I wonder, how many folks that got the "prize", have their credit card info saved on their ARC account?
I don't, but perhaps that's one of the criteria??
OH good lord. You would have to be an IDOIT to trust this company with your credit card info.
True, but it could be part of the selection criteria.
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I wonder, how many folks that got the "prize", have their credit card info saved on their ARC account?
I don't, but perhaps that's one of the criteria??
That's a very good question. But with a quickshot-vague-consolation-statement like 'to a select group of players' it could be pretty much anything for that matter. I guess it's just one of those standard-PR-emergency-answers for being confronted with something.
Yep as far as Promotions good this is %100 fail and really stupid idea that was certain to alienate 95% of the community.
If it was you get one for say spending $1,000 , I wouldn't qualify, but I know the rules and I'd be fine by that.
But this weird unfair secret promotion which appears to be the only way to get it, turns me right off, more for other people who have contributed far more to this game then I have $ wise, who got a massive slap to the face.
I wonder, how many folks that got the "prize", have their credit card info saved on their ARC account?
I don't, but perhaps that's one of the criteria??
OH good lord. You would have to be an IDOIT to trust this company with your credit card info.
people trust facebook with their legal names, phone numbers, addresses and the ability to tell everyone everywhere exactly when/were they are at various times.... so... there are plenty of idiots to go round for cryptic
It's a fail indeed. IMO giving it to *every* player with either LTS or Gold-subscription for at least Veteran-Status would have been... somewhat fair. A token for the support.
I haven't received e-mails from PWE in years also. As a Lifer since the head start phase, I am a bit curious to know what the criteria is to get the ship and the swag.
what if they keep that secret.... only the few will know
I've supported Cryptic since the original pre-launch, I paid upfront for the very first ever lifetime subscription when naysayers were telling me I was throwing away my money.
Where's the reward for my faith and loyalty?
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Update: A representative for PWE issued the following statement to Massively OP in regard to these ships: “The gold-plated T6 Ferengi ship was sent out to a select group of players as part of an e-mail specific promotion. Unfortunately we aren’t able to reveal any additional information, as it goes against our policy to protect the privacy of our community members.”
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Update: A representative for PWE issued the following statement to Massively OP in regard to these ships: “The gold-plated T6 Ferengi ship was sent out to a select group of players as part of an e-mail specific promotion. Unfortunately we aren’t able to reveal any additional information, as it goes against our policy to protect the privacy of our community members.”
So no comment for hours and then when they do comment they say absolutely nothing.... figures.
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Update: A representative for PWE issued the following statement to Massively OP in regard to these ships: “The gold-plated T6 Ferengi ship was sent out to a select group of players as part of an e-mail specific promotion. Unfortunately we aren’t able to reveal any additional information, as it goes against our policy to protect the privacy of our community members.”
So no comment for hours and then when they do comment they say absolutely nothing.... figures.
why was no information released on promotion?
promotion Hmmm giving away a ship cost TRIBBLE $$
I believe in US we have laws about promotions!
Who paid that Tax's on that?
Goodness I've spent well over $5000.00 on this game in the last six years...
Nothing has come my way.
hummmmnn....
I've spent close to 3k in 2 years and have not received an email. Only about 940 of that though is through ARC the rest is through Steam. I wonder if they are not counting Steam transactions?
Does anyone know (unlikely but maybe a Cryptic/PWE mod can chime in) whether the Enterprise F swag mentioned in the promo email is U.S Residents only or whether it will be posted internationally ?
"Hey do you think we should put out a release letting people know they've been chosen randomly out of Facebook likes?"
"Nah, let's keep em pulling out their credit cards, thinking If I just spent a little more I'll get something..."
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Update: A representative for PWE issued the following statement to Massively OP in regard to these ships: “The gold-plated T6 Ferengi ship was sent out to a select group of players as part of an e-mail specific promotion. Unfortunately we aren’t able to reveal any additional information, as it goes against our policy to protect the privacy of our community members.”
So no comment for hours and then when they do comment they say absolutely nothing.... figures.
why was no information released on promotion?
promotion Hmmm giving away a ship cost **** $$
I believe in US we have laws about promotions!
Who paid that Tax's on that?
not high enough dollar worth on physical goods. And value of ship is 0 since it can't be traded. the promotion laws vary state by state
Does anyone know (unlikely but maybe a Cryptic/PWE mod can chime in) whether the Enterprise F swag mentioned in the promo email is U.S Residents only or whether it will be posted internationally ?
That's very likely U.S only. Don't quote me on it, but I very much doubt they would fork out for international shipping. No one really does that these days, not with the way they TRIBBLE you on import charges.
Does anyone know (unlikely but maybe a Cryptic/PWE mod can chime in) whether the Enterprise F swag mentioned in the promo email is U.S Residents only or whether it will be posted internationally ?
That's very likely U.S only. Don't quote me on it, but I very much doubt they would fork out for international shipping. No one really does that these days, not with the way they **** you on import charges.
I'll ticket support as well to try to get a def answer on this one but i'm cool if it's U.S only, i understand if its no international shipping.
