The New Sovereign Class Model

thomaselkins · October 2016

Lots of pics of the new model here and she's looking pretty good. My only complaint is that the shuttlebay area is based on the First Contact and Insurrection variant. Personally I prefer the look of the Nemesis variant, which has arches come off the back of the saucer and blend in with the secondary hull. It forms a cup around the shuttlebay area that I always liked. It makes it look sleek. You can see the nacelle pylons on the new model are based on the Nemesis version, so why not the area around the shuttlebay too? They even added the torpedo launchers above the shuttlebay. Just look at the way John Eaves paints her. She needs those arches, IMO.

Also, minor nitpick: the new model has too many forward torpedo launchers. There should be one Quantum launcher and two Photon launchers on the bottom. The aft launchers are correct, although the two above the shuttlebay lack red lights.

Quick Edit: The shuttlebay also has nine little doors, while the real ship has six little doors and one big door. You can see that in both Insurrection and Nemesis when they launch shuttles.

kelettes · October 2016

I saw the tweets yesterday and oooh yes they certainly raised a few red flags in my head -- I'm smelling a T6 refit coming

And maybe a bundled package? Here's hoping. ^^

Anyway, I'm glad that the Sovie gets her own facelift as well

And with the lighting updates coming to PC as well... EYECANDY XD

admrenlarreck · October 2016

I just hope the T6 sovie being released in Nov is not the only one. I hope they have one Version in the C store at least. Im still going to track down the Nov limited release one anyway.

f8explorer · October 2016

kelettes wrote: »

I saw the tweets yesterday and oooh yes they certainly raised a few red flags in my head -- I'm smelling a T6 refit coming And maybe a bundled package? Here's hoping. ^^

Anyway, I'm glad that the Sovie gets her own facelift as well

And with the lighting updates coming to PC as well... EYECANDY XD

She's an exclusive that you can only get if you purchase a specific expansion pack for the "Attack Wings" game.

Link to article

From article: Secondly, the new U.S.S. Enterprise-E comes with a promotional code for use with Star Trek Online. Use the code included in your pack to claim the WizKids EXCLUSIVE Command Assault Cruiser, a $30 value, in Star Trek Online for FREE. Players will only be able to claim the digital version of the ship for the Star Trek Online game by physically purchasing the expansion at their local game stores.

sharpie65 · October 2016

With that paragraph, I'm going to assume it's getting a C-store release as well as the freebie.

If not, there will probably be a few unhappy people for a while.

avoozuul · October 2016

I usually care more for primarily tactical ships or at least secondary tactical engineer ships with my main tac toon, but I am very fond of the Assault Cruiser and I stupidly picked engineer ships when I first started playing this game up until the last free ship where I picked Assault Cruiser (eventually buying a default T5 Advanced Escort and moving on to actual tacical T6 ships starting with a Mercury tactical pilot ship). I am still looking forward to the T6 variant of the Assault Cruiser.

evilmark444 · October 2016

genhauk wrote: »

kelettes wrote: »

I saw the tweets yesterday and oooh yes they certainly raised a few red flags in my head -- I'm smelling a T6 refit coming And maybe a bundled package? Here's hoping. ^^

Anyway, I'm glad that the Sovie gets her own facelift as well

And with the lighting updates coming to PC as well... EYECANDY XD

She's an exclusive that you can only get if you purchase a specific expansion pack for the "Attack Wings" game.

Link to article

From article: Secondly, the new U.S.S. Enterprise-E comes with a promotional code for use with Star Trek Online. Use the code included in your pack to claim the WizKids EXCLUSIVE Command Assault Cruiser, a $30 value, in Star Trek Online for FREE. Players will only be able to claim the digital version of the ship for the Star Trek Online game by physically purchasing the expansion at their local game stores.

Wait, so I have to find a brick and mortar store that has it in stock and go in person to get it?? FFS this is the 21st century man ... only time I ever go to a store anymore is to get groceries or medicine ... this is beyond annoying

mustrumridcully0 · October 2016

I notice that when I use any hull other than that of the Sovereign on Tribble, some of hte "decals" seem to be flying mid-air.

jcsww · October 2016

valoreah wrote: »

evilmark444 wrote: »

Wait, so I have to find a brick and mortar store that has it in stock and go in person to get it?? FFS this is the 21st century man ... only time I ever go to a store anymore is to get groceries or medicine ... this is beyond annoying

I highly doubt they are going to release this as a WizKids perk.

