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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    azrael605 wrote: »
    I've been dreaming about a third GB since I was a kid in the early 90's. It is by far my most wished for sequel ever.

    This is NOT what I have wanted for all these years, and takes a massive dump on everything I loved about it.

    Now, I don't mind female GBs, I don't think that in and of itself is an issue, although I certainly would have prefered a mixed, 2 male 2 female team with a female leader. My problem is that this is not a sequel, and from this trailer doesn't seem to have that perfect combination of suspense and comedy that made the original so good. I know Sony flat out refused to do a true sequel without Bill Murray, but a true sequel with Ray and Winston overseeing a new team, with Oscar as one of the new members, would have been amazing even without the Venkman character. Considering 95% of remakes end up being a steaming pile, I don't think all this criticism is unwarranted either. Reboots like Jurassic World can work, but remakes almost universally suck.

    I will still see the movie, but only so I can give examples when I complain about it.

    Eddie Murphy's Nutty Professor was quite decent, while I am of the opinion that Jerry Lewis's original was not (and my dad has MD so we owe Jerry a lot). Point being, if you really start digging into what is or isn't a remake your going to find that your "95%" number is not only hyperbole but complete BS. The Jim Caviezel Count of Monte Cristo was great, the one from 1975 was not, the even older ones were worse. There have been multiple very good Three Musketeers films, and multiple bad ones. The new Point Break, well I haven't seen it, but I was never all that impressed with the original so the new one doesn't have to do much more than erase the memory of Swayze's non-acting and Keanu's blank expressions.

    Then you have to factor in people's differing opinions on various things, for instance, the new Total Recall scored extra points with me just for not having Arnold in it, while for other people of course that's entirely different.

    The movies you mention could easily fall into the 5-10% that aren't terrible, but they are only a small fraction of the remakes Hollywood churns out. When I say that remakes almost always suck, I'm referring to movies like The Fog and all the other easily forgotten horrible remakes.

    I don't think you realize how many remakes are actually made, for every "Nutty Professor" there are at least 9 garbage movies.
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  • minna118minna118 Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    man that trailer was cringe worthy. Nothing in there to make go see it which is the point of trailers to get people excited to see a movie.
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    r24681012 wrote: »
    trailer looks terrible the first 2 movies were serious/comedy this just seems to be a comedy parody never liked the fact they made it all female my fears are justified

    Yeah cause a minute and a half trailer tells you any meaningful information about a movie *rollseyes*
    By that logic, trailers are worthless...

    So what you seriously think you can judge if a movie is bad or not by a trailer? Funny joke.
    Did I say that? Please point out where I said that...

    The joke is well and truly on you, my friend, because with your half-a55ed attempt to deflect the criticism and to one up someone, yousuccessfully invalidated the concept of a trailer in any capacity, good or bad. Kudos B)
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Oh by the way, Episode VII was very good, enjoyed it more than I did watching Jedi in the theater during its original theatrical release. Might not have quite reached Empire level, but most people exaggerate how good Empire was anyway.
    Glad you enjoyed it, but I still don't aim on ever watching it...
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    Christ.............what a load.....poor Ecto!!!

    Looks like a cheap fan made trailer. Think JJ directed it.

    Nah, there wasn't any lens flare ;)
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    r24681012 wrote: »
    trailer looks terrible the first 2 movies were serious/comedy this just seems to be a comedy parody never liked the fact they made it all female my fears are justified

    Yeah cause a minute and a half trailer tells you any meaningful information about a movie *rollseyes*
    By that logic, trailers are worthless...

    So what you seriously think you can judge if a movie is bad or not by a trailer? Funny joke.
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Oh by the way, Episode VII was very good, enjoyed it more than I did watching Jedi in the theater during its original theatrical release. Might not have quite reached Empire level, but most people exaggerate how good Empire was anyway.
    Glad you enjoyed it, but I still don't aim on ever watching it...

    Your not missing anything, it's just A New Hope with lens flare added.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    azrael605 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    r24681012 wrote: »
    trailer looks terrible the first 2 movies were serious/comedy this just seems to be a comedy parody never liked the fact they made it all female my fears are justified

    Yeah cause a minute and a half trailer tells you any meaningful information about a movie *rollseyes*
    By that logic, trailers are worthless...

    So what you seriously think you can judge if a movie is bad or not by a trailer? Funny joke.
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Oh by the way, Episode VII was very good, enjoyed it more than I did watching Jedi in the theater during its original theatrical release. Might not have quite reached Empire level, but most people exaggerate how good Empire was anyway.
    Glad you enjoyed it, but I still don't aim on ever watching it...

    Your not missing anything, it's just A New Hope with lens flare added.