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Update: A representative for PWE issued the following statement to Massively OP in regard to these ships: “The gold-plated T6 Ferengi ship was sent out to a select group of players as part of an e-mail specific promotion. Unfortunately we aren’t able to reveal any additional information, as it goes against our policy to protect the privacy of our community members.”
Welp, there you have it. lol. Not even disappointed anymore. That's pretty funny.
Checkmate PWE.
Well, I can't say I ever expected them to reveal the rationale behind the choices to begin with. They never do.
When ppl got ships for not participating enough, the loyal Captains got upset, as they felt they were the ones who should have been rewarded instead. Looks like that's exactly what PWE did, this time: reward the loyal customers. And now other loyal customers are upset for not having gotten a ship too. I know you're thinking I'm taking this into a "Damned if they do, damned if they don't" direction; but no. Rather I'm saying that playing favorites amongst the playerbase (when the results are public) is rarely a good idea. I hope, in the future, they find a way of doing such promotions without alienating the rest of the players; cuz clearly this isn't WAI.
Does anyone know (unlikely but maybe a Cryptic/PWE mod can chime in) whether the Enterprise F swag mentioned in the promo email is U.S Residents only or whether it will be posted internationally ?
That's very likely U.S only. Don't quote me on it, but I very much doubt they would fork out for international shipping. No one really does that these days, not with the way they **** you on import charges.
Like I said, I live in the Netherlands, and they promised to send me the swag box too. So that can't be it.
I did consider that it might be for completeing the "Artifact hunter" for the Ferengi on Risa but I completed that achievement, you find 4 ot 5 bits that says something as been unlocked on your account, but thhre was nothing and i didn't get a code so it can't be that.
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Update: A representative for PWE issued the following statement to Massively OP in regard to these ships: “The gold-plated T6 Ferengi ship was sent out to a select group of players as part of an e-mail specific promotion. Unfortunately we aren’t able to reveal any additional information, as it goes against our policy to protect the privacy of our community members.”
Welp, there you have it. lol. Not even disappointed anymore. That's pretty funny.
Checkmate PWE.
Well, I can't say I ever expected them to reveal the rationale behind the choices to begin with. They never do.
When ppl got ships for not participating enough, the loyal Captains got upset, as they felt they were the ones who should have been rewarded instead. Looks like that's exactly what PWE did, this time: reward the loyal customers. And now other loyal customers are upset for not having gotten a ship too. I know you're thinking I'm taking this into a "Damned if they do, damned if they don't" direction; but no. Rather I'm saying that playing favorites amongst the playerbase (when the results are public) is rarely a good idea. I hope, in the future, they find a way of doing such promotions without alienating the rest of the players; cuz clearly this isn't WAI.
When Blizzard did something similar, they announced the criteria BEFORE it went out, and that criteria was to be a sub from day 1 without any lapse, which was fair imo. But not announcing it, sending stuff to a select group of players with an email suggesting they are the only players to have shown unwavering support, and only making a statement to say "we can't tell you the criteria" is amazingly poor decision making, and insulting to many players who have supported this game since day one.
Yep as far as Promotions good this is %100 fail and really stupid idea that was certain to alienate 95% of the community.
If it was you get one for say spending $1,000 , I wouldn't qualify, but I know the rules and I'd be fine by that.
But this weird unfair secret promotion which appears to be the only way to get it, turns me right off, more for other people who have contributed far more to this game then I have $ wise, who got a massive slap to the face.
This is a guide on how not to run a promotion.
This is my feeling exactly. Spending $1000 in the last YEAR is in no way "unwavering support". That just means someone ran up a credit card in the last 12 months. What about the 7 years BEFORE? This is a horrible marketing effort. If people got the ship who haven't been subscribers from pre-release then I would argue they've been given out under false pretenses. "Unwavering support"? To the players with the biggest limit on their credit card, more like...
Don't rage against the strawman. Seriously, everything about the promotion criteria has been nothing but pure speculation. We have no idea whether it's spending $1,000 in the last year, or whether it's a more statistical show of support over time. Or whether any amount of money spent plays even into it. We simply don't know.
Yep as far as Promotions good this is %100 fail and really stupid idea that was certain to alienate 95% of the community.
If it was you get one for say spending $1,000 , I wouldn't qualify, but I know the rules and I'd be fine by that.
But this weird unfair secret promotion which appears to be the only way to get it, turns me right off, more for other people who have contributed far more to this game then I have $ wise, who got a massive slap to the face.
This is a guide on how not to run a promotion.
This is my feeling exactly. Spending $1000 in the last YEAR is in no way "unwavering support". That just means someone ran up a credit card in the last 12 months. What about the 7 years BEFORE? This is a horrible marketing effort. If people got the ship who haven't been subscribers from pre-release then I would argue they've been given out under false pretenses. "Unwavering support"? To the players with the biggest limit on their credit card, more like...
Don't rage against the strawman. Seriously, everything about the promotion criteria has been nothing but pure speculation. We have no idea whether it's spending $1,000 in the last year, or whether it's a more statistical show of support over time. Or whether any amount of money spent plays even into it. We simply don't know.
