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Mirror Universe Dominion: New Faction Idea

lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Okay for a variety of reasons a Cardassian and Dominion factions would be difficult from a plot perpective, but a ironically a mirror Universe Dominion would allow one to have a Dominion Faction without messing with the normal Dominion.

After the Terran Empire has crushed the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance, the Cardassians could turn to the Mirror Dominion to save them and the Mirror Dominion could make an alliance with the Federation, Klingon Empire, and Romulan Republic against threats like the Terran Empire, Tholians, and Feklh'ri/Hurok.

You'd have a mix of Mirror Universe Cardassian and Mirror Universe Dominion Ships.

Instead of allying with federation like so "TOS" faction, the Mirror Universe Faction allies with the Klingons (fitting as the Mirror Dominion inherits what's left of the Klingon Cardassian Alliance, after its defeat by the Terran Empire).

This would allow the Mirror Dominion access to mirror universe KDF ships from lockboxes, tiers 1-4 KDF ships, KDF boffs, ect...

New battle ground Mirror Bajor.

I'd suggest allowing Cardassian, Vorta, Jem'hadar, Breen, Orion, Bajoran, and Klingon Player Characters races.

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  • ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    Would be an interesting idea. Of course with the way things are heading we'll all be one big happy family soon, but it does seem like the next logical step.

    Spoilers ahead from the missions in the latest expansion:
    Noye has now been arrested, his own forces destroyed and the Sphere Builders driven back to their hyperspace dimension, but the Terrans broke away and returned to their own universe to plot their own attack on the allied forces without their former allies, this makes them a very likely option as the new villains.

    The next big bad is either going to be the Terrans or those ultra-Borg that were hinted at having devastated most of the Delta Quadrant off the Voyager route we have currently explored. If it's the Terrans then this seems a suitable option.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    "The next big bad is either going to be the Terrans or those ultra-Borg that were hinted at having devastated most of the Delta Quadrant off the Voyager route we have currently explored. If it's the Terrans then this seems a suitable opt"

    Exactly!!!
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,164 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    What about a 'Story Arc' where we take on the role of our mirror counterpart?

    You know .. all that fun stuff the Federation wont allow.

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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    That could be interesting.

    But I'm really going to push my idea for a Mirror Dominion, it fits the STO story line, it get around the challenges to having a Cardassian/Dominion Faction, adds an interesting plot that uses a current enemy, can be done easily as a subfaction like TOS snd Romulan Republic, doesn't require new mechanics.

    You could add in a new "sector" accessible via the Wormhole, in the heart of Mirror Dominion space, with places like New Cardassia, Various mirror universe Gamma locations.

    You could deal with the Mirror Universal Female Changeling, Mirror Wyun, Mirror Gul Ducat, Mirror Kilana, the Intendant, ect...
  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    lordgyor wrote: »
    "The next big bad is either going to be the Terrans or those ultra-Borg that were hinted at having devastated most of the Delta Quadrant off the Voyager route we have currently explored. If it's the Terrans then this seems a suitable opt"

    Exactly!!!

    Um, forgive me for misunderstanding, but what ultra-borg that was hinted at?

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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    lordgyor wrote: »
    That could be interesting.

    But I'm really going to push my idea for a Mirror Dominion, it fits the STO story line, it get around the challenges to having a Cardassian/Dominion Faction, adds an interesting plot that uses a current enemy, can be done easily as a subfaction like TOS snd Romulan Republic, doesn't require new mechanics.

    Most people arev very unhappy with subfactions though. At least on the forums.
    You could add in a new "sector" accessible via the Wormhole, in the heart of Mirror Dominion space, with places like New Cardassia, Various mirror universe Gamma locations.

    I thought you got to the mirror universe using an orb? How's the wormhole fit into this?
    You could deal with the Mirror Universal Female Changeling, Mirror Wyun, Mirror Gul Ducat, Mirror Kilana, the Intendant, ect...

    So we'd be the villains, taking out all of those good guys you list who would be trying to bring down the tyranny of the Terran Empire?
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    vegeta50024 wrote: »
    lordgyor wrote: »
    "The next big bad is either going to be the Terrans or those ultra-Borg that were hinted at having devastated most of the Delta Quadrant off the Voyager route we have currently explored. If it's the Terrans then this seems a suitable opt"

    Exactly!!!

    Um, forgive me for misunderstanding, but what ultra-borg that was hinted at?
    The explanation for why the Tuterians were destroyed after the weapon ship experiments was that there was a side effect that caused the Borg to become more advanced. But this might have been relative to the point at which the Tuterians had encountered them in the previous timeline.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    "I thought you got to the mirror universe using an orb? How's the wormhole fit into this?"

    In the very first mirror universe episode of DS9 Doctor Bashir and Major Kira Nerys end up in the Mirror Universe via the Wormhole, something went wrong in the Wormhole, and they end up in the Mirror Universe instead of the regular Mirror Universe.

    later they also use the Wormhole to get back to their to their universe.

    This would provide an easy way in STO to move from the Bajoran Sector to the Mirror Gamma Quardant Sector. You would also have a transwarp option of course.

    "So we'd be the villains, taking out all of those good guys you list who would be trying to bring down the tyranny of the Terran Empire?"


    We'd be the Mirror Dominion, not the Terran Empire, who'd be the Mirror Dominions enemies. So more like an antihero faction, allied with the Prime Universes Klingon Empire, not true villians.

    And we'd get our missions from Mirror Female Changeling, Mirror Wyun, Mirror Kilana, Mirror Dukat, that's what I mean by deal with.

    home base would be a Cardassian Colony in the Mirror Gamma Quardant called New Cardassia or a Cardassian Nor class Space Station like DS9 orbiting new Cardassia, run by the Mirror female Changeling with Mirror Wyun and Mirror Gul Ducat as her right and left hand man.

