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Levelling Speed in STO Now vs. the Release of Delta Rising

mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
Before Delta Rising most of the long-term players had finished all the story arcs and were just sitting at level 50, with all those skill points converted into bridge officer skill points. Then DR came, there were 10 new levels plus specs, and missions spread across 10 levels, and a new, slow levelling curve. No one really liked that, especially not being unable to progress the mission arcs.
Since then, a few changes have been made, like the Admirality System, and the minimum level requirements for the DR missions have also been altered.


The TOS expansion has given me a reason to make a completely new character, and level him up. Once DOFFing became available, I did start doing DOFF missions, and kept playing regularly. I did play in the occassional Red Alert, but didn't have much chance to do them, being focused on actually getting ahead with the missions. I did also complete the 3 Yesterday's War missions.
I am now at Level 52, and the Admiralty System is opening up for my AOY character. I just completed the Romulan story arc, which means the Cardassian Struggle, Breen Invasion, Borg Advance, Solanae Dyson Sphere, the Delta Quadrant, the Iconian War and Future Proof are still ahead for me.

Unfortunately for testing, but fortunately for convenience, the Global Event will soon give us a huge skill point bonus, so at this point all our experience will be manipulated so I will probably not actually know if I'll actually hit any levelling gaps again. Still, so far, so interesting.

What are your experience with new characters? At what point in the story missions have you been level 50, 52 or 60?



(Note that at least my experience is still not 100 % authentic to that of a new player. I have plenty of resources I could spend on that character. I never use skill points boosts, but I had a few DOFF packs from the Academy Recruitment event, and a few other DOFFs, like old Tribble testing rewards, that I could get for the character. And of course, plenty of EC and DIlithium I could spend to improve his gear. And from now on, even without the skill point boost, I have dozens of ships that will give me Admiralty cards that I can and will claim.)

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  • scarlingscarling Member Posts: 708 Arc User
    I'm 58 and half way in the delta arc. Also spent a little time grinding out traits and doing some ques, so I might have been lower by this point without those things.
  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Had a very similar expirience. Having a good amount of resources at hand defenitely helps to speed things up and make everything a tad bit more convenient.
    After "Coliseum" my TOS guy hit 50, did "cutting the cord" for the reman boff and then skipped a whole bunch to get the shard of possibilities and the breen boff. With a bit of doffing he's now ~52 with admiratly unlocked and waits till I finish getting the rerun event stuff on all other characters.
    So yeah, with that xp boost coming I'm gonna make sure to get a good amount of spec points soon.
  • sarreoussarreous Member Posts: 336 Arc User
    Pre aoy fed character. Level 57, nearing the end of the Cardassian arc. Spent time grinding out reputation, was doing a lot of doffs, but was doing those mainly for the 50 dil assignments, crafting materials, and occasionally getting items from the eng assignments. Did some Admiralty, but I keep forgetting about them. Have difficulty at elite so I get an exp boost for story missions.​​
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    My AoY is currently lvl 56. I got the „half of the story arcs played“ reward yesterday. I red alerted 4 starship traits in between and doffed for about a week. Think under current XP conditions we have almost twice the story contend available which would be needed to level a toon up to 60.

    I will leave the post lvl 60 grind for the specs to the doff- and admiralty-systems. The latter reversed the XP madness from Delta Rising almost entirely.

    All in all with the recruitment event AoY toons have a pretty easy birth into STO. The rep mark rewards are substantial. If one can combine the Delta Recruitment rewards and have sponsorship tokens all reps are basically finished which is nice.


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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    The AoY captain on my primary STO account reached level 40 last night after completing Installation 18 in the Wasteland story arc. It suppose I could have advanced much further than that because I was repeating "Battle of Caleb IV" to get level appropriate gear every time I ranked up. To save time I think I will skip getting Mk X weapons and just use the Mk VIII stuff for the Romulan Mystery story arc. I also played "Core of the Matter" 5 times to get the neutronium laced armor for my captain and 4 Boffs.

    I only crafted some Mk II consoles for this captain and I have not upgraded any of that gear yet. Waiting for the Double Tech Point Weekend before doing so. Still good enough to play story missions.

    Made some decent EC selling low mark gear on the Exchange. I probably made 11m EC and spent 500m EC buying gear so that captain is sitting on 10.5m EC at the moment. My AoY agent currently has 40 items listed on the Exchange.

    I do Doff missions if the failure rate is not too high. I think I have around 80 Doffs at the moment. I will purchase 100 slots the next time there is a sale. Definitely does help make leveling just a little bit faster.

    Lastly, spent time dancing on Risa to get Favors, but not enough yet to buy a superior floater.


