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steaensteaen Member Posts: 630 Arc User
Bought myself a Fleet Temporal Escort and in the middle of setting up the power tray, I notice that I have the option to cloak the ship - I don't have a cloak slotted and I hadn't noticed anything in the Dev Blogs suggesting the 26th century ships would have an inbuilt cloak or anything?

Have I missed something and this should have been expected, or is it a mistake of some kind?
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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    That is...... weird.

    I mean, technically, it could.... make sense? The Klingons and the Romulans are Federation member states by then, I believe. Any treaties that restricted Starfleet from developing cloaking technology by those states would be rendered null and void by their admission. So, it'd make a sort-of sense that Starfleet ships could have cloaking technology on them.

    But uh, it wasn't actually.... mentioned in the Dev Blogs?
    Maybe it was a surprise?
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  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    That is...... weird.

    I mean, technically, it could.... make sense? The Klingons and the Romulans are Federation member states by then, I believe. Any treaties that restricted Starfleet from developing cloaking technology by those states would be rendered null and void by their admission. So, it'd make a sort-of sense that Starfleet ships could have cloaking technology on them.

    But uh, it wasn't actually.... mentioned in the Dev Blogs?
    Maybe it was a surprise?

    Yep, I could see the in-game logic behind why there would be one, I just wasn't expecting it to be there.

    I've had a look back through the Dev Blogs and can't see any reference to cloaks at all. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, just...curious, I suppose.
  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    steaen wrote: »
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    That is...... weird.

    I mean, technically, it could.... make sense? The Klingons and the Romulans are Federation member states by then, I believe. Any treaties that restricted Starfleet from developing cloaking technology by those states would be rendered null and void by their admission. So, it'd make a sort-of sense that Starfleet ships could have cloaking technology on them.

    But uh, it wasn't actually.... mentioned in the Dev Blogs?
    Maybe it was a surprise?

    Yep, I could see the in-game logic behind why there would be one, I just wasn't expecting it to be there.

    I've had a look back through the Dev Blogs and can't see any reference to cloaks at all. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, just...curious, I suppose.

    And you're sure it's for the Temporal Escort, and not the Temporal Raider? Because the Raider actually has a Battle Cloak that was pointed out in the Dev Blog.
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  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    And you're sure it's for the Temporal Escort, and not the Temporal Raider? Because the Raider actually has a Battle Cloak that was pointed out in the Dev Blog.

    Yep, Fleet Temporal Escort, Theseus Class.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,889 Arc User
    Just keeps getting better and better, no 23rd century romulan or klingon toons, no romulan or klingon specific temporal ships, and now us feds get cloak on our exclusive temporal ships.

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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    steaen wrote: »
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    And you're sure it's for the Temporal Escort, and not the Temporal Raider? Because the Raider actually has a Battle Cloak that was pointed out in the Dev Blog.

    Yep, Fleet Temporal Escort, Theseus Class.

    Hrm. Do the other ones also have cloaks? I'm not in-game, so I can't check; the Eternal I was testing out earlier didn't seem to have one, so it seems the 31st century ships aren't surprising anyone right now.
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  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    steaen wrote: »
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    And you're sure it's for the Temporal Escort, and not the Temporal Raider? Because the Raider actually has a Battle Cloak that was pointed out in the Dev Blog.

    Yep, Fleet Temporal Escort, Theseus Class.

    Hrm. Do the other ones also have cloaks? I'm not in-game, so I can't check; the Eternal I was testing out earlier didn't seem to have one, so it seems the 31st century ships aren't surprising anyone right now.

    Can't be sure, I've only bought the Theseus as opposed to the pack.

    Would be interesting to hear from anyone who has bought any of the others on this matter.
  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    Id like to get an answer on this as well. I'm about to throw down some cash on the Eternal class, but if the 26th century ones can cloak, I may have to rethink things.

    Also, do the 26th century ones have a new bridge?
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  • alphahydrialphahydri Member Posts: 391 Arc User
    Id like to get an answer on this as well. I'm about to throw down some cash on the Eternal class, but if the 26th century ones can cloak, I may have to rethink things.

    Also, do the 26th century ones have a new bridge?
    That they do! The new bridge for 26th century ships is called the Universe bridge. I haven't been able to actually check it out (at work right now), but I saw it when I was mucking around a few minutes before I left this morning.

    I don't know if the 31st century ships have a unique bridge but, considering that all the new Kelvin ships have their own bridge along with the 23rd/26th century ones, I would assume the 31st century ships get one too!
  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    Also, do the 26th century ones have a new bridge?