    Mirror Kilana would run the doff store and train/recruit Bridge officers.

    We'd fly Mirror Cardassian, Mirror Orion, Mirror Breen, and Mirror Dominion ships.

    A possible mission would be to protect the Mirror Changeling home world from a Terran Empire attack.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    It would be effI ent, because you could put a Mirror Dominion Skin on a Galor or Mirror Jem'hadar attack ship and change the stats, at say Captain rank, then release a Mirror Galor and Mirror Attack ship Retrofits at T5, then Mirror verisons of the T6 Jem'hadar Dreadnaught Cruiser and Jem'hadar Strike Ship, Jem'hadar Escort Carrier without building any new ship models for them, you just change the stats and slap skins on them. Maybe add Mirror Orion Sydicate Ships.

    You'd still need some new Mirror Dominion ships like lower level ships and a T6 Galor, Vet ships, ect..., but you could a pretty large fleet right out the door, with miniumal relative effort.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    For that hypothetical expansion our fleets could get a Cardassian Nor Class station as a fleet holding.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    Its more mixing current Cardassia into the Dominion that makes that a Challenge, which using the Mirror Dominion gets around.

    I guess you could have Cardassians that were loyal to the Dominion leave and settle a Planet within the Gamma Quadrant.

    Or focus on the Cardassians instead, with abaddoned Vorta and Jem'hadar and their descendants now members of the Cardassian Union.

    I just thought that the Mirror Dominion would be a neat way to combine a bunch of great DS9 themes such as the Cardassians, Bajorans, the Mirror Universe, the Dominion, and perhaps the Orion Syndicate into a single faction that makes sense.
  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    A mirror universe Dominion would not be the Dominion to me... I like the Prime Universe's Dominion, the nearly all powerful Gamma Quadrant superpower that could rule other quadrants if they really wanted to... the Mirror Universe versions would probably be like the Federation and good guys... yeck!
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    thay8472 wrote: »
    What about a 'Story Arc' where we take on the role of our mirror counterpart?

    You know .. all that fun stuff the Federation wont allow.

    Pretty sure they've said we'll never get to play the "villians" as a faction.

  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
    A mirror-universe Dominion would have loads of potential IMO, but certainly not as a cardboard-cutout of the Terran Empire with an alien look (which would kinda interfere with the established plots and the Reputation-System of the game).

    Having a faction originating from a mirror-universe on ist own is a very potent foundation for an interesting starting-experience. Making it the Dominion would also present mind-boggling surprises here and there - neat.
    As for playable races, pretty much everything could be in the mix. From actual Dominion-races to allied races.

    And sub-faction or not... IMO the TOS-feds and RR are fine. They have unique starting-experiences and they added new plotlines as well as ships.
  • ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    somtaawkhar wrote: »
    Why do we need a mirror Dominion faction when we know the normal Dominion has either joined, or works alongside, the Galactic Union?

    The NORMAL Dominion is already open to such cooperation.

    So you want the 27th century Dominion then? Anything from the early 25th century would require something more extreme.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Okay for a variety of reasons a Cardassian and Dominion factions would be difficult from a plot perpective...
    What's your reasoning behind this? Setting up a story line for either faction would be pretty simple.
    lordgyor wrote: »
    After the Terran Empire has crushed the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance, the Cardassians could turn to the Mirror Dominion to save them and the Mirror Dominion could make an alliance with the Federation, Klingon Empire, and Romulan Republic against threats like the Terran Empire, Tholians, and Feklh'ri/Hurok.
    Most of us here are big time Trek fans. We all have our inner personal Trek daydreams that we like to imagine ourselves in. The truth is, that pretty much nobody else will have any interest in listening to us talk about those daydreams that we have created for ourselves.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,164 Arc User
    What if I gave you a 'Mirror Dominion War' via the foundry? In which you crush the scourge of the Gamma Quadrant, expanding the Empire to new and glorious conquests in the name of the Emperor.

    Long live the Empire! o/
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    From a plot perpective the Cardassian Union has been nuetered, but more importantly it would difficult to make the Cardassians and Dominion a united faction again. But not impossible, my Mirror Dominion idea is but, one possible possiblity, with extra benifits that it combines a bunch of really cool DS9 themes/elements into a bad arsed faction.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    I know she beat the Klingob Carsdassian alliance, but the Mirror Dominion won't fall so easily!!!
  • ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    somtaawkhar wrote: »
    ashrod63 wrote: »
    So you want the 27th century Dominion then? Anything from the early 25th century would require something more extreme.
    Why exactly would we need the 27th century Dominion?

    Are you suggesting because the first time we saw a non-hostile Dominion was when we time traveled to the 27th century, that means that was the very moment they had gone none hostile?

    Did you forget this is Star Trek Online, where, in less then two years, we have managed to unite the Federation, Klingon Empire, and Romulan Republic, once bitter rivals, into an Alpha quadrant alliance? And the same Star Trek Online where we then went into the Delta Quadrant and untied like half the races there into a Delta Alliance that was allied with our Alpha Alliance?

    Seriously, the very next expansion could include a non-hostile Dominion, and be set in the current day of STO, so long as they insert some alien force like the Hur'q/Fekihri horde led by T'ket and her Heralds that both the Dominion and AQA had to work together to defeat.


    They'd clearly been non-hostile for a while by that point as there were colonies established in the Gamma Quadrant by then.

    As much as they could jump into it, the Dominion are still hostile in 2410, and there's no way they'll have 60 levels of content to keep them separate until peace is made. There'd need to be some sort of time jump.
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