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ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
Over time I have stored away literly hundreds of lock boxes. I open a few now and then just for giggles and a shot at rare stuff and of course Lobi. With the new infinity boxes are the old ones still valid or are they just junk now?

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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    I can't say I've seen any circumstance under which I'd open an old lockbox over an infinity lock box. The new ones can give you some weird surprises like a squad of Ferengi doffs, but for any substantial prize your-choice wins.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    I can't say I've seen any circumstance under which I'd open an old lockbox over an infinity lock box. The new ones can give you some weird surprises like a squad of Ferengi doffs, but for any substantial prize your-choice wins.

    Not sure how it works, but say I was going for a Plasmonic Leech. Wouldn't opening a Tal Shiar lock box technically give me better odds then an Infinity since the total list of available prizes is so much smaller?
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,952 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    I can't say I've seen any circumstance under which I'd open an old lockbox over an infinity lock box. The new ones can give you some weird surprises like a squad of Ferengi doffs, but for any substantial prize your-choice wins.

    Not sure how it works, but say I was going for a Plasmonic Leech. Wouldn't opening a Tal Shiar lock box technically give me better odds then an Infinity since the total list of available prizes is so much smaller?

    same odds, the infinity box would just give you your choice of console reward.
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    Not sure how it works, but say I was going for a Plasmonic Leech. Wouldn't opening a Tal Shiar lock box technically give me better odds then an Infinity since the total list of available prizes is so much smaller?

    We'll have to see how percentages shake out but at the moment I'd say the odds are still dramatically more in your favor going with the infinity box - because you're simultaneously taking a shot any ship you want, the best space trait imaginable, the best 'second prize' ship available, AND the console of your dreams. Basically it looks like each your-choice box has the combined odds of all the choices in it in a normal box so a console is just as likely and ground and space traits are effectively more likely (because BOTH traits are amalgamated into a single completely flexible box). Plus every box is a crack at an ultra rare instead of just the two boxes that formerly offered them.

    In the upper tier rewards there are simply no stinkers, because you can grab the best-in-category for every category. If you lose some miniscule likelihood of that one precise item you want, you more than make it up on the RAIN of "well, damn, I can find a use for THAT" drops.

    While my sample size is not representative, out of 32 boxes I got 3 consoles of-my-choice (plasmonics for everyone!), 2 space traits of-my-choice (ROM and FED mains are both Inspirational Leaders now), and two ground traits of-my-choice (Still choosing...). It was a RAMPAGE through the loot tables... I would also have expected ~150 lobi and instead got closer to 300.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    Valid? yes. Useful? No.
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    So dump them or open fopr lobi that is the question... Thanks all for the input.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    If it's the Na'kuhl lockbox, it's still useful for a while. The others are just plain trash now, IMO.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    So obviously.. the Infinity box has the best odds.

    My proof?

    Yesterday there were just over 20 Plasmonic Leech consoles on the market with the cheapest one going for right around 70M.

    Right now, there are 88 of them and the cheapest one is going for 22M.

    It does seem that the ability to choose rewards gives the Infinity Box far better odds. I'm just dumping my old boxes, no point in keeping them.
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    I have seen a marginal case made for Cardassian boxes if you consider the potential Doff amongst the most valuable items in the game... but yeah even those drop from Infinite boxes so for the other 99 times out of 100 there's just no contest.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    nikeix wrote: »
    I have seen a marginal case made for Cardassian boxes if you consider the potential Doff amongst the most valuable items in the game... but yeah even those drop from Infinite boxes so for the other 99 times out of 100 there's just no contest.
    Still no contest. If you fail to get a Galor or Zemok box, with the Cardassian box, then you just plain failed. However, you can still at least get a space trait that's worth something, or kemocite, or something that's less of a fail from the infinity box.
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    So are you telling me I'm not going to make billons and billons of EC selling my hordes of old lock boxes???? :(
  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    If you could comb the old sector space maps from a year ago...You can have all the old ones I kept dumping around the Klingon neutral zone. :p
  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    So are you telling me I'm not going to make billons and billons of EC selling my hordes of old lock boxes???? :(

    I would be genuinely shocked if you make more than an average of 5 ec per box for the old ones.

  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    You're schitting me. I was saving them for an investment.
    That was my STO 401k, and now theyre worthless?
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Well i would have hoped since this new infinity box jazz the demand for old ones would go up....then i get rich.
  • tessaravejgantessaravejgan Member Posts: 276
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    Over time I have stored away literly hundreds of lock boxes. I open a few now and then just for giggles and a shot at rare stuff and of course Lobi. With the new infinity boxes are the old ones still valid or are they just junk now?

    I suggest if you have some left like the herald ones to drop them on exchange right away while they still hold some value. With the infinity box the old ones have become completely obsolete. Why open an old box and risk getting a white common doff pack for instance or a TRIBBLE catalyst when you can open an infinity box and at least get something useful.
  • tiekosoratiekosora Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    Well that opens up a shitton of inventory space lol.
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