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Temporal Probes Don't Show Up On Tricorders?
thlaylierah
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Why?
Is it supposed to be fun to search for them because it's not.
Is it supposed to be fun to search for them because it's not.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/4ro6d0/temporal_orb_locations_minor_exploration_puzzle/
Most maps are fine, but the big ones like Kuva'magh and Doomsday Weapon are anti-fun on toast without this list.
Why would they not link them to the Tricorder scan?
I'm pretty sure the Delta recruit nodes were locatable by Tricorder.
My character Tsin'xing
Are you just copy-pasting this and spamming it in all the threads complaining about this terrible system? Your little system for finding a probe only works if you're already on top of it. The problem arises when the probe is not nearby and is merely "somewhere on the map" - or, in some cases that the game tells you absolutely nothing about, not on the map at all.
If it's so they can deliver those little games well they are not fun either.
They should have just plugged them into the Delta Recruit nodes that were already there.
Except in Kuva'magh, where scanning leads you to the injured npcs that you can heal for an accolade.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
It's suspiciously like exploration.
Because those injured people aren't NPCs, they're an object. The difference between an NPC and an object in terms of the game is that you just interact with objects by hitting F, but you can "talk" to NPCs. That dialog can be actual talking, or you can use the dialog to have a console provide information, or do an interactive puzzle, or whatever you want. Foundry authors frequently create an NPC, then have them wear the "costume" of a console so you can have an interactive "conversation" with it. Delta probes were just an interact that would trigger a popup, but Temporal probes are actually interactive with a minigame and multiple dialog choices, so they have to technically be an NPC.
Maybe a better way for Cryptic to handle this would've been to have the actual probe you're looking for be an object, and when you interact on that object it triggers an invisible NPC to spawn that you could then "talk" to and complete the objective. You already have to do two steps anyway since you first have to scan the chronal distortion, then talk to the probe. It almost makes me think it was done on purpose to make it more challenging, but on a big open map it's just frustrating.
That's not the same as "already on top of it".
My character Tsin'xing
"Okay, here's a thing where you have to explore the map and then solve a puzzle to get the reward. And sometimes you have to fight someone, but not that often."
"AAAH! Why can't I just use the tricorder to find things for me and then shoot them open instead of solving some dumb puzzle?"
Without knowing that I went through twice going everywhere reasonable without finding it. Both times it was NOT near any: enemy group, spacial charge, injured colonist, crate, resource node. I guessed it failed to spawn from a game bug, like Hassan the Undying's ship sometimes never appears at the end of the Nimbus arc.
I finally found it on the third attempt.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Scans can find a crate with banana pancakes in it. Scans can find consoles you need to click on. You are a Temporal Agent, so why wouldn't you carry a Temporal Tricorder? You definitely have non-standard tools if you can unshield and decrypt the probes.
And the puzzles to unlock them aren't terribly difficult either. But I'm a puzzle-lover, so that makes it easier.
My character Tsin'xing
Was trying to help. No need to get so worked up over this. But I can take a hint. Next time you need some help with something - go ask someone else. If you are not capable of using the tools within the game correctly to successfuly accomplish something this simple, then STO may not be the game for you. If the complexities of moving yourself around the map and investigating the things which apear in sensor range are more than you can bear or they try your patience to the point where you snap like this in public, then again, STO may not be the game for you.
But do not dispair! There are lots of games on the InterWebs which might be just the ticket. I suggest you rush right out to your Facebook page and check out the offering from those fine purveyors of InterWebs entertainment known as Zynga. I am quite sure there are one or more of their titles where you can sit in front of the keyboard in sloth like splendor without having to do a single thing other than mashing the space bar a few times a minute.
Again, I was just trying to help by offering a solution to the most vexing problem currently known to Mankind
Yeah, I think I thought I found it and interacted with it. Or something else to that effect. When I went back it was actually in the middle of one of the rooms full of Devidians. No missing it that time.