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elvenaar
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Hi all, so I saw the two blog posts about the new graphic tech upgrade and I was kinda surprised they did not give anyone the opportunity to comment it in an official thread, so I am making this here to ask the Devs to please don't mess this up like they did on Neverwinter.
Over there they came out w/ this new bling bling upgrade in the latest mod The Maze Engine which effectively disabled the game for players with old computers. Now I know people will say why don't you buy a new PC? Well if you lived in Eastern Europe like I do you'd know why is my answer to them.
Anyways in Neverwinter after the first week of not even being able to log into the game as it would time out upon login, that is the text that kept popping up when I tried logging in, in collaboration w/ Tech Support I managed to finally be able to play in safe mode (w/ the help of three command line inputs), which for those that do not know is a small screened version of the game, about 30x25 cms in size, which is obviously not how the game should be played and I couldn't play it even then, only make basic movements and collect rewards I didn't have to do much playing for, like the VIP keys.
After another few weeks of stabilizations the game became playable in safe mode screen size, so I could move and interact w/ NPCs w/o freezing down for minutes on end and now more than 2 months after the mod was released I am experimenting in enlarging the screen size so I can play normally. Thusfar I am able to play in a 40x35 cm size screen, I don't dare enlarge further as I fear of going back to ground zero and freezing up again,
So taking all the above experience from Neverwinter into account I was extremely delighted to see in the last blog about this update that you are considering not to break the game for people w/ older PCs. Well I hope you keep to this promise and not mess things up. If worst comes to worst can you pls make it so we can have a button to turn off the new updates to graphics? It would be a life-saver to many old players like myself.
Thanks in advance.
Over there they came out w/ this new bling bling upgrade in the latest mod The Maze Engine which effectively disabled the game for players with old computers. Now I know people will say why don't you buy a new PC? Well if you lived in Eastern Europe like I do you'd know why is my answer to them.
Anyways in Neverwinter after the first week of not even being able to log into the game as it would time out upon login, that is the text that kept popping up when I tried logging in, in collaboration w/ Tech Support I managed to finally be able to play in safe mode (w/ the help of three command line inputs), which for those that do not know is a small screened version of the game, about 30x25 cms in size, which is obviously not how the game should be played and I couldn't play it even then, only make basic movements and collect rewards I didn't have to do much playing for, like the VIP keys.
After another few weeks of stabilizations the game became playable in safe mode screen size, so I could move and interact w/ NPCs w/o freezing down for minutes on end and now more than 2 months after the mod was released I am experimenting in enlarging the screen size so I can play normally. Thusfar I am able to play in a 40x35 cm size screen, I don't dare enlarge further as I fear of going back to ground zero and freezing up again,
So taking all the above experience from Neverwinter into account I was extremely delighted to see in the last blog about this update that you are considering not to break the game for people w/ older PCs. Well I hope you keep to this promise and not mess things up. If worst comes to worst can you pls make it so we can have a button to turn off the new updates to graphics? It would be a life-saver to many old players like myself.
Thanks in advance.
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Simply put "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Bummer! With games and graphics...things always get better than they are. That's the natural progression/path of technology and software...definitely games. Just out of curiosity, what are your current PC's specs?
Now that the game is becoming available for console based gaming systems, you might want to consider one of those if PC hardware isn't readily available.
TBh I highly doubt it's only the few that will have issues w/ this, you obviously have no clue about what I was talking about in relation to Neverwinter. As I said they already broke the game for us there already once, so unfortunately the odds they will break it here too is also high.
Now if you will provide me the $300-400 needed to get a new PC in this region I will gladly upgrade my gear, but otherwise I will not starve for a game, so will have to keep making these inquiries to the devs to beg them to be careful.
Funny thing is that I can play newer games. There is one russian made game (let's call it SF, so I wont' be accused of advertising other games), not even one year old, that while it has bugs like every MMO it works on my gear on minimum settings and Neverwinter which is 3 years old now is barely working.
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My PC is quite old 5 years old TBH, but in this region that is natural, we're not the West where money flows from every direction, our money only goes to the west, it's not coming back too, at least not to the small people. Consoles are an unknown on the markets here as they're so expensive that no one uses them, except the rich people. And PC components are expensive, you need to save up about 2 months of pay to buy a new PC and that is if you don't eat for that time, which is impossible.
Also I think consoles and PC won't be interplayable, so going consoles would mean to abandon 4 years of STO and start anew on a console, IF I could afford one, which is even more expensive that PC, about 3 months of pay or so. On Neverwinter you don't have interplayable servers, so I highly doubt it will be on STO.
The other guy suggested I use Amazon, as if Amazon works like it does in the US for everyone. Typical american/western arrogance and they wonder why us in the east don't really like them.
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And Sam is right. They are only updating the lighting system at the the time being. If your system can run STO. It won't be any different when we get the lighting update.
The lighting update requires a minimum system specs to kick in. If the hardware doesn't meet the requirements it won't kick in.
Here's a phrase to remind of you of the arrogance which occurs in Eastern Europe sometimes: "Ethnic Cleansing"
Lets try and remember, the person that offered the suggestion had no way of knowing your economic situation and was simply offering suggestions. Most people in this thread have tried to help you, the only one who has been insulting is you. Try and remember that it's nearly impossible to draw tone of voice from written text so many things that are written sound differently depending on how the reader hears it in his/her head. I suggest you try re-reading some of the suggestions and instead of placing a tone inspired by your irrational hatred of an entire section of the world, that you instead take it in the tone in which it's intended.
and lucky never forget that. if you can only ever get dead end jobs it rather limits what you can do.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
To be fair, it isn't even easy to stay poor. It takes effort and work to continuously make poor choices and poor decisions, then carry them out without realizing they are mistakes. Further, it takes effort to argue or ignore all the helpful advice offered from people who witness this struggle. To be frank, it seems like it takes far more work to be poor than to just do what needs to be done.
Oh. Okay.
After all we have seen how games ported to the PC have looked, will that be the same in reverse, the port look great on the console, but awful on the PC.
Just for reference, I live in Eastern Europe too.
Perhaps you could get a hold of let's say an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 660 or something similiar?
Considering your concerns about the launch of expansions/huge updates: These never went without problems. LoR's launch was a mess. Nothing worked when it was rolled out first, because they had to rush it to meet the release-date. During the first week, many problems were solved though and the game was playable again.
That depends to what degree the sourcecode is changed in order to provide the basis for the upgrades. I'm no expert, but the RAM-requirements and maximum usage *can* change.
A 32 Bit program can address more then 4GB of RAM when running on a 64bit OS. The limitation you are referencing was a limitation in 32bit Windows, not one inherent in all 32 bit programs.
Either way, the 'recommended' for STO is 2GB, more then likely the OP would get more improvement from a CPU or GPU upgrade then he would by adding RAM to an old system. Especially considering the fact that older memory can often times be more expensive then current spec memory.
While I sympathize with the OP, I have to agree that it's not a fair request expect the developer to handcuff development that would benefit the player base at large for the sake of a few. Simply put, the game must be allowed to progress, and that progression will benefit the vast majority of the players. It sounds like the new options can be disabled though on lower end machines, so everyone should be ok here for the time being.