    No it isn't.​​
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    r24681012 wrote: »
    trailer looks terrible the first 2 movies were serious/comedy this just seems to be a comedy parody never liked the fact they made it all female my fears are justified

    Yeah cause a minute and a half trailer tells you any meaningful information about a movie *rollseyes*
    By that logic, trailers are worthless...

    So what you seriously think you can judge if a movie is bad or not by a trailer? Funny joke.
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Oh by the way, Episode VII was very good, enjoyed it more than I did watching Jedi in the theater during its original theatrical release. Might not have quite reached Empire level, but most people exaggerate how good Empire was anyway.
    Glad you enjoyed it, but I still don't aim on ever watching it...

    Your not missing anything, it's just A New Hope with lens flare added.

    No it isn't.​​

    Give me one element that was not either copied from a new hope, or copied from the old EU. There isn't a single original idea in the force awakens
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    r24681012 wrote: »
    trailer looks terrible the first 2 movies were serious/comedy this just seems to be a comedy parody never liked the fact they made it all female my fears are justified

    Yeah cause a minute and a half trailer tells you any meaningful information about a movie *rollseyes*
    By that logic, trailers are worthless...

    So what you seriously think you can judge if a movie is bad or not by a trailer? Funny joke.
    Did I say that? Please point out where I said that...

    The joke is well and truly on you, my friend, because with your half-a55ed attempt to deflect the criticism and to one up someone, yousuccessfully invalidated the concept of a trailer in any capacity, good or bad. Kudos B)
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Oh by the way, Episode VII was very good, enjoyed it more than I did watching Jedi in the theater during its original theatrical release. Might not have quite reached Empire level, but most people exaggerate how good Empire was anyway.
    Glad you enjoyed it, but I still don't aim on ever watching it...

    Hmm, you completely missed my point. I
    Noo, but I will walk you through how you are still missing the point I was making...
    azrael605 wrote: »
    I said you can't get any meaningful information from a minute and a half trailer (which is simple math btw 2 hour movie minus 1.5 minute trailer),
    Again, proving my point... Trailers exist solely to generate and capture interest in the movie, do they not? If, by your own words, one cannot 'get any meaningful information' from them, then they are not fit for the purpose of generating or capturing interest...
    azrael605 wrote: »
    and your statement about Episode VII which you clearly decided to judge by it's trailer (or your just one of those "its JJ so I hate it" people) I can quite clearly infer that you believe it possible to judge a film by its trailer.
    Ooh, assumptions... I like assumptions... :D Actually, my decision to not watch Episode VII has nothing to do with the trailer or JJ, but the numerous reviews of the movie written by people who had seen it, and who reported what sounds like a sorry re-working of New Hope, with some butchered EU characters thrown in for the lols. That sounded like something I have no interest in watching... But good on you for working with your assumptions and jumping to a conclusion :D
    azrael605 wrote: »
    As for one-up manship... never have cared about that, can't imagine I ever will.
    If that was true, why did you respond to the posts I made, posting assumptions and excuses for logic, which would embarrass a Vulcan pre-schooler?

    By the way:
    azrael605 wrote: »
    So what you seriously think you can judge if a movie is bad or not by a trailer? Funny joke.
    Did I say that? Please point out where I said that...
    Still waiting for you to point out where I actually said that...

  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    Out of some of the trailers I've seen, only one right now is a definite "NO" to me seeing the movie based on the Trailer alone.
    imdb.com/title/tt3072482/ Hardcore Henry is... no. Just no. First Person works just fine for video games, but a MOVIE? That one's gonna bomb, and I won't watch it because I forsee motion sickness.

    I fully intend to see Ghostbusters because it looks fun.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,489 Arc User
    If the devs decided that they ever want to revamp our ingame ghostbuster gun then they will have a (one man?) riot on their hands.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    questerius wrote: »
    If the devs decided that they ever want to revamp our ingame ghostbuster gun then they will have a (one man?) riot on their hands.

    I could see them adding a backpack to it. :p
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    If the devs decided that they ever want to revamp our ingame ghostbuster gun then they will have a (one man?) riot on their hands.

    I could see them adding a backpack to it. :p

    One of my characters has a whole ghostbusters outfit using the enterprise uniforn (colored gray), an engineer kit backpack, and that gun, it's very close to the real thing.

    All this talk about the new movie has me itching to play the game again, might have to grab it on PC. Now that was the kind of ghostbusters sequel I always wanted.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    One of my characters has a whole ghostbusters outfit using the enterprise uniforn (colored gray), an engineer kit backpack, and that gun, it's very close to the real thing.