Just like a lot of people thought the same about the T6 TOS Connie coming in a R&D promo box. The MU Guardian has never been put in the C-Store to purchase, which is a shame, and you still can't purchase the Ambassador either.

admrenlarreck · October 2016

reyan01 wrote: »

I have to say I'd be extremely surprised if this were not case - a lot of work has clearly gone into the Sovereign revamp - combined with the fact that this is one of the franchise's hero ships we're discussing I find it very difficult to beleive that they wouldn't capitalise on that.

USS Enterprise NCC-1701 no bloody A,B,C, or D.

You were saying?

admrenlarreck · October 2016

evilmark444 wrote: »

Wait, so I have to find a brick and mortar store that has it in stock and go in person to get it?? FFS this is the 21st century man ... only time I ever go to a store anymore is to get groceries or medicine ... this is beyond annoying

At least they make that easy they have a spot on the web page where you type in your zipcode and it tells you where the closest stores are.

ssbn655 · October 2016

I do not put much stock into the digital renders as I have seen Hi Rez shots of the actual physical model and the Enterrpise E studio model is breath taking in detail. The renders do not do it justice.

themetalstickman · October 2016

Loving the new model. I especially like the improved detail on the deflector dish.

angrytarg · October 2016

Good to see a canon model getting a long desired treatment. I hope the Nebula is next

nikeix · October 2016

evilmark444 wrote: »

Wait, so I have to find a brick and mortar store that has it in stock and go in person to get it?? FFS this is the 21st century man ... only time I ever go to a store anymore is to get groceries or medicine ... this is beyond annoying

You'd think someone so adept at the interwebs would have heard of ordering online by now...

Or do you imagine they have a ****ing spy satellite watching your every movement? "We just had another code entered in... Oh, wait. Oh, no, he didn't go to a store, we're not taking his code entered through the webstite like everyone else who bought one. Nope, nope, nope!"

gaevsman · October 2016

I'll buy the ship the moment its available on the c-store, and i'll try to get the attack wing one.. so i can get, at least, one exclusive in my life

evilmark444 · October 2016

nikeix wrote: »

evilmark444 wrote: »

Wait, so I have to find a brick and mortar store that has it in stock and go in person to get it?? FFS this is the 21st century man ... only time I ever go to a store anymore is to get groceries or medicine ... this is beyond annoying

You'd think someone so adept at the interwebs would have heard of ordering online by now...

Or do you imagine they have a ****ing spy satellite watching your every movement? "We just had another code entered in... Oh, wait. Oh, no, he didn't go to a store, we're not taking his code entered through the webstite like everyone else who bought one. Nope, nope, nope!"

The message I quoted said that to get it players need to "physically [purchase] the expansion at their local game stores", this wording would seem to explicitly imply that online ordering won't work somehow, which is what I was referring to and what has me rather pissed off.

Do I think they have a satellite following my every move? Hell no, I'm not paranoid like that. However, I could easily see a situation where online retailers are not provided with the codes, if that is the intention as implied.

thlaylierah · October 2016

They are referring to purchasing from a brick and mortar store, many of which have an online presence in the form of a shop that you can order from online, yet you still are purchasing from a brick and mortar store, filling that criteria.

szim · October 2016

angrytarg wrote: »

Good to see a canon model getting a long desired treatment. I hope the Nebula is next

I second that. Come on Cryptic peepz, you already have high quality Galaxy saucer, engineering section and warp nacelles! All you need to do is stick them together and replace the old Nebula model

salvation4 · October 2016

angrytarg wrote: »

Good to see a canon model getting a long desired treatment. I hope the Nebula is next

Damn straight!!! She was long overdue to be pushed to the Nemisis styling and also I am sincerly hoping she goes the T6 route and gets hanger bays too equiped with the ARGO and the actually nemisis sov bridge..Then I'd be happy to pump whatever $$$ they want for it as long its not a ridiculous amount..

amayakitsune · October 2016

reyan01 wrote: »

It's a lovely model, no doubt about that at all, but still not sold - I prefer the Nemesis version.