    They do, but (to my eyes at least), it's appallingly ugly. No chairs whatsoever, doesn't look even slightly Fed to me and in the case of my ship seems far too big for an escort bridge. All of that said, you can use any of the other standard bridge options instead, so I've opted for a Defiant one which seems to fit far better. I certainly wouldn't be inclined to make a purchase decision based on the new bridge alone.
  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    The bridge is a bonus.What I really want to know about is that cloak.
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  • tyrionjkirktyrionjkirk Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    I bought the big pack but I have only used the T6 Battle Cruiser Paladin Class and I was surprised as well that it had a cloak. And for anyone wanting to know it is an awesome ship. I will test out the rest of the ships tomorrow.
  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    Ok if the 26th century ones can and the 32nd ones can't I'm going to be annoyed.
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  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    I bought the big pack but I have only used the T6 Battle Cruiser Paladin Class and I was surprised as well that it had a cloak.

    Interesting, so it is starting to look as if all of the 26th Century ships have surprise in-built cloaks then.
  • jabofneurospinejabofneurospine Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    There's a few inaccuracies in the blog stats and even the listed stats for the ships in game. All of the 31st century ships can load dual cannons for example, while only the Ouroboros is listed as capable of doing so. And it isn't stated anywhere that the 31st century ships use the wells bridge as far as I can find.
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,412 Arc User
    Please let this be working as intended, and if not, don't take it away!

    I can't believe my Paladin comes with built-in cloak too if what you all say is true, and you bet it's the first thing I'm testing tomorrow morning.
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Yep, my Paladin has a cloak.
  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Wow, if they do have a cloak then that has put them up a bit in my assessment.
    Wouldn't have bothered with them until now as I've just gotten used to using my Intel ships with their cloaks, but now they are looking quite interesting.
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  • potencethe1stpotencethe1st Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    my cstore t6 temporal escort does not have a cloak.

    my fleet t6 temportal escort does have a cloak.

    interesting.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Just keeps getting better and better, no 23rd century romulan or klingon toons, no romulan or klingon specific temporal ships, and now us feds get cloak on our exclusive temporal ships.

    I approve of this spectacular trolling Cryptic, well done! >:)

    trolling indeed
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,808 Arc User
    yeah, if their not supposed to have the cloak should be removed. actually should probably be removed period, but I'm too tired to rant today

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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    My T6 Nautilus has no cloak.
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  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    I remember something like this happening before. It was on the...Monbosh I think? They had copy/pasted the general template from the KDF battlecruisers and then made tweaks to it but forgot to remove the cloak. They did remove the cloak later, much to the anger of people who bought the ship because it had a cloak.

    So while I do like that my Paladin has a cloak on it, I'll be expecting it to be removed.
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,412 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    My Paladin does have basic built-in cloak after testing, and have let everyone know about this discovery so at least one might even be more inclined to buy them. I hope it stays put, and that the other ships get it too.

    I've been used to (spoiled by) cloaking Feds since the intel ships, yet still never bought the console cloak for making a battle cloaking defiant or a cloaking Avenger/Arbiter & T6 GalX. Battle cloaks are also built into the tadaari, daemosh, and nakuhl and available for all factions, so now what was ultra rare for Feds (Voth Battle Cloak) is now built-in and in endless supply.

    If power creep would have been consistent, Roms and KDFs would have phase-shifting enhanced battle cloaks by now built in, or at least Rom battlecloaks that can fire for a few seconds during cloak like the Scimitar console.
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  • teknesiateknesia Member Posts: 860 Arc User
    I wonder if the Paladin is supposed to have it just because it's a battle cruiser in the same vain as the Arbiter and the Avenger.
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,808 Arc User
    teknesia wrote: »
    I wonder if the Paladin is supposed to have it just because it's a battle cruiser in the same vain as the Arbiter and the Avenger.

    that would be odd since nether has it built in.


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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    It'd be neat if, as a consolation (if the cloaks do get removed), these ships were given the ability to at least equip the cloaking device console.
    I dunno, I kinda dig them being able to cloak cuz lore would technically support it, y'know?
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,808 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    It'd be neat if, as a consolation (if the cloaks do get removed), these ships were given the ability to at least equip the cloaking device console.
    I dunno, I kinda dig them being able to cloak cuz lore would technically support it, y'know?

    the lore supports the 31c ships but not the 26c. little to early in the timeline.


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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    nightken wrote: »
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    It'd be neat if, as a consolation (if the cloaks do get removed), these ships were given the ability to at least equip the cloaking device console.
    I dunno, I kinda dig them being able to cloak cuz lore would technically support it, y'know?

    the lore supports the 31c ships but not the 26c. little to early in the timeline.

    Actually, I'm pretty sure by the 26th century, the Klingons and the Romulans are already part of the Federation (this is the same time period that the Enterprise-J is from, and it has Cardassians, Klingons, Romulans, even Xindi, as crewmembers).
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,889 Arc User
    I mean, wouldn't it make sense for a temporal ship to have a cloak anyway, to limit any contamination of the timeline?
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