Xbox 1 Fleet Scams fire all weapons Nar!

warlordfennell · October 2016

So after bouncing around a few fleets on the Klingon and Fed side looking for a good fleet to join. I made my own on Fed side Crimson Elite. Fleets should not be charging their members 8% daily tax or 50% tax on Tour Galaxy so fleet leaders can buy master keys for themselves.

In my Fleet Crimson Elite we have Fleet events where we have handed out 25 master keys, 4 T5 ships and on Monday over 5 million in game credits. We have no Fleet tax. So if you are looking for a Fleet the does not scam it's members Crimson Elite is Recruiting on Fed side.

baudl · October 2016

LOL, and people accept that? I mean, really? How pathetic are people who charge others to join, and even how more pathetic are people who actually agree to that?

warlordfennell · October 2016

Like I said Fleets scamming members into paying taxes so the leader can buy master keys is wrong. Sorry you on the wrong forum this is for Xbox not PC.

thunderfoot · October 2016

As long as there are people who play games, there will be people who attempt to scam others. As long as there are people who play games there will be people dumb enough to fall for these scams.

warlordfennell · October 2016

baudl wrote: »

LOL, and people accept that? I mean, really? How pathetic are people who charge others to join, and even how more pathetic are people who actually agree to that?

Total agree that why I made this post to let people know on Xbox that most Fleets asking for these crazy taxes are only doing so to buy keys. The First fleet I was in the Leader took out 16 million in 6 days back when Keys where 300k to 400k saying the money had been stolen by the ex VP.

seaofsorrows · October 2016

I don't really think that charging a tax for fleet membership violates any rules... if people want to do that, then I guess it's on them.

I think anyone that actually pays it however, needs to have their head examined. As said above, on the PC version fleets often pay people just to join, not the other way around.

People can charge if they wish, and I hope they enjoy their empty fleets because no one with half a brain would pay to be in a fleet.

mustrumridcully0 · October 2016

Clever TRIBBLE, these fleet leaders. Using your fleet members to get space rich. I wonder if these are future gold sellers, PC veterans that want to be space-rich on a different game, or new players that already grasp how the game's economy will work.

Certainly beware them and never pay any "taxes" to your fleet.

Later once, fleet holdings become available, fleets will cost you a lot. But everyone will get something out of that. (and the EC, Dilithium and all the other other resources spend on the holdings doesn't go to anyone.)

stickystick · October 2016

seaofsorrows wrote: »

I don't really think that charging a tax for fleet membership violates any rules... if people want to do that, then I guess it's on them.

I think anyone that actually pays it however, needs to have their head examined. As said above, on the PC version fleets often pay people just to join, not the other way around.

People can charge if they wish, and I hope they enjoy their empty fleets because no one with half a brain would pay to be in a fleet.

There is no rule sadly. Of course, taxing your members isn't the problem here. It's the fact that these guys tax their members so that they, themselves, can afford to buy lockbox keys off the exchange.

The game is too old for them, though, sadly, to bother changing some aspects such as making keys character/account bound to prevent such scams.

anazonda · October 2016

Sounds like a scam to me.

davefenestrator · October 2016

I wonder why any people fall for it right now -- is there any benefit to being in a console fleet before holdings are added and there are ships, gear, fleet credits?

starkaos · October 2016

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

Clever ****, these fleet leaders. Using your fleet members to get space rich. I wonder if these are future gold sellers, PC veterans that want to be space-rich on a different game, or new players that already grasp how the game's economy will work.

Certainly beware them and never pay any "taxes" to your fleet.

Later once, fleet holdings become available, fleets will cost you a lot. But everyone will get something out of that. (and the EC, Dilithium and all the other other resources spend on the holdings doesn't go to anyone.)

There have been quite a few Fleets that heavily restricted which Fleet Members could get access to the Fleet Stores. Other Fleets have requirements for the Fleet Store like contribution X amount of Fleet Credits or participating in certain Fleet activities before granting access.

warlordfennell · October 2016

Here is a example video of how I reward my active Fleet members.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ergojsn9JJ4

markhawkman · October 2016

starkaos wrote: »

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

Clever ****, these fleet leaders. Using your fleet members to get space rich. I wonder if these are future gold sellers, PC veterans that want to be space-rich on a different game, or new players that already grasp how the game's economy will work.

Certainly beware them and never pay any "taxes" to your fleet.

Later once, fleet holdings become available, fleets will cost you a lot. But everyone will get something out of that. (and the EC, Dilithium and all the other other resources spend on the holdings doesn't go to anyone.)

There have been quite a few Fleets that heavily restricted which Fleet Members could get access to the Fleet Stores. Other Fleets have requirements for the Fleet Store like contribution X amount of Fleet Credits or participating in certain Fleet activities before granting access.

They're often called "bad fleets".

