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Kelvin-class starship?
jim625
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any chance of a t6 kelvin-class starship coming to STO?
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Not to mention it got it's TRIBBLE whooped by a mining ships only augmented with Borg Technology, there's no way it would stand a chance against even a Borg Sphere!(of which the Narada's enhancements were reverse engineered from.)
Or ... did they?
There is nothing in the movies that confirms that the Kelvin Universe is a new timeline that was created by Nero destroying the USS Kelvin or that time travel was even used. Spock and Nero could have traveled to a parallel universe that looked similar to the 23rd Century.
There is also the issue that every single instance of time travel that happened in the original Star Trek series and movies before 2233 has been wiped clean. So we are not dealing with the Prime Universe shown in Nemesis, but the Prime Universe shown in the first couple of TOS episodes where there was no instances of time travel. Kirk hasn't traveled to the 1980s to rescue some whales and Picard hasn't travel to the 21st Century to stop the Borg from assimilating the Earth.
So there might be a USS Kelvin in the Prime Universe that looks exactly like the Kelvin Universe's USS Kelvin, but there is no way to confirm if it is due to the Kelvin Universe being a parallel universe or a new timeline.
To be fair it lasted a lot longer in both engagements than the other Federation ships that were destroyed later on at Vulcan. Also, the Enterprise herself took a fair amount of damage from the Narada despite apparently being superior in every way to the Kelvin.
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Actually, exactly that is expressly stated as such in the film:
Not sure why this untrue statement is repeated ad nauseum in the forums here. Either people denying the reality of canon, or they're dim and don't actually pay attention when they watch movies.
Fed: Heavy Command Cruiser refit (the refit from Beyond)
KDF: Intel Warbird Carrier (D7 warbird with single hanger)
Rom: Some AR science warbird or something
Lobi: Adapted Dreadnought Cruiser (the Nerada but the size of the Tarantula) exclusively for Romulans (as they built it) and Klingons (as they captured it) and not Starfleet (as they get the exclusive Vengeance)
Commiseration Prize (because they didn't include one in KT I): The Kelvin Type.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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The biggest mystery in all of Star Trek is how people still continue to fail to understand the Kelvin Timeline.
That being said, I kinda doubt you'll see the Kelvin for the reasons stated, but I wouldn't be surprised to see ships from Star Trek Beyond added shortly after the movie is released.
The Kelvin Lock box proved that nothing is necessarily off limits.
So where does it says that a new timeline was created by Nero's actions? The Kelvin Universe was supposed to have a future similar to the Prime Universe, but that changed with Nero's actions. Spock and Kirk are definitely not in a position to know if Nero came from their future or a parallel universe that looked like what their version of the 24th Century was supposed to look like. All they know is that a person with highly advanced equipment is claiming to be from the 24th Century. Only someone like Q or Daniels would be able to determine if their reality is a new timeline or a parallel universe.
The main problem with the Kelvin Universe being a new timeline is that every single instance of an antagonist changing the past in Star Trek causes the previous timeline to be wiped from existence and the protagonists have to save their reality from being destroyed. So what makes this instance so special that the Prime Universe is not erased? Either the Prime Universe is erased despite what the creators of the new movie say, the Kelvin Universe has always been a parallel universe and the creators of the new Star Trek movies have complete creative control over the Kelvin Universe before 2233, or new timelines don't destroy the previous timeline which ruins every instance of the protagonists going back in time to save their reality. So Kirk and Spock didn't have to go back in time to stop McCoy from saving that Woman and Picard didn't have to go back in time to stop the Borg from assimilating Earth. Their Federation was never in danger and they just had to learn to cope with the new reality they were stuck in.
I remember somebody else on these fora posted a link regarding how time-travel works in ST. IMO, the timeline is like a river - some places you can interrupt it and it resumes it's course, albeit in a somewhat different manner. Other places, it diverges where there's a substantial interruption (a la tributaries) such as the destruction of the USS Kelvin.
I would love a Tier 2-3 Kelvin timeline ship as a giveaway next first contact day or something, or a USS Franklin, each with a special console with a cool new power.
The highly-useful Red Matter Capacitor says "hi". As does the asteroid field previously known as the Romulus system.
if you can i recommend getting the kelvin starship weapons there really good ^^
Bruh, if you can watch that clip and still be confused, I can only ask: are you a Pakled?
I am not confused about that clip. The problem is that everyone is assuming that Spock and Nero traveled back in time when it is just as likely as Spock and Nero traveled to a parallel universe that looks like the 23rd Century. Since the Parallels episode is used to explain Star Trek 2009, then it also means that there are thousands of realities of 21st Century Star Trek, 22nd Century Star Trek, 23rd Century Star Trek, 25th Century Star Trek, etc running in parallel with the 24th Century Star Trek shown in the Parallels episode.
All we know about Star Trek 2009 is that Spock and Nero go through a black hole and they arrive in a reality similar to the 23rd Century. Saying that a new timeline was created from the actions of Nero is pure speculation that is not supported in the movie. The clip is about the realization that the intended future for the Kelvin Universe no longer exists and a new future exists. How similar it would have been to the 24th Century Prime Universe is not known. It could have been the Prime Universe, almost identical with only a few slight changes, or the Klingons and Romulans could have joined the Federation in the 24th Century. So without the presence of someone like Q or Daniels that can monitor different realities, there is no way to know for certain if the Kelvin Universe is a parallel universe or a new timeline created by the actions of Nero.