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consoles/device slot proposal. small power creep

I don't really know how to go about this but I think it would be awesome to allow some consoles have no passive bounce and are only clickable being allowed to be put in the devices slots. I know there are probably going to be a lot of varying opinions about devices slots but I find them more or less to be useless and having a ship the might have 4 or them is a huge waste of space. I never use consumables cuase don't need them dont find they add anything I need and or are boring. There are also a lot of universal consoles that are clickable functions that are kind of useless to waste a consoles on because they add no passive buff but would add a lot more diversity to the game if there was adequate space to put them in.
Suggestion for Consoles that would be allowed in the devices slot would be
Console - Universal - Grappler
Console - Universal - Resonance Cascade Modulator
Console - Universal - Enhanced Plasma Manifold
Console - Universal - Ionized Gas Sensor
Console - Universal - Impulse Capacitance Cell
Console - Universal - Photonic Displacer
Console - Universal - Temporal Destabilization Probe
Console - Universal - Warp Burst Capacitor
Console - Universal - M6 Computer
Console - Universal - Tachyon Detection Field
Console - Universal - Temporal Destabilizer Matrix
Console - Universal - Metreon Gas Canisters
Console - Universal - Nadion Saturation Bomb
Console - Universal - Photonic Decoy Beacon
Console - Universal - Aquarius Escort
Console - Universal - Chevron Separation
Console - Universal - Work Bees
Console - Universal - Aceton Assimilator
Console - Universal - Graviton Pulse Generator
Console - Universal - Isometric Charge
Console - Universal - Plasmonic Leech ( maybe. really not sure about this one to add in this list)
Enhanced Maneuvering Thrusters
Console - Universal - Repair Platform
Console - Universal - Subspace Jumper
Console - Universal - Theta Radiation Vents
Console - Universal - Alpha Deception Field
Console - Universal - Fluidic Phase Decoupler
Console - Universal - Spatial Charge Launcher
Console - Universal - Subspace Integration Circuit


Would like to know anyones thoughts on this. Pros to me it would add more options and diversity, add a propuse to seldom used devices slots.
Cons it would add a bit of a power creep.

Or alternatively remove them from being consoles altogether and have them only be able to be out in device slots . Most of these seem to fit the definition of what a device would be since you are activating something to make it work and do a function.
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  • fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    You know, a couple years ago I'd say, "no way, this is just more powercreep".

    Now, it wouldn't matter lol.
  • spacebaronlinespacebaronline Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
    Why not. Problem is some ships have 4 and some only 2
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    Why not. Problem is some ships have 4 and some only 2

    Yeah. How big of a difference would that really make though? maybe set a limit so that at most only two or 3 of them can be. I think at least all t6 ships have a min of 3 don't they?

    To be honest I mostly only want this for the Console - Universal - Aquarius Escort. to RP with the mission pod detaching sometimes. Its a useless Console to slot on over any other real Console.

    but I do think it would be overall neat to to utilize some of those listed above in a more none sacrificing way. Aside from the Console - Universal - Subspace Integration Circuit. the rest are boardline mediocre or useless to put on a ship
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    Would be interested what @crypticrock thinks about this or i it would be dumb
  • crypticrockcrypticrock Member Posts: 120 Cryptic Developer
    Well, I think it's certainly an interesting suggestion. Shifts the "cost" to equip a ship's unique console from the Consoles to Devices, which tend to have less of a stat impact, letting consoles focus on giving stat benefits. Certainly not something we'd want to do piece-meal though, and would require changing the underlying item type of these consoles -- not exactly a flip of a switch.
    *disclaimer*
    I'm not saying this is going to happen. Just that I think this is an intriguing suggestion for one way to approach the issue of older ship-specific consoles having no passive stat boosts.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,510 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    Some of them could be, however, any that give a set bonus such as the Aquarius, no chance, and it would be the same for Leech.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    I would be for many of those, but as leemwatson said, not the ones that contribute to set bonuses. There are several in there that I use myself and they're not totally useless.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • meurikmeurik Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I don't really know how to go about this but I think it would be awesome to allow some consoles have no passive bounce and are only clickable being allowed to be put in the devices slots. I know there are probably going to be a lot of varying opinions about devices slots but I find them more or less to be useless and having a ship the might have 4 or them is a huge waste of space. I never use consumables cuase don't need them dont find they add anything I need and or are boring. There are also a lot of universal consoles that are clickable functions that are kind of useless to waste a consoles on because they add no passive buff but would add a lot more diversity to the game if there was adequate space to put them in.
    Suggestion for Consoles that would be allowed in the devices slot would be
    Console - Universal - Grappler
    Console - Universal - Resonance Cascade Modulator
    Console - Universal - Enhanced Plasma Manifold
    Console - Universal - Ionized Gas Sensor
    Console - Universal - Impulse Capacitance Cell
    Console - Universal - Photonic Displacer
    Console - Universal - Temporal Destabilization Probe
    Console - Universal - Warp Burst Capacitor
    Console - Universal - M6 Computer
    Console - Universal - Tachyon Detection Field
    Console - Universal - Temporal Destabilizer Matrix
    Console - Universal - Metreon Gas Canisters
    Console - Universal - Nadion Saturation Bomb
    Console - Universal - Photonic Decoy Beacon
    Console - Universal - Aquarius Escort
    Console - Universal - Chevron Separation
    Console - Universal - Work Bees
    Console - Universal - Aceton Assimilator
    Console - Universal - Graviton Pulse Generator
    Console - Universal - Isometric Charge
    Console - Universal - Plasmonic Leech ( maybe. really not sure about this one to add in this list)
    Enhanced Maneuvering Thrusters
    Console - Universal - Repair Platform
    Console - Universal - Subspace Jumper
    Console - Universal - Theta Radiation Vents
    Console - Universal - Alpha Deception Field
    Console - Universal - Fluidic Phase Decoupler
    Console - Universal - Spatial Charge Launcher
    Console - Universal - Subspace Integration Circuit


    Would like to know anyones thoughts on this. Pros to me it would add more options and diversity, add a propuse to seldom used devices slots.
    Cons it would add a bit of a power creep.

    Or alternatively remove them from being consoles altogether and have them only be able to be out in device slots . Most of these seem to fit the definition of what a device would be since you are activating something to make it work and do a function.

    Frankly, I'd add the Cloaking Device to this list. It's literally a DEVICE. It's certainly not a "console". Same goes for the Ablative Hull Armor generator from the Intrepid.
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  • megacharge07megacharge07 Member Posts: 476 Arc User
    A most excellent suggestion/idea. Will be keeping an eye on this thread.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    Yeah it doesn't have its flaws but could use some good brainstorming

    @crypticrock you guys could start with the like the Cloaking Device and Aquarius Escort Console , Ablative Hull Armor generator from the Intrepid ect.. Whatever ones come with ships that don't add states
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    No one is asking for set bonus with them. And Plasmonic wasn't a serious consideration.
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