Clearly my money's no good around here anymore.

emacsheadroom
emacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
Unless I have an Xbox or PS4. I really want the new Keldon and Dominion Dreadnought, mostly because they look awesome. I'm willing to buy a truckload of zen to get them if their lockboxes are released for the PC version tomorrow. I hear tell that Cryptic expect me to buy a console if I want it badly enough, or take my paltry zen money and go home. Could a Cryptic representative please give an official response to this? I think we'd all appreciate it.
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  • lordsteve1
    lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    I'm fairly sure they will come out on PCs soon enough. The pc is the biggest market and there is absolutely demand for these ships (especially the Keldon) so they aren't going to miss that cash cow.

    Patience is what's required here.
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  • szim
    szim Member Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    You poor, poor, under-appreciated player. Do you really think after so long they would release Dominion ships and a Cardassian ship - even a canon one - for consoles only? STO is being released today (US) or tomorrow (EU) so they want to offer something special and something seemingly unique that will convince more players to check out the console version and give it a try. I guarantee you these ships will come to PC eventually.
  • chozoelder2nd
    chozoelder2nd Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Could a Cryptic representative please give an official response to this?

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    33 minutes into the podcast. As of right now, this is the best you're going to get. I wouldn't worry about it.
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  • ezicstar#2795
    ezicstar#2795 Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    The Dominion dred is already in the game, it has been for a while. I think they're just giving it a new model. I'm sure the other one will be available for lobi in the PC version.
  • davefenestrator
    davefenestrator Member Posts: 9,790 Arc User
    Can I haz ur stuffs?

    If they do release these lock boxes on PC just to keep your business, please remember: DO NOT OPEN LOCK BOXES JUST TO TRY TO GET A SHIP!

    If you just want a ship, sell keys for EC then buy the ship with EC. This offers 100% success for typically much less than even a 50% chance to get a ship by gambling on lock boxes.
  • emacsheadroom
    emacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    szim wrote: »
    You poor, poor, under-appreciated player.

    Oh man, it's called "baiting" for a reason.
    33 minutes into the podcast. As of right now, this is the best you're going to get. I wouldn't worry about it.

    What he's really saying is that the exchange will be universal across PC and console. What you can sell on exchange in the PC client will be buyable on the exchange using the console client, and vice-versa.
  • emacsheadroom
    emacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Can I haz ur stuffs?

    If they do release these lock boxes on PC just to keep your business, please remember: DO NOT OPEN LOCK BOXES JUST TO TRY TO GET A SHIP!

    If you just want a ship, sell keys for EC then buy the ship with EC. This offers 100% success for typically much less than even a 50% chance to get a ship by gambling on lock boxes.

    I like how you assume I'm too dumb to know zen is best exchanged for EC to get the special ships. That kinda makes you the dumb one, doesn't it?
  • flash525
    flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    I think it's fair to say that this new lock box is only being released on console (for the moment at least) to entice console players to buy master keys and get the console exchange stocked with those expensive items. Once Cryptic have made some money, they'll no doubt release the Keldon to the PC playerbase too. It's only a matter of time.
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  • starkaos
    starkaos Member Posts: 11,547 Arc User
    Not releasing these ships to the PC version would be one of the stupidest marketing decisions Cryptic is possible of making. The only reason why Cryptic would do something this stupid, would be some idiotic exclusivity deal made with Microsoft and Sony.
  • flash525
    flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    Not releasing these ships to the PC version would be one of the stupidest marketing decisions Cryptic is possible of making. The only reason why Cryptic would do something this stupid, would be some idiotic exclusivity deal made with Microsoft and Sony.
    I'm pretty sure if there was some sort of exclusive deal made, it would be better than a (re)released Dominion ship and a Keldon.

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  • starkaos
    starkaos Member Posts: 11,547 Arc User
    flash525 wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    Not releasing these ships to the PC version would be one of the stupidest marketing decisions Cryptic is possible of making. The only reason why Cryptic would do something this stupid, would be some idiotic exclusivity deal made with Microsoft and Sony.
    I'm pretty sure if there was some sort of exclusive deal made, it would be better than a (re)released Dominion ship and a Keldon.

    There is the free Tier 1 Steamrunner and Andorian Light Escort for all console users in the first couple of weeks. Time will tell if the Andorian Light Escort will be made available to the others that didn't spend $200 in another Cryptic game or log into the Playstation 4 version.
  • davefenestrator
    davefenestrator Member Posts: 9,790 Arc User
    .Also, when you sell your keys, be sure to buy the credit cap unlock first unless you are a subscriber. That is very important!





    ;)
  • emacsheadroom
    emacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    .Also, when you sell your keys, be sure to buy the credit cap unlock first unless you are a subscriber. That is very important!





    ;)

    Ugh, I am so done with you. :D
  • davefenestrator
    davefenestrator Member Posts: 9,790 Arc User
    The price in EC will be higher when the ship is first released. If you can wait a little while (like a week or two) the price should drop!

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  • mustrumridcully0
    mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,958 Arc User
    There is no mention of exclusitivity in the console announcement. So it's only a matter of time until the lockbox contents arrive on the PC.