Although I'm not convinced I would purchase that variant either - mostly because if I were going to buy a revamped Sovereign I'd rather wait and see if one with a more interesting hybrid BOFF layout appears in the C-store, but also because I'm sick of the over-emphasis on cruisers of late.

Outside of the nacelle position and the walls flanking the saucer shuttle bay, the model is pretty much the nemesis version, several of the additional torpedo launchers are present on the model (particularity the ones above the airlock on deck 3 the the pairs on the ventral fore and ventral aft of the engineering hull).

What astounds me... is that they do so good on the model and the mess up the tiny details:

The port nacelle is missing its blue trail (honestly if we could get rid of ALL the trails that would be amazing, but if not lets re add the trail to the port nacelle)

and the port nacelle running light (the flashing on, right behind the bussard collector) has taken a vacation from the ship and is floating off in space

rangerryu · October 2016

amayakitsune wrote: »

and the port nacelle running light (the flashing on, right behind the bussard collector) has taken a vacation from the ship and is floating off in space

at least it's not like the Imperial class where the nacelles wandered off entirely!

artan42 · October 2016

reyan01 wrote: »

It's a lovely model, no doubt about that at all, but still not sold - I prefer the Nemesis version.

Same. The Nemesis version looks sleeker to me.

salvation4 · October 2016

wait are they redoing the current model and introducing a new T6???? Just a bit confused here..

jorantomalak · October 2016

reyan01 wrote: »

salvation4 wrote: »

wait are they redoing the current model and introducing a new T6???? Just a bit confused here..

Yes to both.

It's being 'revamped' and will be a T6 ship with command hybrid BOFF seating, although it will only be available via the promotion advertised on the STO website homepage.

Speculation is that they may well produce a C-store model with an alternative hybrid BOFF though (would be very surprised if they didn't as this particular ship is a guaranteed cash-cow).

Your forgetting cryptics "exclusive" TRIBBLE they doing now with ships

jorantomalak · October 2016

reyan01 wrote: »

jorantomalak wrote: »

reyan01 wrote: »

salvation4 wrote: »

wait are they redoing the current model and introducing a new T6???? Just a bit confused here..

Yes to both.

It's being 'revamped' and will be a T6 ship with command hybrid BOFF seating, although it will only be available via the promotion advertised on the STO website homepage.

Speculation is that they may well produce a C-store model with an alternative hybrid BOFF though (would be very surprised if they didn't as this particular ship is a guaranteed cash-cow).

Your forgetting cryptics "exclusive" **** they doing now with ships

Not really; if they produced a C-store version with a different hybrid specialisation to the promotional one, the promtional one would still be unique.

Again, it's much the same as they did with the Guardian; the Mirror Guardian was exclusive to the charity event that it was offerred in, and is unique in that it has Command hybrid as oposed the the C-store version, which is Intel.

I sure hope your right would like to get my hands on a T6 sovie myself, but until they make an official statement i wont get my hopes up

bltrrn · October 2016

reyan01 wrote: »

jorantomalak wrote: »

reyan01 wrote: »

jorantomalak wrote: »

reyan01 wrote: »

salvation4 wrote: »

wait are they redoing the current model and introducing a new T6???? Just a bit confused here..

Yes to both.

It's being 'revamped' and will be a T6 ship with command hybrid BOFF seating, although it will only be available via the promotion advertised on the STO website homepage.

Speculation is that they may well produce a C-store model with an alternative hybrid BOFF though (would be very surprised if they didn't as this particular ship is a guaranteed cash-cow).

Your forgetting cryptics "exclusive" **** they doing now with ships

Not really; if they produced a C-store version with a different hybrid specialisation to the promotional one, the promtional one would still be unique.

Again, it's much the same as they did with the Guardian; the Mirror Guardian was exclusive to the charity event that it was offerred in, and is unique in that it has Command hybrid as oposed the the C-store version, which is Intel.

I sure hope your right would like to get my hands on a T6 sovie myself, but until they make an official statement i wont get my hopes up

I hope so too, for the sake of all those who want the ship.

Again - it is only speculation, but honestly - I really don't beleive that they won't produce a C-store variant. I mean, look at it this way:
A: The Sovereign class is one of the most popular ships in the franchise
B: It's a hero ship
C: A lot of time and effort has clearly gone into improving the in-game model.