    All this talk about the new movie has me itching to play the game again, might have to grab it on PC. Now that was the kind of ghostbusters sequel I always wanted.

    Hehe... I'm gonna have to try that outfit myself. Made a pretty good Black Widow (Avengers) and Tanya Adams (C&C Red Alert 3). Granted that's on my Trill main so they do have Trill Spots, but that's beside the point. My Trill can COSPLAY! B)
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    artan42 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    r24681012 wrote: »
    trailer looks terrible the first 2 movies were serious/comedy this just seems to be a comedy parody never liked the fact they made it all female my fears are justified

    Yeah cause a minute and a half trailer tells you any meaningful information about a movie *rollseyes*
    By that logic, trailers are worthless...

    So what you seriously think you can judge if a movie is bad or not by a trailer? Funny joke.
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Oh by the way, Episode VII was very good, enjoyed it more than I did watching Jedi in the theater during its original theatrical release. Might not have quite reached Empire level, but most people exaggerate how good Empire was anyway.
    Glad you enjoyed it, but I still don't aim on ever watching it...

    Your not missing anything, it's just A New Hope with lens flare added.

    No it isn't.

    Give me one element that was not either copied from a new hope, or copied from the old EU. There isn't a single original idea in the force awakens

    No. Considering you've elected to ignore them from the film you're hardly going to accept it from some guy on the internet.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,951 Arc User
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    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    r24681012 wrote: »
    trailer looks terrible the first 2 movies were serious/comedy this just seems to be a comedy parody never liked the fact they made it all female my fears are justified

    Yeah cause a minute and a half trailer tells you any meaningful information about a movie *rollseyes*
    By that logic, trailers are worthless...

    So what you seriously think you can judge if a movie is bad or not by a trailer? Funny joke.
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Oh by the way, Episode VII was very good, enjoyed it more than I did watching Jedi in the theater during its original theatrical release. Might not have quite reached Empire level, but most people exaggerate how good Empire was anyway.
    Glad you enjoyed it, but I still don't aim on ever watching it...

    Your not missing anything, it's just A New Hope with lens flare added.

    No it isn't.

    Give me one element that was not either copied from a new hope, or copied from the old EU. There isn't a single original idea in the force awakens

    No. Considering you've elected to ignore them from the film you're hardly going to accept it from some guy on the internet.​​

    I didn't ignore them, they were non existent. If you can give examples I'd happily accept them, but as I see it:

    Hero grew up as a nobody on a desert planet, is given anakin skywalkers lightsaber, and goes off to become a jedi

    Evil super weapon is used to kill lots of people

    Han solo rescues a woman taken prisoner aboard the evil super weapon

    Pilot does a trench run, then flies inside said superweapon and destroys it just as it's about to destroy the good guy base

    Mentor dies

    Kylo ren = extra whiny Darth Cadeus (aka Jacen Solo) (eu)

    Starkiller base = oversized Suncrusher (eu)

    BB-8 = orange R2-D2

    I ask again, where is the originality?



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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    Kylo ren = extra whiny Darth Cadeus (aka Jacen Solo) (eu)
    Now now, to be fair, KYpp soLO durRon jacEN... ;)

    Post edited by marcusdkane on
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    Hero grew up as a nobody on a desert planet, is given anakin skywalkers lightsaber, and goes off to become a jedi

    I'll give you the desert planet. I don't think Rey went off with the intent to become a Jedi. Seemed to me more like she was swept up in everything and experimented at one point.
    Evil super weapon is used to kill lots of people

    Well... the superweapon concept isn't unique to Star Wars. Although I will say that the Empire and its successor state does seem to like them. I'm still wondering how they made Starkiller Base without anyone noticing or it taking hundreds of years to convert a planet into basically a two shot weapon.
    Han solo rescues a woman taken prisoner aboard the evil super weapon

    Actually... I believe the intent was to rescue Rey, however, she kinda rescued herself if I remember correctly.
    Pilot does a trench run, then flies inside said superweapon and destroys it just as it's about to destroy the good guy base

    Ok... I'll give you that one. Poe Dameron did kinda go all Top Gun Luke Skywalker/Christopher Blair on the reactor.
    Mentor dies

    If you're referring to Han... I think he saw her more like a daughter or something because he saw a bit of himself in her. Also she pegged the Falcon and her quirks pretty quickly. Also... he said Chewie liked her.
    Kylo ren = extra whiny Darth Cadeus (aka Jacen Solo) (eu)

    As I am unfamiliar with Cadeus... I can't say one way or the other. Although I did love how he lost his temper and vented on innocent objects.
    Starkiller base = oversized Suncrusher (eu)

    I'd say more like an oversized Death Star. The Suncrusher destroyed systems by causing the local star to go supernova. Starkiller Base just outright shot them. STILL don't know how it works.
    BB-8 = orange R2-D2

    BB-8 doesn't have quite the spunk R2 has. No droid can truly replace R2. BB-8 is more like R2's little brother or something.
    I ask again, where is the originality?

