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Interesting, but I'm curious as to what this is leading up to.
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1)They're doing it because they just dropped a major expansion and (presumably) just got a major influx of new players.
2)They're about to lead into the next major arc, since we've now played out 'future proof' and shat on "The Envoy's" party
Interesting.
Hoping it means they're taking a more "universal" view of the storylines and will be giving some more attention to the neglected factions (since they even bothered to mention them) storylines now.
Or perhaps it's just a lead-in to dropping the faction system completely and now it's all "Starfleet Online".
Time will tell, I suppose.
Being critical doesn't take skill. Being constructively critical- which is providing alternative solutions or suggestions to a demonstrated problem, however, does.
you didn't actually pay much attention to the plots did you? plenty of holes left
WE SHOULD HAVE LET HIM SLEEP
I think it would be easy to keep developing this game. There is only a tiny fraction of the Delta Quadrant explored and they could always expand on that. There were races mentioned in Voyager that we never got to see, so Cryptic can take some creative liberty and develop them. There are also other canon species in the Delta Quadrant which have yet to be added to the game.
We have yet to visit the Gamma Quadrant in detail either. I figured the game was setting up for it, since we know New Khitomer is in the Gamma Quadrant. Considering how important it is in the future, it would be interesting for us to chart it for the first time in the present.
Potential holes which have yet to be explored include T'Ket. She's still out there and refused to give up her desire for vengeance. I'm sure we have not seen the last of her. Sela is also still out there, since she managed to slip away at the end of the war. We have no clue as to whether or not she would still be an enemy, but is it ever a good idea to let Sela out of our sight for too long? During the Dominion attack on Facility 4028, James Fadi Mehra managed to escape. He's a human Augment who leads "The Children of Khan". It's probably best to assume he's a threat.
If I'm not mistaken, Mirror Leeta is still out there. She was one of the few enemies at the end of the Temporal War to survive and retreat. I doubt the Terran Empire has stopped being a threat. I always wondered how the Undine were going to play a role in the future. The sentient bioship believed that together we would be stronger and it took Cooper. It said Cooper was going to be re-purposed, but the Undine never did assist in the conflict against the Iconians. So what exactly are they doing? I believe we'll be seeing the Undine again.
You mentioned the Hur'q already and I believe it was theorized that they had a connection to the Iconians. They never appeared during the war itself, but if T'Ket is still out there then she could have the Hur'q at her disposal. It's also worth mentioning that there was an active Iconian Gateway network in the Andromeda galaxy. Perhaps T'Ket has returned there to plot her next move? After the Gamma Quadrant is added to the Milky Way, we could always take a trip to Andromeda. This opens up all kinds of exploration opportunities, as well as conflicts with whatever civilizations live there. We've already met the Kelvan species, so making official contact with their government would be interesting.
I wouldn't give up on this game yet.
also thomaslekins you have totally ignored out that somtaawkhar was talking about Klingon/romulan plotlines plotholes - and you went up with unfinished businesses of SHARED plotline as an arument to him, how lot of plotholes are there
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
But they left an interesting plot hook for future adventures with the Hur'q DNA and the same is true of Sela and various plots, she's still a hook, but ever plotline she's been in has been resolved, but she is capable of making fresh mischief, same with Admiral Leeta.
I have it on super secret authority that this is just a reaction to all of the postings recently involving forum goers' unique headcanon. Crytpic is trying to reinforce the idea that in STO, their headcanon trumps the collective playerbase headcanon. It got lost along the way with everyone believing their own genius through the foundry. This is their way of saying "HEY! Your imagination is cool and all and I'm a let you finish, but ... here's the ACTUAL story so far for REAL and TRUE STO fans."
#yourheadcanonmatters #notreally
And for you republic haters out there the story so far includes the Romulan Republic.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
They don't make good villains becuase they are ALL POWERFUL.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Just a pet peeve of mine, but plot holes are where the writers screws up and contradicts themselves in such a way that no rational in-universe explanation can be found to explain it.
There's plenty of options to explore, the Terrans are still around as is Sela and her Dominion allies. We've also got the ultra powerful Borg floating around (although given how the plot has gone those ultra powerful Borg are actually just the ones we saw in the TV shows whereas the game ones were dealing with were inferior).
But that's my point. We've only been to what Voyager had already explored. It's time to go outside of that area and start cataloging the rest of the Delta Quadrant they weren't able to. Technically it could be said that our dealings with the Vaadwaur aren't over. We might have ended our conflict with them originally when we discovered they were being controlled by the Iconians, but what happens to them now? They're still a militaristic people who once ruled a large section of the Delta Quadrant. I can't imagine they just quietly walk away.
This doesn't mean we have to necessarily be in conflict with them either, I'd just like to return to the Delta Quadrant and find out how things are going post-Iconian War. The Voth are another group worth exploring after they tucked their tails between their legs and retreated. Are we still in conflict or can we make real peace? I say we go and find out.
I don't think that's how PvE works. Playing a PvE mission is like playing a campaign mission: It only happens once in the canon and replays are just replays and nothing actually new. The Iconian PvE missions exist when we were at war with them. When you replay them, you're not continuing the fight against T'Ket, you're just replaying an old mission from that war. T'Ket herself is still out there and she can return whenever they want to bring her back.
