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Are the new T6 TOS R&D promo ships OP?

spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I am not much in to comparing stats of all the ships, but they look pretty powerful. Connie has a 1.175 shield mod which is high for that class. Seating is nice where you have the option of cmdr engineering or Temporal agent.

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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    They don't strike me as OP. Just really, really well-rounded.
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  • nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    Maybe we can give people more than an hour to use these before expecting realistic, tested answers. It's just conjecture right now.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    No. The Connie doesn't seem much if any better than a Fleet Arbiter.
  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    Depends on how you look at it, I suppose. The turn rate alone would make a lot of people consider them OP since Cruisers are traditionally under 10, but the boff seating is a double edged sword. If you want a second Sci seat for PH or ST and a second Eng seat for ET or EPtS too bad, all you've got is a LTC instead of a Lt. and Ens like other ships.

    On the flipside, having 3 LTC abilities can be a big plus. And that's not even getting into the specialty seating.
  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    I wouldn't say op, but the pack ships are very very good...
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    It a basic rule that every new ship is always OP, even when it's not. So it was and so it always shall be.
  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    It's op, because it's a connie at t6!
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  • dmb311dmb311 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    someone told me the default layout has phasers set to "salt." Whatever that means, it must be good.
  • dykerasdykeras Member Posts: 326 Arc User
    I main a Rommie and I was getting excited to gamble on getting a new shiney for him to fly... until I read 'Enhanced Battle Cloak' :s
    Only useful if you plan in making a torp boat, otherwise normal Rommie battle cloak is superior, and as I don't use torps... no point getting the ship :-(
  • fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 615 Arc User
    Not at all. Actually rather bland. It's a ship skin a lot of us hoped to have years ago. Other than that, meh.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    dykeras wrote: »
    I main a Rommie and I was getting excited to gamble on getting a new shiney for him to fly... until I read 'Enhanced Battle Cloak' :s
    Only useful if you plan in making a torp boat, otherwise normal Rommie battle cloak is superior, and as I don't use torps... no point getting the ship :-(
    You're going to need to explain your line of thinking here.

    EDIT: Ah, now I understand. you prefer the boosted vape damage bonus. But firing torps while cloaked is really REALLY fun.
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    A little.

    The triple lieutenant commander seating creates some new possibilities. The 7 specialist slots makes the highly specialized ship trait better than ever. The stats are all around best-in-class excellent. And just for variety, the Fed portion of the trio is generally the worst of the bunch, as the Klingon's Intel + battle cloak and Romulan pilot + enhanced battle cloak (shoot while cloaked) are much more exciting than the Command + cruiser buffs Constitution.

    They're not a LOT better than the KT lockbox prize ship & Vengeance, but the power creep IS real.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    They're alright. Not anything to write home about. But I guess for the people who really wanted a T6 Connie, now they get their wish. That, I think, is the real takeaway.

    Not whether or not the ships are particularly OP, but that the end-game Connie actually exists now.​​
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  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    wonder if the konnie and vengeance prices will go down now.
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    The connie with its command seating, reasonable speed and 5/3 loadout makes for a good torp boat.

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  • kostamojenxkostamojenx Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    The K7 with that Intel seat is OP as hell. The Connie is good too, but not as good.
    dykeras wrote: »
    I main a Rommie and I was getting excited to gamble on getting a new shiney for him to fly... until I read 'Enhanced Battle Cloak' :s
    Only useful if you plan in making a torp boat, otherwise normal Rommie battle cloak is superior, and as I don't use torps... no point getting the ship :-(
    Its not just the torpedos that fire while cloaked, but those Temporal skills can be fired while cloaked too! :smiley:

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    A little.

    The triple lieutenant commander seating creates some new possibilities. The 7 specialist slots makes the highly specialized ship trait better than ever. The stats are all around best-in-class excellent. And just for variety, the Fed portion of the trio is generally the worst of the bunch, as the Klingon's Intel + battle cloak and Romulan pilot + enhanced battle cloak (shoot while cloaked) are much more exciting than the Command + cruiser buffs Constitution.

    They're not a LOT better than the KT lockbox prize ship & Vengeance, but the power creep IS real.
    The real kind of power creep - slightly better options, some new possibilities, and after 10 iterations, you got a sizeable difference.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    They stand out a bit as first ships with 3 Lt. Commander boff stations giving the options for unique builds you can’t do on other ships. Still there is nothing OP about it because unique builds are almost never best builds.

    One could argue that we look at the ”best” Klingon faction ship ever released. The others however get too much head start competition already.

    As somebody who got the JJ connie a few weeks back I’m disappointed that the TOS connie has a bit better stats. Still they are hardly as good as to justify it for me to pull the resources to get a promo ship just to replace the lock box one
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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    The Temporal D7 is pretty awesome, but the main selling point of these is that they're faction-specific, iconic designs (and for once, the "iconic" label is warranted). I don't know about OP though, they certainly don't look as utterly paradigm-breaking as the Scimitar and Tempest were when they first appeared.
  • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    The 3 Lt. Cdr. seats are both good and limiting. It limits you to the skills you want to use (healing vs offensive vs defensive buffs).

    They're not really OP in my opinion.

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  • mmps1mmps1 Member Posts: 381 Arc User
    Not OP no. D7 looks like a very fine ship though, easily the best kdf modelled ship you can fly on a Klink.
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  • mas134gluck123mas134gluck123 Member Posts: 302 Arc User
    not very good, they are too great to even be true, 5 weapons at fore, 3 aft and 5 tactical consoles, what more fed player need

    and quite manuverable i like it :)
  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,379 Arc User
    mas134gluck123 wrote: »
    not very good, they are too great to even be true, 5 weapons at fore, 3 aft and 5 tactical consoles, what more fed player need

    and quite manuverable i like it :)

    It's only 4 tactical consoles, even the warbird.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    Assuming the promo packs stay at the current exchange price, and an exchange price of 750 mil when these ships finally hit the exchange, I can get one for roughly 50 bucks plus all the EC my TOS toon has on hand ... the question I have to ask though is, is a single-character T6 Excalibur worth that much to me? I haven't decided yet, but it IS my top favorite ship in the game ... this is tough ...

    If it was Connie only, this would be an easy "thanks, but no thanks" for me, but they granted my wish so to speak and included the Excalibur ...
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  • lopequillopequil Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    mmps1 wrote: »
    Not OP no. D7 looks like a very fine ship though, easily the best kdf modelled ship you can fly on a Klink.

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