Good fleets exist for the mutual benefit of the fleet members.

taylor1701d · October 2016

warlordfennell wrote: »

Here is a example video of how I reward my active Fleet members.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ergojsn9JJ4

Well...keep it up, keep advertising in game, and you should have one of the healthier fleets on console.

Our last fleet Giveaway for the Risa Summer Event gave out near 1 billion EC in in game items.
Leechs, Experimental Upgrade Tech, Gambling Devices, Uniforms, weapons with favorable mods etc.

I organized the giveaway, and everything that was gifted came from my own personal stash.
Everyone who took the time to email me in game to enter said contest got at least 20 Experimental Upgrade Techs for their efforts.

It's not much compared to other fleets in the game, But I find even a small giveaway, gives the members something to look forward to twice a year (Summer and Winter Events).

Now I'm trying to figure out what to do for the Winter Event.
I'm thinking I'll up the ante, and pickup 5-10 Lobi/lockbox ships to give away.

It's not much of a sacrifice, when you have good fleet members that fill projects ASAP.
Our research lab was ready about a week or 2 behind some of the biggest spending fleets in the game. The leadership was very pleased with our members efforts.

And you're doing good OP...Keep it up, once people hear about how your Fleet operates, you should be able to recruit quite easily, and hey, maybe you'll even change the tide... and force those other "Tax" fleets to change their ways, or they may end up withering and dead before they know it.
Good luck, keep fighting the good fight.

fiberteksyfir · October 2016

That is rediculous for sure. The fact that people actually buy into it is another story. Especially considering that fleets on console right now mean actually nothing. There isnt any fleet content out yet for them (sb, holdings..)

darkbladejk · October 2016

warlordfennell wrote: »

Like I said Fleets scamming members into paying taxes so the leader can buy master keys is wrong. Sorry you on the wrong forum this is for Xbox not PC.

PC and consoles currently share a forum until the consoles get their own separate forums. until then it's all one giant forum.

warlordfennell wrote: »

So after bouncing around a few fleets on the Klingon and Fed side looking for a good fleet to join. I made my own on Fed side Crimson Elite. Fleets should not be charging their members 8% daily tax or 50% tax on Tour Galaxy so fleet leaders can buy master keys for themselves.

In my Fleet Crimson Elite we have Fleet events where we have handed out 25 master keys, 4 T5 ships and on Monday over 5 million in game credits. We have no Fleet tax. So if you are looking for a Fleet the does not scam it's members Crimson Elite is Recruiting on Fed side.

I'm not sure what's worst honestly, the fact that people actually try to charge for membership and then "taxes" once people actually get in, or the fact that people actually pay it. honestly if a fleet needs "taxes" to survive then they deserve to fail. I'm all for helping fleet members and so on, but that's just ridiculous.

catch21 · October 2016

We just had an officer take everything of worth and all of the EC in the fleet bank and leave......But yea I see people trying to pull that charge to join and play TRIBBLE, pisses me off. I can't believe people fall for it. You aren't paying dues, thats a dicatatorship

lordsteve1 · October 2016

Sadly there's gonna be a lot of newbies who have no idea how things work and easily fall for it. The ones at fault are the scammers though as they are taking advantage of player ignorance for their little scam.

Best thing to do is encourage fair play with fleets by getting word out there how it should be done. NOP have helped thousands of players with their channel, giveaways and general helpful attitude, the console version clearly needs something like that.
You players need to drive those leeches out.

lighte007 · October 2016

These scamming fleets are annoying. Taxes? In an MMO, this isn't a Fantasy MMO.

markhawkman · October 2016

Honestly public talks about it as part of fleet recruiting seem like the best way to fight it.

chastity1337 · October 2016

warlordfennell wrote: »

Like I said Fleets scamming members into paying taxes so the leader can buy master keys is wrong. Sorry you on the wrong forum this is for Xbox not PC.

Ohhh, so this forum we PC players have been using for years is actually for XBox. Thank you so very much for informing us

warlordfennell · October 2016

The new scam they are running is 10 million just to join the empty fleet of nothing.

d0nomega · October 2016

coldnapalm wrote: »

Really...are you console players THAT stupid?!? OMG. At this point, if you fall for something that obviously stupid, it's your own damn fault.

Not all of us

No one has asked for me to return my College degree's yet.

warlordfennell wrote: »

The new scam they are running is 10 million just to join the empty fleet of nothing.

Ah, I've heard people talking about a certain Fleet in general chat

Anyway, I'm interested in joining your Fleet. If you're still looking for member just shoot @RobDaCool an invite in-game.

crashdownbsg · October 2016

I was in a fleet on PC where the "leaders" took millions of EC to buy ships!

trennan · October 2016

This is where you scam them back. They have no idea how much EC you've made while playing. "You need to pay 8% of this and 50% of that." "Ok, but 8% and 50% of nothing, is still nothing."