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T6 Dream Ship: Tal Shiar Adapted Deadnought
nikeix
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The Tal Shiar Adapted ships are what brought me back to STO after many years because I'm a huge fan of the design work that went into the Narada (you don't need a universal translator to get the message "I HATE YOU ALL" from just one glance at that silhouette). I would LOVE to see (and fly) a T6 dreadnought based on the visual and game mechanics style of those two ship, possibly with a new Console (planetary core drill) or Secondary Deflector that extends the existing set to four pieces. An 11 console, new ship skill granting spiny behemoth would by right at the top of my dream ships list.
((Plus the Narada came from the Prime timeline and you'd think it would be sort of important in the temporal plotlines the game is moving into. In the STO Universe it would appear someone associated with the Temporal Accords successfully stopped Nero's incursion. Likewise Noye might take an interest in supporting Nero & the Narada as a possible means of "wiping the stain of the Federation from history".))
((Plus the Narada came from the Prime timeline and you'd think it would be sort of important in the temporal plotlines the game is moving into. In the STO Universe it would appear someone associated with the Temporal Accords successfully stopped Nero's incursion. Likewise Noye might take an interest in supporting Nero & the Narada as a possible means of "wiping the stain of the Federation from history".))
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My dream ship doesn't need to be the Narada, I'd just like to see a T6 dreadnought of similar styling and around the same size as the Tarantula (i.e. something we know the game engine can cope with).
Interestingly the guys doing those incredible figures do movie-based over-sized figs as special releases. The Vengeance looks amazing and they've indicated they will be doing the Narada later on in the run. I'm so going to buy that
Yeah... I've been thinking making it a Science Dreadnought is the way to go, too. I've got Secondary Deflector on the brain and the two existing Tal Shiar Adapted ships both have the sensor lock toggle of science ships.
The ones we have in-game, they clearly went back and took their cues from the original design sketchs rather than what appeared in the movie. Same principle could apply to a T6.
It would be kinda cool to have this sort of 'proto-sphere' with the thalaron wings stuck open with that cool spiky webbing
Not gonna happen its even in the FCT that its not gonna happen, please make another wish
Using the Tal Shiar cores on other ships would be nice especially if it had a visual effect.
Why? Personally I'd rather run another core on my TSABC, but I want the three-set bonus from it and the two ship consoles.
You can get a HullR core from the Kobali ship if you want that aspect (and it's a higher amount at the same mark and rarity). Also, the warp bonus doesn't stack with the Borg Engines and is of the same magnitude anyway, so no loss there once the toon can level Borg Rep.
A 4 piece borg set bonus for starters. Not to mention a bit of role-play. My assimilated Intrepid requires a borgified warp core.
So basically, the Federation is an organization that exists to protect and preserve peace. I guess we do an awful lot of killing though. Oh well, that isn't important, for now let's roll up our sleeves and get to work.
There's no four-piece Borg set, at least not since the Reputation system introduction and the pulling of the Assimilated console from being part of the Deflector/Shield/Engine set. This core is part of a ship set, but not either of the sets you can get from Omega Rep.
Fair enough on the RP aspects.
Now an entirely new core that fits the current warp core meta, that would be neat, particularly if it counted for the old TSA three-set. Something power enhancing, like a big dose of [EPS], [W->A]/[S->A], and [Amp] at UR would go a long way to making a decent core.
I suppose a new ship console would also mean being able to slot a third console instead, but you can bet a four-set ship set would have an interesting boost if that happens. 3 consoles would still consume quite a bit of build space, so a buff to either the 2-set or making the older consoles have useful passives would help out a bit, though the buffs to older set bonuses so far is kinda all over the place (if they even get any).
With the Tholian Tarantula Dread release, it seems they're willing to shove in a large ship into a 'normal' lockbox drop table, though the Dread is still pretty expensive compared to other standard prize ships.
Still, it's a beast. Not sure T6 would be fair.
The key word is "yet". There is no Borg 4-piece set yet.
T6 Fleet Tactical Escort... Check.
Reskinned/Retextured to look like the TV show's Defiant... Check.
Quad Phaser Cannons... Check.
Battle Cloak... Check.
Bridge that matches the TV show's Defiant... Check.
Chaffee Shuttle for shuttle missions... Check.
Chaffee Shuttle non-combat pet to follow me around in space... Check.
TR-116 Rifle... Check.
TR-116 Rifle reskinned/retextured to look like the TV show's... Optional, but hoping.
Since I got my dream ship. I hope you get yours too. Feels great
The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
Both of the existing Tal Shiar Addapted ships are a joy to fight with. They both have a nice Science sensibility with 4 blue consoles, good shield multipliers, and the Sensor Analysis toggle. They also have 11 consoles each, making a pretty good case that they are near-T6 already, and really only suffer from coming out prior to the specialization system.
In my perfect world "full T6" versions require very minimal tuning: the destroyer would add a secondary deflector and change the lt. commander science slot into science/pilot. The battle cruiser would add about 5% more hull and its lt. commander science slot would become science/command.
A T6 Tal Shiar Adapted Science Dreadnought doesn't quite write itself, but you could definitely build on the features of the first two. Adapted Borg Warp core, Sensor analysis, subsystem targeting, +10 shields/+10 aux. Maybe a shrapnel missile system that goes in a weapon slot instead of a console. If you wanted to score a 'game first' to set it further apart from the Krenim Science Ship and the Paradox it could come with two of them so you can load it up front and back or double front like many science torpedo-heavy builds. Comparable to Tholian Thermionic Torpedoes - not being locked to 1 per ship.
If you're talking about the battlecruiser, well yeah... It has a 1.3 shield mod with the hull of a cruiser. Take the command battlecruisers for example on the fed side, the TSABC has both more shields and hull than the fed command battlecruiser.
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That is how it was done. Branched off in 2233. The AR exists at the same time as the Prime Universe, just like how the Mirror Universe exists at the same time. It just branched off.
Might sound weird I think another interesting idea for a activated set bonus ability would be a "release dominating nanites" that would release re-programed Borg nanites that infect an have a chance to alter the targeting systems of enemy ships within range to fire upon their allies, with the chance for the ship to turn on their allies being based on a base chance increased/decreased by the size/type of the ship as well as based on how long they have been in the range of the ship deploying the nanites.
Yeah... if that were true nobody would bother stopping any of them because they'd all be producing alternate universes no one in what they perceive as their own prime needs to give one squirt of Romulan Plasma over.
Infinite parallels are BORING. Control of the one true timeline creates fights to the bitter blood end by necessity.
Huh. I have both but I've only ever flown the Destroyer. Clearly I need to get a forklift and some ensigns and move all my toys over and try it out. I'd been distracted unlocking the Flagship skills, but that little diversion is coming to an end.
As to a T6 Tal Shiar Adapted Dreadnought having fighters... I realize fighter are all the rage presently, but I'd still like to hue closely to the original inspiration of the line and make it appropriately potent without resorting to hanger bays (if such a thing can even be done anymore