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  • thomaselkinsthomaselkins Member Posts: 573 Arc User
    T6 would be great, but what I really want are remastered models. Each one of those ships looks extremely dated compared to the updated Defiant, Galaxy, Akira, Intrepid, etc.
  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    @Cryptic:

    Ignore ALL Federation requests, and focus finally on the Romulan - and Klingon Factions.
    Those need this, and DESERVE this, to become equal in all with the bloody Federation.

    Thank you.
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  • misterferengi#8959 misterferengi Member Posts: 486 Arc User
    When questioned about bringing the tier 6 Nebula to STO Captain Jean Luc Picard had this to say

  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    kiksken wrote: »
    @Cryptic:

    Ignore ALL Federation requests, and focus finally on the Romulan - and Klingon Factions.
    Those need this, and DESERVE this, to become equal in all with the bloody Federation.

    Thank you.

    If you feel that strongly about it perhaps you should create a thread about it.
  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,051 Arc User
    Ha! "Deserve." Using that term is a good sign someone is asserting a claim to something they are not owed. Never mind the real-world terms for earning and acquiring things. Someone "feels" they "deserve" it, and that's all that matters.
  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    kiksken wrote: »
    @Cryptic:

    Ignore ALL Federation requests, and focus finally on the Romulan - and Klingon Factions.
    Those need this, and DESERVE this, to become equal in all with the bloody Federation.

    Thank you.

    Fact: This is a Star Trek game. Fact: Star Trek has always been 90%+ FEDERATION. Fact: This GAME is 90% Federation. Fact: in canon the Klingons and romulans were always 2nd and 3rd string antagonists, and that's how much effort has been put into them in game. FACT: The devs are creating as much content for the Klingons and Romulans as is FINANCIALLY supported, as they are in this to make money......when Klingons were released as a playable race, they never spiked as a played race taking away from the Federation player base. In the early days of T5 ships being king, when the number of Klingon vs Fed "end game" ships was closer to being the equal, more players spent real money on Fed ships, and Fed content. Same for Romulans. Came out, a lot of people bought into the expansion, a lot of people played through the expansion, and outside of the Romulan packs.....not a lot of money was spent.

    So if you want to blame ANYONE for the Klingon content and Romulan content not being what you consider fair.....you may want to look at the player base, not the game creators? They are in it for money, and as much as a bunch of players are crying for more stuff for the alt factions, those same players never spent near enough money to make it profitable for the game owners.

    We all appreciate new ships, new content, new maps, new whatever.....and that takes money. And fact: by FAR the majority of the money by a LONG shot is from Fed content. And you can (and sounds like you will) knock that since there is less to be bought, of course there is less money.....but there's this thing called metrics. The metrics show that on a PER CAPITA basis, less of the Klingon players and Romulan players spend as much Zen (money) as the equiv Fed player.

    Fact: most of the players that have been here since BEFORE F2P are still here......WE pay the bills. The F2P players come and go and don't raise much dust....or money. If you owned a small business, say an electronics store; who is your more valued customer: the guy who buys $5-$10 every single week on small but profitable stuff? or the guy who keeps coming in complaining that you have 10 times as many of brand X than brand Y, and he only wants brand Y, and he never buys anything?

    If even a fraction of the Klingon or Romulan players owed (i.e. PURCHASED) every Zen ship, or even a large percentage of them....Cryptic would start releasing new content. But they don't. Sit in Kronos orbit, most of what you see there are the free leveled ships, lifetime vet ships, event free ships, etc. YES there are people that bought their fav T5 ship, and then bought a T6 ship, or a bundle. But a LOT of Fed players BOUGHT ships at every level. So they took the free leveled ship, but then spent money on 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 OTHER ships at the level, JUST BECAUSE. I'm sure some dev could run the numbers, but that's the short of it. That's what you see IN GAME.

    Seriously, I have several Klingons chars, several Romulan alts, and in every other Star Trek game going back to Star Fleet Battles board game, I've ALWAYS played the Gorn or the Klingons. In THIS game, I'm fine playing just the Federation, because they made it diverse enough to be fun. And they did throw the Klingons, and Romulans enough content, maps, and story lines that make them fun, unique, distinct, and pleasurable enough to be what they are: the underdogs. And like the underdogs, they have less, are given less opportunities, and will still kick the snot out of a fed player in PVP. Seriously, tell me how often the Feds win in Ker'rat?
  • chozoelder2ndchozoelder2nd Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    T6 would be great, but what I really want are remastered models. Each one of those ships looks extremely dated compared to the updated Defiant, Galaxy, Akira, Intrepid, etc.

    Ever since it started happening, the model revamps are what I look forward to the most. They are phenomenal every single time.
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    T6 would be great, but what I really want are remastered models. Each one of those ships looks extremely dated compared to the updated Defiant, Galaxy, Akira, Intrepid, etc.

    Ever since it started happening, the model revamps are what I look forward to the most. They are phenomenal every single time.

    at this point i will take it even without the model revamp i would not want that to be a reason for taking 837173627 months to get it in game
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  • scarlingscarling Member Posts: 708 Arc User
    I know someone itching for a Sov since the start of T6. Please relieve this person of the stress you caused him. lol
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    T6 would be great, but what I really want are remastered models. Each one of those ships looks extremely dated compared to the updated Defiant, Galaxy, Akira, Intrepid, etc.