In the case of 'A' - I, personally, still see plenty of Sovereign class ships around in-game.
In the case of 'B' - it was an Enterprise
In the case of 'C' - whilst debatable, I don't beleive that they'd put that much time and effort into remodelling a ship only to limit it to a promotion. I'm convinced we'll see a C-store version with a different hybrid.

I have a feeling that if the C-Store variant comes with any existing spec, it would probably be pilot, with a Lt. Temporal seat. Just my $0.02.

sharpie65 · October 2016

reyan01 wrote: »

bltrrn wrote: »

reyan01 wrote: »

jorantomalak wrote: »

reyan01 wrote: »

jorantomalak wrote: »

reyan01 wrote: »

salvation4 wrote: »

wait are they redoing the current model and introducing a new T6???? Just a bit confused here..

Yes to both.

It's being 'revamped' and will be a T6 ship with command hybrid BOFF seating, although it will only be available via the promotion advertised on the STO website homepage.

Speculation is that they may well produce a C-store model with an alternative hybrid BOFF though (would be very surprised if they didn't as this particular ship is a guaranteed cash-cow).

Your forgetting cryptics "exclusive" **** they doing now with ships

Not really; if they produced a C-store version with a different hybrid specialisation to the promotional one, the promtional one would still be unique.

Again, it's much the same as they did with the Guardian; the Mirror Guardian was exclusive to the charity event that it was offerred in, and is unique in that it has Command hybrid as oposed the the C-store version, which is Intel.

I sure hope your right would like to get my hands on a T6 sovie myself, but until they make an official statement i wont get my hopes up

I hope so too, for the sake of all those who want the ship.

Again - it is only speculation, but honestly - I really don't beleive that they won't produce a C-store variant. I mean, look at it this way:
A: The Sovereign class is one of the most popular ships in the franchise
B: It's a hero ship
C: A lot of time and effort has clearly gone into improving the in-game model.

In the case of 'A' - I, personally, still see plenty of Sovereign class ships around in-game.
In the case of 'B' - it was an Enterprise
In the case of 'C' - whilst debatable, I don't beleive that they'd put that much time and effort into remodelling a ship only to limit it to a promotion. I'm convinced we'll see a C-store version with a different hybrid.

I have a feeling that if the C-Store variant comes with any existing spec, it would probably be pilot, with a Lt. Temporal seat. Just my $0.02.

Or they could turn 'Strategist' into a full specialisation and give it a hybrid Strategist BOFF

While there is precedent for that to happen, I'm hoping for a Pilot cruiser. The Sov will be one of the best candidates for that due to how much more agile the ship is when you compare it to other large-sized cruiser-type vessels of it's era; while it isn't a battlecruiser, it's the next best thing to one when you consider the size of the armament.

I've a feeling* that, if it is a Pilot vessel, the Metreon Gas Canisters and Wide-Angle Quantum Torpedo Launcher will form a 2-pc set bonus due to them being able to fitted onto other ships. The ship itself will have either a console will improve the speed of the ship/weapon firing cycles, or a rapid-fire/cluster quantum torpedo launcher.

*

All of that is purely speculation, I have as much clue about what ship it will be as the next man.

Unless that man is one of the design team.

drazzii · October 2016

I think the PIlot specialization has been specific to escort type ships and not cruisers, so I don't think the T6 Sovereign will get that specialization (I agree, the Sovereign would make the best candidate for the Pilot specialization, though).
And the Strategist specialization-although makes sense-won't be made as a primary specialization so we're not likely to see that either on a T6 Sovereign.
The Sovereign I don't think would fit into the Temporal specialization either, so we're not likely to see a Temporal T6 Sovereign.
As the Attack Wing expansion ship looks to be Command, I think we're left to assume that the C-Store T6 Sovereign will have the Intel specialization. Also, all Hero cruiser ships so far have been given 2x Lt.CMD boff seats, which means either the Lt ENG or Lt UNIV will be upgraded to Lt.CMD and then likely also given the Intel hybrid seating.

My thoughts: Lt.Cmd TAC, Ens TAC, Cmd ENG, Lt ENG, Lt.Cmd UNIV/INT for the C-Store T6 Sovereign

EDIT: I suppose they could also make the hybrid seating on the Lt ENG seat too...

EDIT2: (as this is under the "Art of..." subforum) I can't wait to see more art/screenshots of the new T6 Sovereign!

The New Sovereign Class Model

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