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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Patience is a virtue.

    that doesn't exits in these fora
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,659 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Would be nice to see Eaglemoss do a ship promotion tied into STO too. No idea how feasable that would be, but those Eaglemoss models are superb (though I only currently own one - the USS Equinox).

    I'd LOVE a Risan Luxury Cruiser or an Avenger or Odyssey
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,659 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Would be nice to see Eaglemoss do a ship promotion tied into STO too. No idea how feasable that would be, but those Eaglemoss models are superb (though I only currently own one - the USS Equinox).

    I'd LOVE a Risan Luxury Cruiser or an Avenger or Odyssey

    Well, to be fair the recent 3D printing promotion could likely produce those for you.

    hope it won't cost a kidney. >_>
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    I have one kidney to spare for a Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer. The other kidney might get swapped for an Eclipse Intel Cruiser.

    I'd be all over Eaglemoss taking on some of the STO original designs, but ultimately I don't think the market volume is there to make it worth their while..
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Would be nice to see Eaglemoss do a ship promotion tied into STO too. No idea how feasable that would be, but those Eaglemoss models are superb (though I only currently own one - the USS Equinox).
    I'd LOVE a Risan Luxury Cruiser or an Avenger or Odyssey
    Well, to be fair the recent 3D printing promotion could likely produce those for you.
    hope it won't cost a kidney. >_>
    You may be disappointed in that case :p
    Honestly, I'm betting on 100$ or less. maybe around 50.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,659 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    I have one kidney to spare for a Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer. The other kidney might get swapped for an Eclipse Intel Cruiser.

    I'd be all over Eaglemoss taking on some of the STO original designs, but ultimately I don't think the market volume is there to make it worth their while..

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  • kjfettkjfett Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    kjfett wrote: »
    kjfett wrote: »
    I'm curious as to why it's labeled as a "Command Assault Cruiser". It's not like the other standard T6 ships are named in such a way.

    Because the T5 ship is called an Assault Cruiser as the ship model is used to represent the Sovereign, Majestic, Noble, and Imperial class cruisers. http://sto.gamepedia.com/Assault_Cruiser

    I know that the Sovereign is called an Assault Cruiser. They're calling it Command Assault Cruiser. The Command part is what I'm curious about. Read the rest of my post.

    Sorry, I assumed the fact that they use Command on other ships to indicate that they have Command Boffs...and the fact that I already explained all that in an earlier post would have been obvious. Funny that you suggest I read your post when you failed to read several of mine. :tongue:

    I understood. It's completely obvious that T6 Sovereign will come with Command boff seating seeing as how the box literally says "Command Assault Cruiser". The point that I'm trying to make is that I'm wondering whether or not it will be a true Command ship, whether it will have a full seating (Commander Engineering/Command and comes with inspiration abilities) or a partial seating (like Lt. Commander Universal/Command and does not come with the inspiration mechanic).

    The Command Battlecruisers you linked are true Command ships. They have Command in the name because they have the full seating and the inspiration mechanic. Traditionally, most of the prime canon hero T6 ships (such as Andromeda/T6 Galaxy or Valiant/T6 Defiant) do not come with the full specialization seating or the mechanic. Andromeda is not a fully fledged Command ship because it only comes with Lt. Commander Engineering/Command and no inspiration mechanic. Valiant is not a fully fledged Pilot ship because it only comes with Lt. Commander Tactical/Pilot and no pilot maneuvers.

    Andromeda isn't known as "Command Exploration Cruiser" because it's not a Command ship. It's instead just called "Exploration Cruiser [T6]" in admiralty or "Andromeda Exploration Cruiser" under the C-store.

    Valiant isn't known as "Pilot Tactical Escort" because it's not a Pilot ship. Instead it's just called "Tactical Escort [T6]" in admiralty or "Tactical Escort - Valiant Class" under the C-store.

    I'm just repeating myself at this point. Just because a ship has Command boffs doesn't mean they are true Command ships.

    What I'm curious about is why they're calling the T6 Sovereign as "Command Assault Cruiser" when the name should just be "Assault Cruiser [T6]". This is sorta implying that it will end up being a true fully fledged Command ship just like the ships in your link.