    Agreed; as I've stated elsewhere, the Nova class in particular was inaccurate from the onset and look especially dated alongside ship models that have received updates.
  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    i have to wonder.....does anybody smell .....................................T7
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,292 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    geez people. it's October the winter event is just a few weeks away. you are getting your panties in a wad because Cryptic isn't releasing a ship every week. we will get the winter event, MAYBE something in February and the T-6 Sovvy in conjunction with First Contact day
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    it not just any ship its ships that need some love ...that the masses scream for . and how hard is the freaking winter event ??? it the same thing every time just the prizes are different
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,647 Arc User
    Could we please stop the T7 nonsense?​​
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    geez people. it's October the winter event is just a few weeks away. you are getting your panties in a wad because Cryptic isn't releasing a ship every week. we will get the winter event, MAYBE something in February and the T-6 Sovvy in conjunction with First Contact day

    Not the case. I've wanted a T6 Nova since T6 ships became a thing. And was very disappointed that it didn't happen during Delta Rising - seemed like a real missed oportunity to me particuarly since Captain Harry Kim appeared (voiced by Garret Wang himself), in command of the USS Rhode Island - a member of the only other class of Starfleet ship to have been in the Delta Quadrant...... yet the model received no attention whatsoever.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    kiksken wrote: »
    @Cryptic:

    Ignore ALL Federation requests, and focus finally on the Romulan - and Klingon Factions.
    Those need this, and DESERVE this, to become equal in all with the bloody Federation.

    Thank you.

    Not likely.

    When you have devs at the helm of this game that have openly said that they were "Relieved" when the war ended and they would no longer have to do KDF only content. What honestly do you think will happen?

    The only way the KDF and Romulan factions will be getting new ships, is when the Federation does.

    I don't agree with it in the slightest, and would rather all the factions were treated equally..
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,952 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Could we please stop the T7 nonsense?​​

    We need some form of doom thread, if the most obvious ones aren't allowed anymore.
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  • lucianazetalucianazeta Member Posts: 740 Arc User
    T6 Vesta first.
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    T6 Vesta first.

    Nah - whilst not T6, the model is at least relatively new and the T5-U version is still a VERY strong ship. Sorry - I feel that something more dated, such as the Nova or Nebula, should be given priorty.
  • neos472neos472 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    Ever since it started happening, the model revamps are what I look forward to the most. They are phenomenal every single time.

    same here would love to see more ship models brought up to par with today's standards
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  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    Personally think a T6 Nebula would look great with the Andromeda pieces.....
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    neos472 wrote: »
    Ever since it started happening, the model revamps are what I look forward to the most. They are phenomenal every single time.

    same here would love to see more ship models brought up to par with today's standards

    Agreed - they really are superb. And the fact that they usually introduce a new design alongside the revamps (i.e the Pathfinder/Hestia/Andromeda/Valiant etc) is just the icing on the cake.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,952 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    reyan01 wrote: »
    neos472 wrote: »
    Ever since it started happening, the model revamps are what I look forward to the most. They are phenomenal every single time.

    same here would love to see more ship models brought up to par with today's standards

    Agreed - they really are superb. And the fact that they usually introduce a new design alongside the revamps (i.e the Pathfinder/Hestia/Andromeda/Valiant etc) is just the icing on the cake.
    Provided that people like Thomas Marrone that are working on it actually have the spare time, because as I understand it, those revamps are usually not part of the original task of creating the Tier 6 variant. A real shame and we can be very thankful that Cryptic has a lot of dedicated trek fans working on their game.
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    reyan01 wrote: »
    neos472 wrote: »
    Ever since it started happening, the model revamps are what I look forward to the most. They are phenomenal every single time.

    same here would love to see more ship models brought up to par with today's standards

    Agreed - they really are superb. And the fact that they usually introduce a new design alongside the revamps (i.e the Pathfinder/Hestia/Andromeda/Valiant etc) is just the icing on the cake.
    Provided that people like Thomas Marrone that are working on it actually have the spare time, because as I understand it, those revamps are usually not part of the original task of creating the Tier 6 variant. A real shame and we can be very thankful that Cryptic has a lot of dedicated trek fans working on their game.

    Somewhat ironic, then, that those revamped skins seem to be (in many cases) the primary incentive for purchasing the ship in question. I mean, for example, from a personal perspective I for one didn't purchase the T6 Intrepid for the Pathfinder skin, I did so for the lovely revamped Intrepid-class model. And I've hardly ever seen players in Defiant-class ships using the Valiant skin.


    Cryptic/PWE should REALLY take note of that.
  • stostargatewarsstostargatewars Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    Just to let you know the the T6 sovereign Windows/escape pod texture for currently accessible on the existing assault cruiser models on tribble and will most likely be removed on the next patch.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    Just to let you know the the T6 sovereign Windows/escape pod texture for currently accessible on the existing assault cruiser models on tribble and will most likely be removed on the next patch.

    Apologies, but not entirely clear on what you are saying here?
  • daviesdaviesdaviesdavies Member Posts: 277 Arc User
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  • stostargatewarsstostargatewars Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Just to let you know the the T6 sovereign Windows/escape pod texture for currently accessible on the existing assault cruiser models on tribble and will most likely be removed on the next patch.

    Apologies, but not entirely clear on what you are saying here?

    Right now on tribble the updated sovereign class escape pod and window texture most likely done by Thomas can be used on the old sovereign/assault cruiser model.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,349 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Just to let you know the the T6 sovereign Windows/escape pod texture for currently accessible on the existing assault cruiser models on tribble and will most likely be removed on the next patch.

    Apologies, but not entirely clear on what you are saying here?

    Right now on tribble the updated sovereign class escape pod and window texture most likely done by Thomas can be used on the old sovereign/assault cruiser model.

    Updated escape pods and textures tend to suggest model update......

    Pity - yet another cruiser :(:(
  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 389 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Updated escape pods and textures tend to suggest model update......

    Pity - yet another cruiser :(:(
    Agreed. I was hoping that the next round of T6 ships would be science, since that ties in with the Temporal Operative specialization a little better than cruisers or escorts do (and we don't have any T6 Temporal hybrid ships that lack the mechanic yet)
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