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Cloaking Devices: Are they worth it?

daeridanii#4438 daeridanii
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edited April 2016 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I believe that there are 6 separate ships that the Federation has that use cloaks. There is the intel set, the dreadnought cruisers and the tactical escort. So, your opinion: are cloaking devices really worth the money?
I understand that this will be dependent on your fighting style - I just want an overall impression.

Cloaking Devices: Are they worth it? 63 votes

Yes! Cloaks of all forms are great!
23% 15 votes
Yes, but only if it's a battle cloak.
53% 34 votes
Perhaps, but more hull points/weapons would be better.
22% 14 votes

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  • daeridanii#4438 daeridanii
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    Oh dear, I'm such a noob. Can you edit polls after you create them?
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    hmm, in PVP they are really "da shiat", but in PVE they kind of seem redundent. Not saying that you can't use them to great advantage and some insane alpha strikes, but since there is no mission where a cloak offers a whole new gameplay option or optional solution, it ain't making much of a difference to have one or not.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    There are missions where a cloak allows you to bypass enemies and proceed directly to the quest objectives. But a lot of missions have a lot of kill objectives. Those enemies you can't bypass.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    Where's the "no" option, huh?
  • conkav22conkav22 Member Posts: 8,146 Arc User
    I vote for sure why not have a cloak as long as its not built into a console
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  • daeridanii#4438 daeridanii
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    warpangel wrote: »
    Where's the "no" option, huh?
    Hence the
    daeridanii#4438 wrote: »
    Oh dear, I'm such a noob. Can you edit polls after you create them?
    I thought that enter would make a new poll option. :|

  • risingwolfshadowrisingwolfshadow Member Posts: 619 Arc User
    As useless in PvE as PvP is to Gecko. As are pilot ships, among other ships, and a few abilities too.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,317 Arc User
    At the start of combat the decloak bonus is nice, but beyond that the usefulness is limited for regular cloaks.

    Battlecloaks are more useful, but with many opponents nowadays spamming Area of effect and torpedoes dropping shields during combat is risky.

    For the cloak console the usefulness is really a flip of a coin. Decloak bonus to damage is nice, but is it enough to compensate for the "loss" of a console slot?
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Where's the "no" option, huh?

    ^ This.

    I like cloaks on my Romulan ships well enough. Not really interested in having them on my Federation ships. The folks that are fans of the cloak and want them on their Federation ships have as mentioned a few options. Seems like a non-starter at this point.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,317 Arc User
    But then again, does anyone remember that "other" cloak? Mask Energy Signature
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    To keep a long story short: each of the cloaks have their use, but it is up to the player to determine if the benefits or faults tip the scale.
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,412 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    For console cloak, I'll say no, because the loss of a console slot is too much. Slot MES on the go and you should be just fine - it is a nice ability after all, but I guess you could do the same with a console while out of combat if you have it already. I do that to close rifts in CPA and with high aux and proper flight I get by just fine, and then swap it out for something useful between cutscenes. While masked you can also hot-swap it out.

    My defiant, fed dreadnought, and avengers still don't have cloak, though it would be nice to have access to on occasion. Intels are awesome with build in standard cloak, and I make frequent use of it in KDF and Rom ships be it standard battle or enhanced to the point that jumping in non-cloaking ships feels wrong.

    Short version: buy it if you can afford the loss of a console slot and like to mix a bit of role play, otherwise get proper intels which also get their group MES effect, or just go Rom or KDF - or lobi/lockbox cause faction uniqueness is out the window and greed is eternal.
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  • kwyjenkwyjen Member Posts: 133 Arc User
    Built in Battle cloak yes... console cloak no.. I would not use a console slot solely for cloak ability.
  • autumnturningautumnturning Member Posts: 743 Arc User
    Enhanced Battle Cloak ... totally worth it! B)

    Everything else? Meh (to me).
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    It's worth it on the Intel ships because the cloak is an innate ability.. like it should be.

    As for the other ships, you need to use a console slot just to cloak and no, that's not worth it.
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  • kavasekavase Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    Most of my ships have cloak built in and I forget I have it consistently. I don't find it useful at all personally.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Built in cloaks are worth it for sure. The 3 fed Intel ships all have the ability to do some really nasty things coming right out of cloak, even the Scryer science vessel (which is probably even more lethal as it can drop a lot of shield bypassing science stuff on an unsuspecting enemy). Plus the Intel vessels have warp signature masking which can help you hide even when not cloaked.

    Battle cloaks are more useful but limited to only certain ships and factions. That said I find using the Daemosh on my fed main is a wonderful luxury, being able to play with a battle cloak along with all the other tricks that Feds normally have availible.

    Console cloaks I would say are not worth it unless you can spare the console slot on your build. They will nearly always mean you need to drop something else (DPS, armour, shield boosts) to make room for them and even then they are only s normal cloak.
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  • puckerbrushpuckerbrush Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Where's the "no" option, huh?

    No
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  • scrooge69scrooge69 Member Posts: 1,108 Arc User
    I vote NO
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  • sirmaydaysirmayday Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    I run the full 'stealth fighter' set on my T6 Tactical Escort, and stuff sure melts quick when I fire off a CSV coming out of cloak, but I have to admit that similar, more consistent, and overall superior results would almost certainly be achieved replacing those two consoles with Embassy consoles. I run it because I enjoy it, but I'm pretty sure there're more effective ways of doing things.

    That said, (battle) cloaks have their place. The mirror invasion event can be made easier by having one player seal rifts/power emmitters and using a cloak to keep the Terrans offer their back.
  • tarran61tarran61 Member Posts: 827 Arc User
    Yes, but only if it's a battle cloak., that's built into the ship, not two or 3 consoles.
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  • innuwarriorinnuwarrior Member Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    Cloak is nice, Intel are really nice for the cloak without console. As many have said losing 1 console slot for a cloak isn't that great unless you have an ambush/specialized built. Battlecloak are best and enhance battlecloak the best you can have. One thing is, fed are limited to 5 sec ambush. I love my remans with 23 sec ambush bonus, even a regular romulan can extend that to 14 sec. A superior infiltrator boff for regular fed would be nice, or even regular kdf player.
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  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    They aren't actually all that useful in PvP, given you can detect them fairly simply and have been able to for years; Fed-Roms especially can do hitting cloaked ships while cloaked, because torp-build T'varo/Malem and T3 Nebula console.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    Not really unless it is built into the ship.

    So much more can be done by swapping the cloaking console for something more useful..
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  • themartianthemartian Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    I like having a cloaking device on my Defiant. The slot could almost certainly be put to better use, but I like it and I don't feel like my ship is really hindered by it.
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  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    Heh I am kdf and rom player mostly and I havent cloaked in forever. Its fun, but time you cloak and try to ambush anything (unless playing solo) its already dead.
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