A murderous criminal is still on the loose. It would be dumb to just forget about it, which means they could still come back to it when they wrap up the current conflict.
We really don't know what they're up to. I wouldn't rule them out returning in the future. Personally I would like to know what the bioship meant when it said it would re-purpose Cooper.
You can't know that for sure, no one can. The exact line in the game is "Gateways in Andromeda active!" It doesn't single out a specific installation, it just mentions the galaxy itself.
Which could guarantee more stories to be told.
Which is interesting because they've created new species before, such as the Defari. I never said it was their job to keep doing this, but if they want to continue supporting the game then I don't believe it's impossible for them to create more species in the future. Even the canon species that they've had access too received quite a bit of original backstory from them in order to fit them into the game. The Elachi for example appeared on Enterprise once and we learned absolutely nothing about them in that episode. Cryptic was able to take what we did know and then add to that in order to flesh them out a lot more. They gave them more ship designs, created unique architecture for their species, fleshed out their military and gave them different types of units and then connected them to the Iconians. If they can do that, then surely they can flesh out other lesser known civilizations.
The Fen Domar for example are a canon species native to the Delta Quadrant. They encountered and battled the USS Voyager in an alternate timeline. Admiral Janeway would change the timeline and get the Voyager home faster than they should have been so this species has yet to be encountered. This is a species Cryptic could bring to life, if they wanted.
I'm aware of this, but that's no excuse for never talking to them ever again. We could always ask the Vaadwaur if they require any assistance. Major powers in the Delta Quadrant have suffered heavy losses and while the Delta Alliance exists, it doesn't mean they've brought peace to the quadrant. If they were to introduce a new threat to the region, such as the Fen Domar mentioned above, then they could challenge this Alliance and prove too much for them. This would easily bring us back into the story. Asking former enemies, like the Vaadwaur and Voth, for help could be interesting.
It's not that hard to come up with ideas like this. Just use your imagination.
No what? I said the Voth had tucked their tails between their legs and ran away. I said it would be interesting to make contact with them again and see what they've been up too since then. The Voth weren't exterminated or anything so making contact with them again isn't impossible.
When and where did they say this? You may want to provide some evidence because I'm not just going to take your word for it. How exactly would it give explanation for the queues anyway? They were added when the war began, not after. Descriptions for those maps don't make any direct reference to T'Ket attacking post-war, they only reference Iconions invading. Sounds like they take place during the war to me. All PvE maps are like that. Why else would some maps still include Federation vs the Klingon Empire when that war is also over?
Poor example. A lot of instances where the TV series never returned to explore an idea further have been picked up and explored by Star Trek Online. The majority of this entire game consists of unfinished story threads from the TV series. I don't see why you would assume they have no intention of revisiting something in their game just because they haven't done it yet. Perhaps they did stick him on the back burner for a while and don't have any immediate plans for him in the near future, but the fact that that thread remains unresolved means that they can come back to it whenever they feel they are ready to tell his story.
This is an assumption, not fact. Tuvok and the Bioship specifically discussed unity and how the Iconians will destroy them because divided they are weak. The Bioship says that together we are strong and then tells Cooper it will re-purpose him for some reason. This is something that hasn't been developed further and I believe they could return to this if they desired.
Another assumption. You don't know this for sure. That line says "Gateways in Andromeda active" which means it could include other gateways throughout the galaxy. I say it's just vague enough to mean that Cryptic can explore it further if they choose.
I don't see why you seem so intent on being close minded on all of this.
You hate people with imaginations? Seriously, if people didn't have a desire to continue the narrative then Star Trek would have died with TOS. What's wrong with looking at the little details and wanting to know if we'll ever revisit them?
"Cryptic said this!" "Cryptic said that!"
Sure, sure. I'll believe it when you post the Dev post where they said so.
Except, you know, for that one species that did.
Yeah sure. Remember when the Romulans didn't want anything to do with the Federation and so they disappeared, never to be seen again? Oh wait, that didn't happen. Neither did the Klingons or Dominion never return. Just because we ended this current conflict with them, it does not mean we will never ever see them again. It would be incredibly asinine to think so.
I'm still waiting for a link to one of those forum or twitter posts.
Oh I can grasp that just fine. I never once said they had to do anything, only that certain plot threads are open enough that they can return to them if they so choose. You on the other hand seem to think that they can't, simply because you say so.
So we'll just close our minds and ignore the whole "Together we are strong" stuff? Sure, whatever.
The only one inserting headcanon into anything is you. I've repeatedly said that these are story threads that Cryptic could reopen if they chose to. It's not headcanon that The Children of Khan are still out there, it's fact. Even if Cryptic doesn't have plans for them anytime soon, that doesn't change the fact they are still out there and useable for a future episode if or when Cryptic decides they are finally ready to tell that story.
I'm sorry, but I'm not close minded enough to assume the game is finished. There are lots of stories that can still be told. If there weren't then all of Star Trek, (or any franchise for that matter), would be dead and gone already.
Umm actually there was a TNG episode where a sexy alien with a picard fetish and an advanced holo-emitter did take the form of Fek'lhr... we don't know that this was the actual form but worf had no problem callin it out.
That's Fek'lhr. I'm talking about the Fek'Ihri themselves. They were mentioned once and never seen until STO.