185]
    9 82 ms 95 ms 82 ms be2983.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.1.
    178]
    10 84 ms 85 ms 82 ms te0-0-0-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.c
    om [154.54.46.130]
    11 84 ms 85 ms 89 ms 38.111.40.114
    12 91 ms * 84 ms 198.49.243.253
    13 * * * Request timed out.
    14 86 ms 92 ms 85 ms xboxpatchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.4
    1]

    Trace complete.

    That's my tracert. If it means something to someone, then we may identify this issue.

    Hopefully, whatever is causing it will be fixed shortly.
    sto_forum_sig_gif_by_roebot56-d9as2al.gif
    If you can't solve it logically, solve it like a moron.

    51 + 1 Foundry Character Slots is NOT enough. Some of us love our characters. If I want to buy more character slots, why can't I? I couldn't experience the entire Delta Recruitment event without deleting a character.

    The Iconians themselves can't time travel because their memories revert, but there is nothing to say an Iconian couldn't write everything she needed to do on a PADD, pin it to herself, travel back, read the PADD, do the tasks and return. Or just get one of her Non-Herald underlings to go back in time for her.

    Want a Star Trek themed starship command fan-made Board Game that isn't fiendishly complicated but not so easy it's a joke? Download mine for free here. https://roebot56.deviantart.com/art/BOARD-GAME-R56-s-Starship-Command-STAR-TREK-Edn-682732468 A Stargate version of the game is available from a link in the description.

    Oh yeah, I do Foundry missions for both KDFs and Feds. Just search KSTF (Short for Kinas Special Task Force, where Kinas is the name of the Admiral you will be serving under). The earlier ones are less story based and more combat based, while the later ones have a much heavier story element, but keep the large battles.
  • zaichalzaichal Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    10 84 ms 85 ms 82 ms te0-0-0-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.c
    om [154.54.46.130]
    You have the exact problem I have.

    atlas.cognetco.com is the culprit.

    Unfortunately, there's little that can be done about it.

    I got a surprisingly quick response from Cryptic earlier, where they confirmed what I already suspected - that it's an issue with the isp to isp connections from us to cryptic being re-routed through cognetco. Neither us players or tech support at Cryptic's end have any say over how an isp handles their traffic and the only thing they and we can do is contact our respective ISPs. I've already contacted my ISP over the issue, since not being able to play MMOs over the weekend when there's nothing else going on is rather irritating. Still, Cryptic are aware of the issue.

    I'd suggest doing what I've done - open a ticket with support and copy/paste a tracert into notepad and upload that in your ticket. The more tracerts, the better chance they'll have at successfully raising the issue with their own isp, maybe.
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  • skullblits#4627 skullblits Member Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    doesn't help console players I've the same problem. I'm totally screwed
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  • spiritwalker1969spiritwalker1969 Member Posts: 406 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Actually for once, it ain't cogent. Virgin media is the issue this time around. Basically all you can do is wait and hope it works itself out. Don't worrk you have an extra week to get the rewards...so you have 5 days left unless you started late...in which case...well your fault. Also the prize is **** this time around anyways.

    According to what I have gotten from VM the issue should be cleared by around 16:00 Monday ... so give it a few days and everything should be back to normal. This does however highlight exactly what many posters on here advise when connection issues occur, that 95% of the time it is not anything to do with Cryptic but is an issue somewhere between the player and the server usually connected with network infrastructure and it is just a case of waiting for an engineer to remedy the issue. In this case it appears to be a transatlantic connection issue, so whilst Virgin Media users are affected the issue isn't actually with the Virgin infrastructure but between the virgin network and the transatlantic node used by VM traffic.

    It is a PITA but keep the faith guys and we will get there .... just a case of trying to fit in event runs when you can, I am finding that relaunching the game to change character helps.

  • skullblits#4627 skullblits Member Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    how can you check? I go onto there service status site. and it says it's being rebuilt or somerhing
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  • shadowwraith#9264 shadowwraith Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Actually for once, it ain't cogent. Virgin media is the issue this time around. Basically all you can do is wait and hope it works itself out. Don't worrk you have an extra week to get the rewards...so you have 5 days left unless you started late...in which case...well your fault. Also the prize is **** this time around anyways.

    Nope:

    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms routerlogin.net
    2 11 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.7.164.1
    3 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms wolv-core-2a-xe-300-0.network.virginmedia.net [80.3.145.117]
    4 * * * Request timed out.
    5 20 ms 40 ms 29 ms manc-bb-1d-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254.42.246]
    6 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms ae0.man11.ip4.gtt.net [77.67.65.141]
    7 15 ms 17 ms 20 ms xe-2-1-2.lon11.ip4.gtt.net [89.149.183.181]
    8 17 ms 15 ms 16 ms be3008.ccr21.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.15.21]
    9 18 ms 21 ms 22 ms be2871.ccr42.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.185]
    10 83 ms 87 ms 82 ms be2983.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.1.178]
    11 87 ms 85 ms 83 ms te0-0-0-0.rcr11.b002133-1.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.130]
    12 83 ms 84 ms 87 ms 38.111.40.114
    13 93 ms 91 ms 92 ms 198.49.243.253
    14 * * * Request timed out.
    15 82 ms 83 ms 81 ms patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

    Trace complete.

    C:\WINDOWS\System32>

    Without wanting to contradict you, no it isn't VM, if it was timing out at that piece of VM's infrastructure the traceroute wouldn't complete. What your seeing is something which is discarding ICMP requests

    The only issue on there lies with Cogentco, the latency is ramping at their infrastructure. But its still being transmitted on to Cryptic.