    Like I said before, I'm really doubting it and only think that this is merely just a sneak peak. When it comes out, it's likely that it will be called "Assault Cruiser [T6]" in admiralty or something like "Assault Cruiser - Emperor Class" under the C-store. This is just under the assumption that T6 Sovereign will follow the tradition of other prime hero ships don't get the full treatment. The only other ship to break this tradition was T6 Connie. Maybe it will end up as a true Command ship. Who knows.

    They specifically call it a Command Assault Cruiser. That is a fact.

    Your long explanation about "prime hero" ships is all based on assumptions as they have never said anything to confirm it. It's entirely speculation and even as you point out; there is already an exception.

    I would have to say that we can safely assume it is a Command Assault Cruiser until they come out with any official comments to say otherwise. Until then, your assumptions are baseless and all that typing you did was a waste. :|
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    All typing in these Forums are, in reality, a waste. :)
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  • damienvryce2damienvryce2 Member Posts: 428 Arc User
    Mine is ordered. Wasn't going to do it but the possibility of it being a T6 Sovereign was too much to pass up. :|
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Ordered mine, from a brick and morter that also does e-commerce. Only $13 and change out the door. Just in case it becomes hot schitt and sells out quickly. I would guess more people play STO than attack wing, so it bought up by us players more than board game players.
  • chozoelder2ndchozoelder2nd Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    kjfett wrote: »
    kjfett wrote: »
    kjfett wrote: »
    I'm curious as to why it's labeled as a "Command Assault Cruiser". It's not like the other standard T6 ships are named in such a way.

    Because the T5 ship is called an Assault Cruiser as the ship model is used to represent the Sovereign, Majestic, Noble, and Imperial class cruisers. http://sto.gamepedia.com/Assault_Cruiser

    I know that the Sovereign is called an Assault Cruiser. They're calling it Command Assault Cruiser. The Command part is what I'm curious about. Read the rest of my post.

    Sorry, I assumed the fact that they use Command on other ships to indicate that they have Command Boffs...and the fact that I already explained all that in an earlier post would have been obvious. Funny that you suggest I read your post when you failed to read several of mine. :tongue:

    I understood. It's completely obvious that T6 Sovereign will come with Command boff seating seeing as how the box literally says "Command Assault Cruiser". The point that I'm trying to make is that I'm wondering whether or not it will be a true Command ship, whether it will have a full seating (Commander Engineering/Command and comes with inspiration abilities) or a partial seating (like Lt. Commander Universal/Command and does not come with the inspiration mechanic).

    The Command Battlecruisers you linked are true Command ships. They have Command in the name because they have the full seating and the inspiration mechanic. Traditionally, most of the prime canon hero T6 ships (such as Andromeda/T6 Galaxy or Valiant/T6 Defiant) do not come with the full specialization seating or the mechanic. Andromeda is not a fully fledged Command ship because it only comes with Lt. Commander Engineering/Command and no inspiration mechanic. Valiant is not a fully fledged Pilot ship because it only comes with Lt. Commander Tactical/Pilot and no pilot maneuvers.

    Andromeda isn't known as "Command Exploration Cruiser" because it's not a Command ship. It's instead just called "Exploration Cruiser [T6]" in admiralty or "Andromeda Exploration Cruiser" under the C-store.

    Valiant isn't known as "Pilot Tactical Escort" because it's not a Pilot ship. Instead it's just called "Tactical Escort [T6]" in admiralty or "Tactical Escort - Valiant Class" under the C-store.

    I'm just repeating myself at this point. Just because a ship has Command boffs doesn't mean they are true Command ships.

    What I'm curious about is why they're calling the T6 Sovereign as "Command Assault Cruiser" when the name should just be "Assault Cruiser [T6]". This is sorta implying that it will end up being a true fully fledged Command ship just like the ships in your link.

    Like I said before, I'm really doubting it and only think that this is merely just a sneak peak. When it comes out, it's likely that it will be called "Assault Cruiser [T6]" in admiralty or something like "Assault Cruiser - Emperor Class" under the C-store. This is just under the assumption that T6 Sovereign will follow the tradition of other prime hero ships don't get the full treatment. The only other ship to break this tradition was T6 Connie. Maybe it will end up as a true Command ship. Who knows.

