I'm going to have to pick both battles from the Wrath of Khan, they felt more tactical in nature.
In terms of how the scenes were paced, it was perfect and executed with precision.
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
It still makes me tear up a little whenever I watch it, and was a pretty good depiction of how even a tiny ship (and her captain) can make the ultimate sacrifice to save lives.
Honestly, I'm tempted to go with the Battle of New York City just because of how absurd the whole situation got towards the end.
For more conventional battles, I'd go with the Battle of the Omarion Nebula in "The Die is Cast". Even though we didn't see a lot of the actual fighting, seeing a Romulan warbird fighting to the death from the inside was something we hadn't seen before, and they did a great job conveying the scope of the fleet battle outside.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Good choices, the guys who said Nemesis and ST '09. Whatever their other flaws, those two, along with the big knock-down-drag-out melee in "Sacrifice of Angels", are really the only battles in the franchise that really grok the concept of 3-D space, that starships don't behave like naval vessels and that attacks can come from any direction.
TWOK came close but Kirk still felt the need to "resurface" to the same "altitude" as Khan before opening fire instead of just hitting him from underneath. In contrast, Nemesis had Enterprise doing barrel rolls to protect damaged shields and otherwise all four ships were crisscrossing each other at wild angles, firing all the while, and there's an awesome shot in '09 of Enterprise exiting the debris field upside-down relative to Narada.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Azati Prime was another good one. We've seen the hero ships get blasted to hell before, but we've never seen them stay that way for the rest of the season.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Archer vs Duras round two in the expanse barrier is another excellent one. It showed space was 3D when Enterprise made that L4 turn to get on Duras' tail.
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
For me, I'd have to say the final Battle of Cardassia. Maybe because it showed a multi-front battle, ground, air, and space... Or maybe it was because I freaking love how the writers portrayed Damar. It was gritty on the ground, cinematic in space, and just all around visually stunning. I really loved the way it was put together.
The entirety of TWOK was a single engagement, not like the 2 ships split from each other into different systems, sectors. A stand up fight and a cat & mouse game. Once Enterprise encountered Reliant, they were never really that far away from each other for the remainder of the movie when you think about it
One of my personal favorites is TNG: "All Good Things...", the Enterprise-D (Gal-X) versus the two Negh'var. I like how the Enterprise comes up from underneath the Pasteur/Negh'var face-off, decloaks, fires a volley of Phaser Lance shots (something that I wish we could do in game) that punch right through one of the Negh'var and destroy it, Enterprise flies right up through the explosion and the other Negh'var breaks and runs. It's short, less than a minute, but it really shows the Anti-Time Enterprise as a dangerous ship.
Though I'm surprised no one's yet brought up Enterprise-A and Excelsior versus Chang's Bird-of-Prey from STVI: Undiscovered Country; the way the BoP is winning, Uhura's idea, the comments between Spock and McCoy while they're working on the Torpedo, Chang's reaction as he realizes the torpedo is homing in on him; Sulu's "Target that explosion and fire!" command (something that I find myself quoting at times) and the finale as Enterprise and Excelsior's torpedoes blast the BoP from either side until it's destroyed - it's very nicely cinematic in my opinion.
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
I'd say the Ent-d against the "Husnock ship", showing what a ship of explorers is capable of, even in a defensive mindset.
And the Andorian rescue of Archer and T'pol on Coridan for being the second step toward forming the Federation's top four(just meeting the Vulcans in TNG:F.C. was the first step, btw)
First choice; "Balance of Terror".
The battle was internal as well as external, with the suspicions, and prejudice, and then the tragedy in victory as the only one to die on the Enterprise had just gotten married.
In all the battle kept me in suspense since I knew Kirk etc, would win, but not how. Even years later I still get the same feeling.
Runner up; "Wrath of Khan" for the pacing, the themes of revenge and settling old scores, the in your face fury of it as cadets panicked and Scotty lost one of his kin because the kid stayed at his post.(yes! he did) and Khan! Old school Khan!
Speaking of Khan ... Third place goes to "Space Seed" for the battle at the end where the superior mind of Khan is beat down with a club by Kirk! Manufactured genes go up against natural cunning and get whipped! I do so love that.
It still makes me tear up a little whenever I watch it, and was a pretty good depiction of how even a tiny ship (and her captain) can make the ultimate sacrifice to save lives.
Ok, you got me. I have to add this to my list as at least an honorary mention.
Thanks to human and android ingenuity, yes. Continued martial resistance would, however, have resulted in the 1701-D being destroyed, and earth being assimilated.
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It still makes me tear up a little whenever I watch it, and was a pretty good depiction of how even a tiny ship (and her captain) can make the ultimate sacrifice to save lives.
For more conventional battles, I'd go with the Battle of the Omarion Nebula in "The Die is Cast". Even though we didn't see a lot of the actual fighting, seeing a Romulan warbird fighting to the death from the inside was something we hadn't seen before, and they did a great job conveying the scope of the fleet battle outside.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
It was hopeless and Sisko knew it, but they had to try.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
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TWOK came close but Kirk still felt the need to "resurface" to the same "altitude" as Khan before opening fire instead of just hitting him from underneath. In contrast, Nemesis had Enterprise doing barrel rolls to protect damaged shields and otherwise all four ships were crisscrossing each other at wild angles, firing all the while, and there's an awesome shot in '09 of Enterprise exiting the debris field upside-down relative to Narada.
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"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
The entirety of TWOK was a single engagement, not like the 2 ships split from each other into different systems, sectors. A stand up fight and a cat & mouse game. Once Enterprise encountered Reliant, they were never really that far away from each other for the remainder of the movie when you think about it
Though I'm surprised no one's yet brought up Enterprise-A and Excelsior versus Chang's Bird-of-Prey from STVI: Undiscovered Country; the way the BoP is winning, Uhura's idea, the comments between Spock and McCoy while they're working on the Torpedo, Chang's reaction as he realizes the torpedo is homing in on him; Sulu's "Target that explosion and fire!" command (something that I find myself quoting at times) and the finale as Enterprise and Excelsior's torpedoes blast the BoP from either side until it's destroyed - it's very nicely cinematic in my opinion.
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
And the Andorian rescue of Archer and T'pol on Coridan for being the second step toward forming the Federation's top four(just meeting the Vulcans in TNG:F.C. was the first step, btw)
The battle was internal as well as external, with the suspicions, and prejudice, and then the tragedy in victory as the only one to die on the Enterprise had just gotten married.
In all the battle kept me in suspense since I knew Kirk etc, would win, but not how. Even years later I still get the same feeling.
Runner up; "Wrath of Khan" for the pacing, the themes of revenge and settling old scores, the in your face fury of it as cadets panicked and Scotty lost one of his kin because the kid stayed at his post.(yes! he did) and Khan! Old school Khan!
Speaking of Khan ... Third place goes to "Space Seed" for the battle at the end where the superior mind of Khan is beat down with a club by Kirk! Manufactured genes go up against natural cunning and get whipped! I do so love that.
This was a fun topic.
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Ok, you got me. I have to add this to my list as at least an honorary mention.
Qapla!
Thanks to human and android ingenuity, yes. Continued martial resistance would, however, have resulted in the 1701-D being destroyed, and earth being assimilated.