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The "patch notes" say absolutely nothing about any client-side fixes this time, just "back-end server updates", but we still have to download 480 megabytes? That's an awful lot of "nothing". What does it do?
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Some changes are not worth explaining.
It was the only thing that made the event bearable if you run lots of alts.
How many ya want?
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Because reasons.
More seriously: as an example, if they improved server performance by changing how BFAW messages from the client are processed, that change could require having the client send the message differently.
I have lots of characters too and this bug was helping to make this needlessly grindy event bearable. There are countless bugs in this game, but this is the one they fix and they don't even have the guts to tell people.
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Actually, Tacofangs mentioned it a few days ago on the forums, so many people already knew it was coming. (He even said "exploit while you can."
Often as a new season release nears, a lot of pre-patching and early build updates are sent through to the client through maintenance day so that each player doesn't have to download 10 to 15 GB for the season update. Data transmission costs a company money and in some instances, gradual pre-patching is better and more cost effective than doing it all on launch day. It also takes into account that not all customers/players have high-bandwidth connections that can download 10 to 15 GB on patch day.
This "shortcut" is called an exploit. Exploits are to be closed and the map was not functioning as intended, therefore it was closed.
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While I commend Taco's honesty, his mentioning it on the forums is not an official announcement from Cryptic. That's what patch notes are for. Not putting it in the patch notes brings them in to question. Every time they're accused of a stealth nerf to an item or power, players can point to this as evidence that Cryptic make changes without telling the players. Every time a patch note says it's just server updates, players can now wonder what else is getting "fixed".
But it does also bring us back to the larger issue. Bugs that benefit players get fixed with stunning alacrity, but anything else can some times take years without even being commented on by the developers.
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Your scare quotes around "fixed" don't change the fact that it was a bug, and was fixed. It was not a stealth nerf so is not evidence that Cryptic intentionally nerfs behind our backs.
Of course you can change the meaning of "nerf" to include "bug fixes I don't like because the bug benefited me" but that is not the proper meaning.
There could be any number of reasons. For example, if they made changes to the way certain powers or effects are handled on the server side, then it could require updates to client side files to properly interact with new functionality. There are plenty of reasons why server side changes could require updates to client side files. After things are changed on the server side, the client has to know how to interact with the changes.
In this case though, we know there was at least a change or two to 'The Breach.' Why those changes were not listed is unclear, but they clearly should have been.
Well, that's pretty much what every developer does, so you can't really say Cryptic is doing anything out of the ordinary. The event was two thirds of the way over and people were exploting an unintended loophole. (I'm not saying if that is bad or good, there was an upside in it being quicker making alt grinding easier but there was also a downside for those who used the trench run to grind starship mastery points on alts; and I can see logic on both sides of that argument.) But again, it is standard practice these days to close loopholes quickly, for example just like how the last couple patches for Fallout 4 have patched just about every single caps, xp, or settlement material glitch for consoles (Even though its a single player game and most of those glitches did not harm saves, not to mention that PC players can still use the Dev console to add as much as they want) even though many frequently reported bugs have yet to be patched. (I'm glaring at you Vault 81.
Now, if you will all excuse me, I'll be getting back to endlessly scouring the Boston wasteland for lightbulbs, hotplates, and coffee cups... because my shack foundation castle on Spectacle Island needs a lighting system and I can't duplicate copper or ceramic shipments in the workbench anymore even though the bug that made them disappear last month dosen't look like its getting fixed before Automatron... sigh.
With the breach, yes it was mentioned on here, I read the post. And honestly I don't see why "extended barrier ever so slightly" should really warrant the time taken to type it in the patch notes. Anyone who knowingly used it blatantly knew it was a booboo so should have expected it to be fixed sometime or another.
I run a fair few alts and am a few days behind now but its only a min or two extra without the exploit so its no major biggy really.
But then whilst I knew about (and benefitted from others using) the exploit I never actually did it myself.
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Eh. I'd say the Breach thingy was a stealth-exploit, rather than a stealth-nerf.
I agree, of all the bugs in the game, this one, really? And in such a underhanded manner too, no notes, no mention, just a stealth nerf. This is why more players are leaving the game, the total lack of respect you show the playerbase. I mean really, where's the harm in a little shortcut, and if it totally offended someone's sensibilities, why not openly state: Hey, we're changing this for this reason. I am seriously starting to revise my opinions on the game, the devs and that prat @neverwintergod that keeps messing with the game exactly because of things like this.
O, FFS, man, if your entire game experience was hinging on that wee exploit, causing you to fabricate this tinfoil hat out of virtually nothing, then rue the day they actually fix something major!
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That diagram that pops up on your screen every single time you enter the instance makes it abundantly clear what's expected of you. That you found a crack in an invisible wall is not cleverness.
Well, if they were fixing issues with the Breach, they could say "Fixing issues with The Breach" without specifying that it was closing an exploit.
It's simple laziness on their part.
Its not laziness. It's 100% deliberate.
Clearly you have some issues with reading properly, the point was, is and will always be that they continually make small/med/large changes without informing the players. I did not fabricate anything, it's all fact . Just how many patches have ther been recently that showed next to nothing on notes for massive patches? What else was changed/fixed without players being informed? What will your response be next time when they change something you find integral without saying a word?
And as for that dunce rattling on about exploits, how in hell does shaving a few minutes off an already boring Stf make an exploit? Who was unjustly enriched, where is the unfair advantage that earmarks exploits? Figure out what is being discussed before throwing in your 2 cents.
Getting to the last prat, I never touted any cleverness - in fact, you seem to lack understanding of the meaning of that word. And while you're looking it up, referencing stealth might be a good idea too.
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