    On my secondary STO account (strictly free to play), my AoY captain has only gotten as far as getting to the 25th century.
  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    I'm at level 60 and I did not encounter a single mission gap. I started doffing when it became available and I started admiralty missions once I had hit level 52. But nothing crazy. I have always been able to play the next mission right away with no need to play patrol missions or Red Alerts.

    Leveling your char from 50 to 60 is still a slow process but nowhere near the hardship that it used to be.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    i'm 57, 2/10ths of the way to 58 and ready to start sphere of influence...needless to say, i won't be hitting any gaps​​
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    ~ Level 23 and finishing Klingon Arc.

    Enthusiasm for replaying the same thing I've done across 10 alts, with certain missions having done multiple times over for rewards, farming items (mk xii vr ap beams), weekly special bonuses, plus the rep/doff/skill point/R&D grind I've done on 9+ toons, all over again...isn't very high at the moment.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    ~ Level 23 and finishing Klingon Arc.

    Enthusiasm for replaying the same thing I've done across 10 alts, with certain missions having done multiple times over for rewards, farming items (mk xii vr ap beams), weekly special bonuses, plus the rep/doff/skill point/R&D grind I've done on 9+ toons, all over again...isn't very high at the moment.

    huh, you think 10 is bad? try 41​​
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    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"


    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    I'm a little bummed I came up 1 level short of getting the Orb of possibilities for my TOS/Temporal recruit captain. Reached 41 by the end of Nimbus without any sidetrack activities (other than ordinary Doffing going on in the background), so the XP curve seems more than adequate just following story missions.

    But I did get the Orb done on 5 other captains during this replay event, so that's pretty shnazzy :). For some reason the mission chains broke for my Rom/KDF and I had to skip over them with time running out.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    the replay event doesn't (or isn't supposed to) end until tomorrow, so one level away from getting the shard shouldn't be an issue​​
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    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"


    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    Too lazy to re-do another character to 60. I already have 16 others maxed out with a Delta recruit as well.

    As of now just taking my time and still at level 23 dino1-4.gif​​
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    the replay event doesn't (or isn't supposed to) end until tomorrow, so one level away from getting the shard shouldn't be an issue​​

    I assumed it ended with the patch this morning, but if it's still there when I log back in you can bet I'm gonna dive on it :).

  • aliensamongusaliensamongus Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    My Temporal Agent became level 60 just before the downtime. Got everything I really wanted.. and I'm not going to redo every mission to get all the set complete. Since I got all my Kelvin beam arrays and torpedo's, I got my theme going.. so the rest is all consoles, which require at least one play-through, so there's that.

    I'm beginning the last season and really eager to see the last 2 missions that were added. Especially Ragnarok.
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  • jorills#2143 jorills Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    Lv 57 almost 58 and just into the Icoanian episiodes Skiped a bit of the dyson sphere episiod, which ill go back to.

    Over all ive found 1-50 insanly fast to level, then 50-60 slow down alot, but still is lots of content to get you to 60 easy.

    The first charater i made when i returned did hit a coupld half'ish level slumps where episiods wouldn,t allow him to continue till i leveled up. the second didn't have any problems thou and this third seems fine to 60.

    Cost to upgrade items as you level for a new player thou seems to be a problem, but understandable with this old a game. The amount of EC they make vs exchange cost for gear is a bit to far apart imo, thou with this AOY giving you a fair chunk of change as you level thats lessoned a lot.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    I'm a little bummed I came up 1 level short of getting the Orb of possibilities for my TOS/Temporal recruit captain. Reached 41 by the end of Nimbus without any sidetrack activities (other than ordinary Doffing going on in the background), so the XP curve seems more than adequate just following story missions.

    But I did get the Orb done on 5 other captains during this replay event, so that's pretty shnazzy :). For some reason the mission chains broke for my Rom/KDF and I had to skip over them with time running out.

    What did the Orb do again? I am not sure I have him on any characters, actually.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    My character is 58, and I am just starting the Borg arc.

    However, I have the benefit of the LTS bonus, so my leveling is slightly faster than the F2P player
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    I know I won't hit a gap in leveling. The Exp boost gave me a huge leveling up. I finished the AOY starting missions after they fixed the "Web" mission bug. I came out of there at Lv13. Then I did up to the Vulcan Ambassador mission where he turns into an Undine. And now I'm at like Lv 21. This boost alone is really huge. Normally you don't hit the 20s until about time for the Nimbus story arc. Once I hit Lv 50. I will hit the Dil mines and other ways to get Dil. So I can start upgrading my gear to better levels. Then back to the story arcs.
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  • unotetsuunotetsu Member Posts: 663 Arc User
    DOFF assignments are VITAL to leveling up quickly, I recommend donating a bunch of purple doffs to your new character when they reach level 10-15 when they can start doffing and keep the doff missions rolling, you would be amazed how quickly you can level using the doffs system, then once you hit level 52 make sure to reclaim as many ships for admiralty as you can as admiralty helps a LOT to get to level 60 quickly.
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  • nephitisnephitis Member Posts: 456 Arc User
    ~ Level 23 and finishing Klingon Arc.