    They specifically call it a Command Assault Cruiser. That is a fact.

    Your long explanation about "prime hero" ships is all based on assumptions as they have never said anything to confirm it. It's entirely speculation and even as you point out; there is already an exception.

    I would have to say that we can safely assume it is a Command Assault Cruiser until they come out with any official comments to say otherwise. Until then, your assumptions are baseless and all that typing you did was a waste. :|

    @kjfett, I went out of my way to say that I'm agreeing with you. I said it. It's the second sentence.
    It's completely obvious that T6 Sovereign will come with Command boff seating seeing as how the box literally says "Command Assault Cruiser".
    I also say
    What I'm curious about is why they're calling the T6 Sovereign as "Command Assault Cruiser" when the name should just be "Assault Cruiser [T6]". This is sorta implying that it will end up being a true fully fledged Command ship just like the ships in your link.

    I don't know how I can possibly make it more clear that we're both on the same page and I was merely trying to say why I'm curious.
    1. You say that it'll be a Command ship. (Not entirely sure if you're saying it'll be a full one or a partial one, but either way, you say it will have Command boff skills.)
    2. I agree and list reasons on why you're right. I list reasons on why it could potentially be a full Command ship while staying cautious and having doubts so I don't disappoint myself when it comes out. e.g. "wishful thinking".
    3. You tell me that it was a waste to type it.

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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    reyan01 wrote: »
    "Players will only be able to claim the digital version of the ship for the Star Trek Online game by physically purchasing the expansion at their local game stores"

    That could cause a few problems.....

    And seems a bit counter intuitive since all the ships are sold online by numerous retailers including Amazon.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    "Players will only be able to claim the digital version of the ship for the Star Trek Online game by physically purchasing the expansion at their local game stores"

    That could cause a few problems.....

    This was already discussed. There are a number of physical stores that also sell online. Do a search for Star Trek Attack Wing on Amazon and you'll see numerous results. Hell, even Amazon has a number of small shops that sell on there. But if you want to be doubly sure, you correspond with them and make sure that what you buy has that code. I imagine this can get into Amazon as well and if you want specifics, correspond with the merchant and have that proof before you deal. Because if the deal goes awry, you can go to Amazon with the dispute and proof and you'll get your money back. I had to do this with a transaction on Amazon before and Amazon was very quick on getting me back my $.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,971 Community Moderator
    daveyny wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    "Players will only be able to claim the digital version of the ship for the Star Trek Online game by physically purchasing the expansion at their local game stores"

    That could cause a few problems.....

    And seems a bit counter intuitive since all the ships are sold online by numerous retailers including Amazon.

    I have a game store near my place at the Tacoma Mall, Uncle's Games, and they have Star Trek Attack Wing in stock. They also have an Attack Wing event at least once a month. While the community is a bit small, it exists here in Washington. And just about all my Attack Wing ships came from that particular store. While I already have the Ent-E pack from the original release, I do plan on getting the rerelease because A: T6 Sovy code, B: MUCH better paint job over the initial release and most likely more detailed model, and C: Comes with the Dorsal Phaser Array weapon card, which gives a Fed ship with 4 or more Hull points a 360 degree attack at range 1-2. And it is NOT a unique upgrade so you can have as many as you want in your fleet.

    Also... there is the Game Matrix down past 84th Street and I wanna say South Tacoma Way in Tacoma that carries Attack Wing. So anybody in the South Sound here in Washington have some options.
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,983 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    I'm not finding any online pre-order stores can somebody post at least one link to one?

    I checked Electronics Boutique and Amazon.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    I'm not finding any online pre-order stores can somebody post at least one link to one?

    I checked Electronics Boutique and Amazon.

    It's only Pre-Order through physical game stores at this time, but I have no doubt that by early to mid-November it will be available online.
    The front of the package has the STO Exclusive moniker on it so it won't be hard to miss.
    I am actually going to one of my local gaming stores tomorrow to see if they can pre-order it for me.
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  • cuchulainn74cuchulainn74 Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    I've got two places to check near my house, and two more near my office in San Francisco. I found them by clicking "Find a store" on the Attack Wing website.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    I've got two places to check near my house, and two more near my office in San Francisco. I found them by clicking "Find a store" on the Attack Wing website.