It sounds like you're saying they gave you a free ship for no reason at all. There has to be a reason for it, and it seems strange they wouldn't give a reason to the people who received the ship at least. I could understand if you weren't allowed to say what the reason was, but it just doesn't make sense that you don't even know why you got it, which makes it seem more arbitrary and furthers speculation.
It sounds like you're saying they gave you a free ship for no reason at all. There has to be a reason for it, and it seems strange they wouldn't give a reason to the people who received the ship at least. I could understand if you weren't allowed to say what the reason was, but it just doesn't make sense that you don't even know why you got it, which makes it seem more arbitrary and furthers speculation.
Sounds like I'm saying they may well have criteria for handing out ships, but that we simply don't know what those are.
Please, don't say me you are all grown up men.
Because this "I have been playing longer and spent more money"-post-competition in this thread for virtual pixels is just ridiculous childish.
If this is the backbone of Cryptic's community, then they are really lucky. I wished I had such freaking out customers arguing about who paid me more and is most loyal because of a lousy promotion LOL.
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True, but it could be part of the selection criteria.
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That's a very good question. But with a quickshot-vague-consolation-statement like 'to a select group of players' it could be pretty much anything for that matter. I guess it's just one of those standard-PR-emergency-answers for being confronted with something.
If it was you get one for say spending $1,000 , I wouldn't qualify, but I know the rules and I'd be fine by that.
But this weird unfair secret promotion which appears to be the only way to get it, turns me right off, more for other people who have contributed far more to this game then I have $ wise, who got a massive slap to the face.
This is a guide on how not to run a promotion.
people trust facebook with their legal names, phone numbers, addresses and the ability to tell everyone everywhere exactly when/were they are at various times.... so... there are plenty of idiots to go round for cryptic
It's a fail indeed. IMO giving it to *every* player with either LTS or Gold-subscription for at least Veteran-Status would have been... somewhat fair. A token for the support.
what if they keep that secret.... only the few will know
Where's the reward for my faith and loyalty?
Welp, there you have it. lol. Not even disappointed anymore. That's pretty funny.
Checkmate PWE.
So no comment for hours and then when they do comment they say absolutely nothing.... figures.
See the list I posted. Bunch of challenged people on it.
why was no information released on promotion?
promotion Hmmm giving away a ship cost TRIBBLE $$
I believe in US we have laws about promotions!
Who paid that Tax's on that?
I've spent close to 3k in 2 years and have not received an email. Only about 940 of that though is through ARC the rest is through Steam. I wonder if they are not counting Steam transactions?
"Hey do you think we should put out a release letting people know they've been chosen randomly out of Facebook likes?"
"Nah, let's keep em pulling out their credit cards, thinking If I just spent a little more I'll get something..."
Being critical doesn't take skill. Being constructively critical- which is providing alternative solutions or suggestions to a demonstrated problem, however, does.
Nothing to see here.
not high enough dollar worth on physical goods. And value of ship is 0 since it can't be traded. the promotion laws vary state by state
That's very likely U.S only. Don't quote me on it, but I very much doubt they would fork out for international shipping. No one really does that these days, not with the way they TRIBBLE you on import charges.
I'll ticket support as well to try to get a def answer on this one but i'm cool if it's U.S only, i understand if its no international shipping.
Well, I can't say I ever expected them to reveal the rationale behind the choices to begin with. They never do.
When ppl got ships for not participating enough, the loyal Captains got upset, as they felt they were the ones who should have been rewarded instead. Looks like that's exactly what PWE did, this time: reward the loyal customers. And now other loyal customers are upset for not having gotten a ship too. I know you're thinking I'm taking this into a "Damned if they do, damned if they don't" direction; but no. Rather I'm saying that playing favorites amongst the playerbase (when the results are public) is rarely a good idea. I hope, in the future, they find a way of doing such promotions without alienating the rest of the players; cuz clearly this isn't WAI.
Like I said, I live in the Netherlands, and they promised to send me the swag box too. So that can't be it.
When Blizzard did something similar, they announced the criteria BEFORE it went out, and that criteria was to be a sub from day 1 without any lapse, which was fair imo. But not announcing it, sending stuff to a select group of players with an email suggesting they are the only players to have shown unwavering support, and only making a statement to say "we can't tell you the criteria" is amazingly poor decision making, and insulting to many players who have supported this game since day one.
Don't rage against the strawman.
It sounds like you're saying they gave you a free ship for no reason at all. There has to be a reason for it, and it seems strange they wouldn't give a reason to the people who received the ship at least. I could understand if you weren't allowed to say what the reason was, but it just doesn't make sense that you don't even know why you got it, which makes it seem more arbitrary and furthers speculation.
Sounds like I'm saying they may well have criteria for handing out ships, but that we simply don't know what those are.
Well I think that settles it for me. Damn, I probably could have had it if I hadn't turned off that setting.
Because this "I have been playing longer and spent more money"-post-competition in this thread for virtual pixels is just ridiculous childish.
If this is the backbone of Cryptic's community, then they are really lucky. I wished I had such freaking out customers arguing about who paid me more and is most loyal because of a lousy promotion LOL.
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