    Enthusiasm for replaying the same thing I've done across 10 alts, with certain missions having done multiple times over for rewards, farming items (mk xii vr ap beams), weekly special bonuses, plus the rep/doff/skill point/R&D grind I've done on 9+ toons, all over again...isn't very high at the moment.

    I wonder why people brutally punish themselves (or something) with so many alternative characters in different MMOs. Personally I only create multiple characters if I have to. For example, for the Delta and Temporal Recruit events. Star Wars: The Old Republic is probably the only game where I have created multiple characters and played through them more extensively, but I only did that for the primary storylines and the account-wide rewards.

    Other than that I usually just play one single character. I can admit it may seem boring but it allows me to pour all my resources and soul into that one character.

    Anyways, my Temporal Agent is level 31... but I am taking it real slow and using my main character to craft and buy gear to help me speed through things. Leveling for spec points and reputation tiers is going to be a pain. I probably won't be done with that in a while. I am mostly interested in the superior versions of the specialization starship traits.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    Just hit 50 with my toon and not even half way through the Romulan Arc, this mega XP week has been a major boon. By the time I finish Cardassian I'll probably be around 60.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    nephitis wrote: »
    ~ Level 23 and finishing Klingon Arc.

    Enthusiasm for replaying the same thing I've done across 10 alts, with certain missions having done multiple times over for rewards, farming items (mk xii vr ap beams), weekly special bonuses, plus the rep/doff/skill point/R&D grind I've done on 9+ toons, all over again...isn't very high at the moment.

    I wonder why people brutally punish themselves (or something) with so many alternative characters in different MMOs. Personally I only create multiple characters if I have to. For example, for the Delta and Temporal Recruit events. Star Wars: The Old Republic is probably the only game where I have created multiple characters and played through them more extensively, but I only did that for the primary storylines and the account-wide rewards.

    Other than that I usually just play one single character. I can admit it may seem boring but it allows me to pour all my resources and soul into that one character.

    Anyways, my Temporal Agent is level 31... but I am taking it real slow and using my main character to craft and buy gear to help me speed through things. Leveling for spec points and reputation tiers is going to be a pain. I probably won't be done with that in a while. I am mostly interested in the superior versions of the specialization starship traits.

    I don't consider it punishing myself. I don't have dozens like some players do. But I have more than enough to work with. Each one is at a different part of the game. Two was waiting for more new missions to come out. One was starting the Iconian Arc. Then I had my D. Recruit farming Dil to get Andorian ship weapons. Since she is in an Andorian Ship. So while I'm waiting for new missions, I was farming Dil or working on my Iconian Arc. This is where it comes in handy to have a couple characters. Now I'm working on my AOY some. Which I won't much longer since I wanted to see the new missions that came out. And I wanted to get my AOY started up to see their story.

    Without some of my alts, I would be at a stand still and won't have to log on. Just to collect a few things and back off. Since I would be caught up. I'm not one to try to get all the things the game offers. Just stuff that gets my attention. This way I'm still playing and enjoying the game.
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,130 Arc User
    I just enjoy doing stuff differently, so I have multiple toons with different styles to play.

    That being said, my temps aren't that advanced, the furthest is at level 31. I quickly got them all to 15 but am too lazy to be doffing right now, so they only advance through story (well, and Risa accolades for what it's worth). Especially because I started a new job this week which is taxing (my old one was more routine so I was fitter in the evenings).

    But my Delta recruits did have no problem at all with level requirements for missions. The 50-60 gap probably really was an issue only for players who would probably have been level 75 or so at that point but had to start from 50. It may be a problem for those who only do story missions, no doffing or red alerts or similar at all, who don't hit any bonus. But even then it shouldn't be too bad.
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  • ricosakararicosakara Member Posts: 422 Arc User
    Sadly, I decided not to do a AoY toon, because I don't want to waste 2-3 weeks leveling a new character, like I did with my Delta Recruit. As much as I want to play a Temporal Agent, I just can't afford myself the time, since I got commissions to do.
    But I can tell you I remember reaching level 50 around the time I was doing up the Cardassian Arc. Was 60 by the time I got to Delta Rising from my Delta Recruit. Temporal AoY, at a guess, would be the same amount of time.
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