    I checked that link on their site also.
    But already knew about all the existing stores in my area having been to all of them several times in the last year or so.
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  • imperatorpaveliimperatorpaveli Member Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    Yeah, I just went to my local game store and pre-ordered one. They'll probably be available through Amazon and stuff after the actual pack comes out, and various sites will probably be selling them.

    By then people will have the stats and we'll probably know if it's worth getting or not.
  • pwemademedothispwemademedothis Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    hanover2 wrote: »
    then I guess the rage subsides a bit.

    Bad move Dr. Banner. If you let the rage subside, Ross and Talbot win. ;)

    :D
  • tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    hanover2 wrote: »
    So, wait. I have to buy some piece of a crappy table top game I'll never play, in order to obtain a T6 Sovereign? And it will never be available any other way? Ridiculous.

    Isn't this cheaper than the zen store price tag of T6 ships though? So spend less, get more?

    but some people like to complain just because they can......you can buy this for $15, and get some junk with it that you throw away........or you can complain because you can't buy it in game for $30..............hmmmmmmmmm.......

    I'd bet you can recognize the difference between $15 that has no alternative except out-of-pocket, and $30 worth of zen that can (eventually) be transmuted from dil you amass in game. Case in point, my main character who flew one or another sovereign variation for most of his first 2 years, who'd like to have this ship, and who will probably not end up with it unless it's done the same way as the Guardian, i.e. a 'standard' c-store version of some sort. I have no money to spare right now, hence the playing a f2p game...it's got nothing to do with not wanting the other stuff that comes with the code...$15<$30 and I'd be all over it if I could spare that much rather than trying to get a month or 2's worth of rent to job hunt in a bigger city.
  • tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    Amending the above, I'd also give it a go if I had a brick-and-mortar location closer than 1.5 hrs. So many things one misses out on in a 3000-person town out in the sticks of CA.
  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    Honestly, I'm betting on 100$ or less. maybe around 50.

    You're going to lose that bet.

  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    Honestly, I'm betting on 100$ or less. maybe around 50.
    You're going to lose that bet.
    Oh? what makes you say that?
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    Because they charge more than that for MUCH smaller figures. Plus CBS is not exactly subtle about taking their cut.
  • dmb311dmb311 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    Threw down a pre-order at the local game shop.

    They immediately invited me to their 8 person group to join and play on their regular nights. I said "I'm just getting it for the STO code" and walked out. I got dil to grind.
  • kjfettkjfett Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    dmb311 wrote: »
    Threw down a pre-order at the local game shop.

    They immediately invited me to their 8 person group to join and play on their regular nights. I said "I'm just getting it for the STO code" and walked out. I got dil to grind.

    Good for you! Don't give in to this blatant attempt by Cryptic to both control the Dil market and our social life. B)
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  • rangerryurangerryu Member Posts: 284 Arc User
    Hmmm I didn't think I would be able to take advantage of this but appartenly there's a gamer café in Liverpool that stocks them so will have to have a look!
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    Because they charge more than that for MUCH smaller figures. Plus CBS is not exactly subtle about taking their cut.
    lets, see...
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10142383-new-shipyards-are-coming-online

    The announcement says "Eucl3D"...
    http://eucl3d.com/pages/startrek

    Their 8" Kerbal ships are 99$. 4", 29$: http://eucl3d.com/collections/kerbal-space-program

    The only thing I could find that has 12" models also has them for 99$:
    http://eucl3d.com/collections/simple-planes/products/uss-atlanta?variant=23794743303

    Actually, I don't see anything they charge more than 99$ for....
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  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    Back on topic, I contacted MiniatureMarket about the codes, and they replied:
    The code should be included inside the packaging of the mini. Feel free to reach out should you need additional assistance, and thank you for choosing Miniature Market!

    I pre-ordered two of them (one for me, one for my son). They are $11.29 each, plus $6 S&H for basic shipping for as many as you want to order.

    http://www.miniaturemarket.com/wzk71531-new.html
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