    And, as an addendum to that, we have folks from the EU and the US experiencing the same issues as us, they are not on Virgin Media :)

    Use the EU Gameplay proxy in the launcher options, this is a different routing and works fine, whether on VM or not. Been using it all evening, not a single SNR, in fact I may just keep it set like that because it's even faster than normal.

    console players don't have that option though.
    • Draal - FED, Saurian, LV60 - TAC
    • Mirak - FED 23c, Vulkan, LV60 - TAC
    • Ascaran Bloodclaw - KDF, Gorn, Lv18 - TAC
    • Melchiah - KDF, Gorn, LV60 - TAC
    • Ne'roon - KDF,Lethian, L60, TAC
    • Turel - ROM-KDF, Reman, 30, TAC
    • Elric - ROM-Fed, Romulan, L60, TAC
    • Richtor Belmont - FED 23c, Human,LV20, SCI
    • G'Kar - KDF, Gorn, L10

    USS Sharlin NCC79713 B (part of sheridans access code) - T6, Hestia Class Advanced Escort
    USS Babylon IV - T6 Krenim Science Vessel
    USS Brakiri - T6 Elachi Escort
    270?cb=20061004071055
    "I am Grey. I stand between the candle and the star."
    "We are Grey. We stand between the darkness and the light."

    – Grey Council greeting
  • roebotsixtyfiveroebotsixtyfive Member Posts: 286 Arc User
    Console doesn't get proxy change? Seems about right, consoles seemed to be screwed when it comes to manual fixing/bypassing bugs.

    Also, if EU gameplay proxy doesn't work, try USA gameplay proxy.
    sto_forum_sig_gif_by_roebot56-d9as2al.gif
    If you can't solve it logically, solve it like a moron.

    51 + 1 Foundry Character Slots is NOT enough. Some of us love our characters. If I want to buy more character slots, why can't I? I couldn't experience the entire Delta Recruitment event without deleting a character.

    The Iconians themselves can't time travel because their memories revert, but there is nothing to say an Iconian couldn't write everything she needed to do on a PADD, pin it to herself, travel back, read the PADD, do the tasks and return. Or just get one of her Non-Herald underlings to go back in time for her.

    Want a Star Trek themed starship command fan-made Board Game that isn't fiendishly complicated but not so easy it's a joke? Download mine for free here. https://roebot56.deviantart.com/art/BOARD-GAME-R56-s-Starship-Command-STAR-TREK-Edn-682732468 A Stargate version of the game is available from a link in the description.

    Oh yeah, I do Foundry missions for both KDFs and Feds. Just search KSTF (Short for Kinas Special Task Force, where Kinas is the name of the Admiral you will be serving under). The earlier ones are less story based and more combat based, while the later ones have a much heavier story element, but keep the large battles.
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  • bejaymacbejaymac Member Posts: 448 Arc User
    @ roebotsixtyfive looking at your trace I can see a couple of issues.

    Let's get those three time outs out of the way first of all, most probably think that something nasty has happened and to be worried about it, but odds are those servers have simply been set not to reply to trace requests.

    Hop 5 is of concern, all three packets return vastly different pings for the short distance they have travelled, that points to an issue at that hub.

    Everything else looks fine until we hit hop 12, packet 2 got lost so something isn't quite right there, now thing is that's Cryptic's own server on the west coast, so this is one time when you could blame them.


    @ mattjohnsonva after looking at your trace only hop 5 catches my attention, yet another Virgin hub giving three vastly different pings.
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  • shadowwraith#9264 shadowwraith Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Actually for once, it ain't cogent. Virgin media is the issue this time around. Basically all you can do is wait and hope it works itself out. Don't worrk you have an extra week to get the rewards...so you have 5 days left unless you started late...in which case...well your fault. Also the prize is **** this time around anyways.

    According to what I have gotten from VM the issue should be cleared by around 16:00 Monday ... so give it a few days and everything should be back to normal. This does however highlight exactly what many posters on here advise when connection issues occur, that 95% of the time it is not anything to do with Cryptic but is an issue somewhere between the player and the server usually connected with network infrastructure and it is just a case of waiting for an engineer to remedy the issue. In this case it appears to be a transatlantic connection issue, so whilst Virgin Media users are affected the issue isn't actually with the Virgin infrastructure but between the virgin network and the transatlantic node used by VM traffic.

    It is a PITA but keep the faith guys and we will get there .... just a case of trying to fit in event runs when you can, I am finding that relaunching the game to change character helps.

    you could be on to something here, ESO and warframe both are running fine atm but STO and neverwinter are currently effected by SNR's/disconnects and rubberbanding.

    • Draal - FED, Saurian, LV60 - TAC
    • Mirak - FED 23c, Vulkan, LV60 - TAC
    • Ascaran Bloodclaw - KDF, Gorn, Lv18 - TAC
    • Melchiah - KDF, Gorn, LV60 - TAC
    • Ne'roon - KDF,Lethian, L60, TAC
    • Turel - ROM-KDF, Reman, 30, TAC
    • Elric - ROM-Fed, Romulan, L60, TAC
    • Richtor Belmont - FED 23c, Human,LV20, SCI
    • G'Kar - KDF, Gorn, L10

    USS Sharlin NCC79713 B (part of sheridans access code) - T6, Hestia Class Advanced Escort
    USS Babylon IV - T6 Krenim Science Vessel
    USS Brakiri - T6 Elachi Escort
    270?cb=20061004071055
    "I am Grey. I stand between the candle and the star."
    "We are Grey. We stand between the darkness and the light."

    – Grey Council greeting
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