    There were quite a few nods to the original trilogy.
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Actually... I believe the intent was to rescue Rey, however, she kinda rescued herself if I remember correctly.
    A bit like Leia did, when she blasted into the garbage shute when they were pinned down? Sure, Luke and Han might have got her out of the cell, but after that, she was clearly the brains behind the operation ;)
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2016
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    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    r24681012 wrote: »
    trailer looks terrible the first 2 movies were serious/comedy this just seems to be a comedy parody never liked the fact they made it all female my fears are justified

    Yeah cause a minute and a half trailer tells you any meaningful information about a movie *rollseyes*
    By that logic, trailers are worthless...

    So what you seriously think you can judge if a movie is bad or not by a trailer? Funny joke.
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Oh by the way, Episode VII was very good, enjoyed it more than I did watching Jedi in the theater during its original theatrical release. Might not have quite reached Empire level, but most people exaggerate how good Empire was anyway.
    Glad you enjoyed it, but I still don't aim on ever watching it...

    Your not missing anything, it's just A New Hope with lens flare added.

    No it isn't.

    Give me one element that was not either copied from a new hope, or copied from the old EU. There isn't a single original idea in the force awakens

    No. Considering you've elected to ignore them from the film you're hardly going to accept it from some guy on the internet.

    I didn't ignore them, they were non existent. If you can give examples I'd happily accept them, but as I see it:

    Hero grew up as a nobody on a desert planet, is given anakin skywalkers lightsaber, and goes off to become a jedi

    Evil super weapon is used to kill lots of people

    Han solo rescues a woman taken prisoner aboard the evil super weapon

    Pilot does a trench run, then flies inside said superweapon and destroys it just as it's about to destroy the good guy base

    Mentor dies

    Kylo ren = extra whiny Darth Cadeus (aka Jacen Solo) (eu)

    Starkiller base = oversized Suncrusher (eu)

    BB-8 = orange R2-D2

    I ask again, where is the originality?



    I see what you're saying. Man, 'The Return of the Jedi' is really unoriginal right?

    Oh! You're on about 'The Force Awakens'? Funny, I don't remember the defecting Stormtrooper in ANH, I don't remember the main bad guy desperately wanting to be like his idol, I don't remember any patricide.
    Hero grew up as a nobody on a desert planet, is given anakin skywalkers lightsaber, and goes off to become a jedi

    The lightsabre thing happened much later but no, she didn't set off to become a Jedi.

    Evil super weapon is used to kill lots of people

    Because nothing else has a superweapon right?
    Han solo rescues a woman taken prisoner aboard the evil super weapon

    Han rescued nobody.

    Pilot does a trench run, then flies inside said superweapon and destroys it just as it's about to destroy the good guy base

    Copied from ANH or from RotJ or from TCW or even TPM?

    Mentor dies

    Oh, wow, you're right, how obviously a copy of ANH. Because nobodies mentor ever dies in any other film. I guess I should avoid spoiling 'Fellowship of the Ring' for you or 'Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince'.
    Kylo ren = extra whiny Darth Cadeus (aka Jacen Solo) (eu)

    Starkiller base = oversized Suncrusher (eu)

    The EU was a steaming pile of unoriginal, self contradictory, badly written bollocks.
    BB-8 = orange R2-D2

    That's probably racist to droids or something. The two characters share nothing in common except for being droids.

    Edit: This forum's back to censoring c/rap? Are we all twelve or something?​​
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    This movie actually looks quite fun to me. The former subway worker reminded me strongly of my wife at one point ("You failed to mention that the car was a hearse." "It's a CADDY!"). I was a little disappointed to see that they're throwing Slimer in there, but Marketing probably insisted. And the plotline, as seen in the trailer, is strongly distinct from that of the original - as an example, in the first movie, getting slimed by a ghost just left you "feel[ing] so funky", while in this one it permits the ghost to possess the victim (and again I was reminded of my wife - "The power of pain compels you!").

    If all you're looking for are signs that it's a "remake", that's all you're going to find. That's more a matter of confirmation bias than real analysis, though.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    jonsills wrote: »
    I was a little disappointed to see that they're throwing Slimer in there...

    Well... Slimer is one of the most well known ghosts, if not the iconic ghost, in the whole franchise. It's probably a given that he'd appear in some form or another.
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