    On the PC side we're still in the middle of a lockbox cycle and have a promo running. They won't cut that short.
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  • misterferengi#8959
    misterferengi#8959 Member Posts: 486 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    This is just a selling point with the initial Console release. Its a here you go a nice shiny lockbox to gamble on, winners get a ship you can't use for x amount days until you level up to rank 45. Hand over your money.
    A little bit later, Oh Console isn't doing as well as we thought better put this lockbox on the PC version to cover our costs $$$.
  • flash525
    flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    Also, when you sell your keys, be sure to buy the credit cap unlock first unless you are a subscriber. That is very important!
    Or a (re)subscriber. I'll be amazed if existing subscriptions carry over, even though I think they should do. Looks like I'll be grinding dilithium for a couple of months before I worry about that energy cap.
    This is just a selling point with the initial Console release. Its a here you go a nice shiny lockbox to gamble on, winners get a ship you can't use for x amount days until you level up to rank 45. Hand over your money.
    Knowing how some people will jump into this game, buy a bunch of xp boosts and take the day off work, I can easily see some people achieving level 45 within a day or two - as slightly sad as that is...
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  • nikeix
    nikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    I'm just waiting for the backlash as Cryptic discovers their willful neglect of the travesty that is PvP in this game is maybe something console players are a wee less forgiving of...
  • flash525
    flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    I'm just waiting for the backlash as Cryptic discovers their willful neglect of the travesty that is PvP in this game is maybe something console players are a wee less forgiving of...
    Depending how the skills and powers work for the console version of the game, PvP might be better on consoles.

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  • mustrumridcully0
    mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,958 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    I'm just waiting for the backlash as Cryptic discovers their willful neglect of the travesty that is PvP in this game is maybe something console players are a wee less forgiving of...
    Meh. I don't believe that console players are that different from PC players. Don't get excited and expect any wonders.

    And the travesty that is PvP will only become really apparent once people have full access to all the power creep. Which will take a few weeks.
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  • misterferengi#8959
    misterferengi#8959 Member Posts: 486 Arc User
    flash525 wrote: »
    ]Knowing how some people will jump into this game, buy a bunch of xp boosts and take the day off work, I can easily see some people achieving level 45 within a day or two - as slightly sad as that is...

    Very easy to achieve within a day. And I'd like to see these ships released on PC. I just think a lock box on release of a game where everyone is starting at scratch and can't use until a third of the way through levelling is a little to early. Maybe release it after a fortnight of play and see what the player population is 1st.

    But then I'm not Cryptic's marketing or promotions team (Who should be fired on the spot regarding the Ferengi ship email promotion. Yes I got the ship and am thankful for that, but to also clearly state in the email I also will get the Enterprise J Goodies and a signed copy of the game but NOT INCLUDE ANYWHERE EXCLUSION TERMS in the email or their own website well that's a discussion for a different thread ?)

  • misterferengi#8959
    misterferengi#8959 Member Posts: 486 Arc User

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  • peterconnorfirst
    peterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,223 Arc User
    I just glimpsed and those ship’s stats. Are they even worth a wait?
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  • zuigje010
    zuigje010 Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    All my console friends laugh at this game, I have small hope for Cryptic and PWE making this game a success for console players, I do hope they succeed maybe then we will get a lot more content then 3 PvE queues and few episodes each year.....
  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,511 Arc User
    Agree with what some others are saying here - this box will appear on the PC version sooner or later.

    The console-only thing is likely a 'carrot on a stick' to tempt existing players to create a new account on a console.
  • sylveriarelden
    sylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    "There is no mention of exclusivity..."

    Yeah, there wasn't any mention of this in past events with ships, either. That doesn't rule out the possibility of them being exclusive, however.

    Just because PWE/C doesn't include a disclosure clause at release doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be available at some point to everyone else.
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  • trennan
    trennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    My guess here is they're releasing it on console almost like they did with PC. They're probably starting with just the original story arcs.With the Cardie/Dom boxes being releases. I'd say up to the Breen Arc first. That's what was in when it went F2P.

    Then will probably be temoral and xindi.

    Then they'll probably drop Delta Recruit.

    Then they'll drop the Iconian War.

    Then they'll drop Future Proof.

    Then they'll drop Agents of Yesterday.

    They won't drop all the game at once for console. Each patch will have to be redone. First they need something to work with. This goes back to the original pre-rep era where it ended at the Borg/Breen. Then from here, they'll(hopefully) fumigate the bugs and work to release it bit by bit until console is caught up with PC.

    The main problem here will be PvP. This is big in the console gamers. If they haven't sorted and balanced this, well I'll need to go buy more popcorn when i start reading the forums.
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  • snoggymack22
    snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    CLEARLY MY MONEY'S NO GOOD AROUND HERE ANYMORE.

    To quote D'Angelo Barksdale from The Wire: "Money be green yo!"
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  • jagdtier44
    jagdtier44 Member Posts: 361 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    If the exchange crosses between console and PC than id expect to not see this box on PC. It'll intice people to open the boxes on the consoles and sell the ships to PC players

    Edit: and I'm sure someone from cryptic would of said don't worry its PC as well by now if it was true