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Cryptic can we PLEASE get some kind of statement on the ongoing DDoS attacks?


Cryptic -

I know this must be as frustrating for you as it is for us. We love you guys. We love the game. But, at this point , you are letting us down. We have had ongoing DDoS attacks for WEEKS now. Whats worse, there is a guy online openly claiming responsibility for them. If your DEV team cannot stop him, then please alert the authorities and take some kind of action. Maybe you have already. But if so, you have not communicated with us. Each night we get the generic "we are looking into it" response while this guy goes all over Twitter bragging about his exploits. SAY SOMETHING. DO SOMETHING. At a bare minimum , tell US whats happening. Please.

thanks.

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  • xapocalypseponyxxapocalypseponyx Member Posts: 577 Arc User
  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    See the dev tracker.

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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    taken directly from there.

    [–]LaughingTrendyPWE Community Manager 32 points 6 hours ago*

    Just to be clear, we have been doing things and are continuing to be doing more. I cannot elaborate due to security measures and such. However, just to be clear there have been DDOSes that we have prevented. We don't advertise when an attack fails. Nor do we declare in full and public detail what we're doing as countermeasures because

    -that is an extremely dumb thing to do-

    Seriously. Even saying "ok we implemented something but we're not going to declare what" means that we made a change which an attacker could see and adjust before committing another bot attack.

    Therefore, I can only go so far as to reiterate my previous statement that we have been doing things and are doing more things.

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  • tinyfistedtinyfisted Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    wdnobile wrote: »
    At a bare minimum , tell US whats happening. Please.

    Security-wise, it would be an extremely bad idea for them to talk about what they're doing, or when, or how. You're just going to have to trust that they are working on it.
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  • kuldrathkuldrath Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    what you want cryptic to let you know what is going on silly. hell i put in an in-game ticket and had to log on to the website to find out the responce they have the worst customer service ever and there devs have there heads so far up ther owns TRIBBLE thay can't even stop the game from getting ddos every day here is an idea when i login make me prove i'm not a bot i played a game yesterday that between matches made me do it. i'm really thinking about switching games or at least i'm going to stop spending money on this one good job cryptic
  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    And coming from a 2 post member where ment to take your post how?

    sorry but flaming is not good. . . @pwlaughingtrendy. . its hammer time. .
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  • kuldrathkuldrath Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    thats the responce i expected from cryptic
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
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  • yolduryoldur Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    wdnobile wrote: »
    We love you guys. We love the game.

    Please speak only for yourself. Me, I do NOT love Cryptic, I think they are doing a bad job and mess around with Star Trek.

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  • wdnobilewdnobile Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    This may be my second, now third post - but ive been in the game off and on since beta -this latest go around ive been playing daily since October. Not flaming. Asking for information. Got an education from the above posters. Makes sense - hadn't thought of it that way previously.
  • omega6theta1omega6theta1 Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    yoldur wrote: »
    wdnobile wrote: »
    We love you guys. We love the game.

    Please speak only for yourself. Me, I do NOT love Cryptic, I think they are doing a bad job and mess around with Star Trek.

    Not to be snide here but... There are other games out there.

  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    kuldrath wrote: »
    what you want cryptic to let you know what is going on silly. hell i put in an in-game ticket and had to log on to the website to find out the responce they have the worst customer service ever and there devs have there heads so far up ther owns TRIBBLE thay can't even stop the game from getting ddos every day here is an idea when i login make me prove i'm not a bot i played a game yesterday that between matches made me do it. i'm really thinking about switching games or at least i'm going to stop spending money on this one good job cryptic

    Not exactly the way to win friends and influence people, chief. If you had even the faintest friggin' idea of how hard it is to deal with things like this, you'd be more polite and respectful, but because you don't and assume everything gets done with the wave of a hand (not yours, of course, because you couldn't be bothered anyway) you post obnoxious foolishness like that.

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I love how people think DDoS are just the easiest thing in the universe to stop or that Cryptic alone suffers from them or the inability to stop them....

    news flash... much bigger companies have been hit, and harder by these, they are near impossible to stop completely.
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  • happyhappyj0yj0yhappyhappyj0yj0y Member Posts: 699 Arc User
    taken directly from there.

    [–]LaughingTrendyPWE Community Manager 32 points 6 hours ago*

    Just to be clear, we have been doing things and are continuing to be doing more. I cannot elaborate due to security measures and such. However, just to be clear there have been DDOSes that we have prevented. We don't advertise when an attack fails. Nor do we declare in full and public detail what we're doing as countermeasures because

    -that is an extremely dumb thing to do-

    Seriously. Even saying "ok we implemented something but we're not going to declare what" means that we made a change which an attacker could see and adjust before committing another bot attack.

    Therefore, I can only go so far as to reiterate my previous statement that we have been doing things and are doing more things.

    You know what would make this kind of response easier to swallow? If it were four and a half months ago.

    This has been going on pretty much nightly for (at least) five months during some peoples' prime hours.

    Every time this happens they seem powerless to stop it. This guy, according to his Twitter, seems to single-handedly trounce their servers from the point he decides to do it, until the point he tells everyone he's bored and calling it a night. From an outsider's perspective they've... done nothing. They say they've done stuff, prevented attacks... but, we certainly can't see that. What we can see is the servers going down regularly. There has been little-to-no visible change in either their response, nor his actions. In five months.

    What do we have to go on? Trendy's word, and absolutely no results we can see.

    Keep in mind, though STO has gone "Free to Play" it still offers a subscription. People are paying for access that is being denied to them.

    After a certain point Cryptic should probably start actually showing some kind of results. And again; five months. Nearing half a year now. Where are they? Where are our results? Should we expect them next month? Six more after that for the even year? In time for the seventh anniversary? Seriously, when?

    If someone charged some Zen to their account, then spent it all in-game and did a charge back on their credit card and Cryptic had the funds yanked from them... would Cryptic be content to let that slide for five months as the person was telling them, "Well... I promise you I'm sorting this out with my bank. I'm not gonna tell you how, or when it will get cleared up, but I promise you I am totally working on it and at some point maybe you'll see something from it!"...? Would they get to keep all the stuff they bought with that Zen? Somehow I don't think so...
    valoreah wrote: »
    I imagine they are doing something about it. Continued attacks like this are definitely hurting business.

    Yes, but for all we know that "something" is crying and binge drinking.
    I love how people think DDoS are just the easiest thing in the universe to stop or that Cryptic alone suffers from them or the inability to stop them....

    news flash... much bigger companies have been hit, and harder by these, they are near impossible to stop completely.

    Remind me what companies have been taken offline, basically nightly, for five straight months... because I can't think of one. Even companies and organizations targeted by large, organized hacker groups don't go down this often for this long. And Cryptic is, apparently, targeted by one guy who openly taunts them on Twitter.
  • tinyfistedtinyfisted Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    Every time this happens they seem powerless to stop it.

    That's because Cryptic _is_ largely powerless to stop it. Let me put it this way: XBox Live _and_ PSN have both been taken out at times by DDOS, and Microsoft and Sony _both_ have the resources and means to protect themselves. They _are_ their own backbone providers.

    Cryptic is a _small_ company. They do _not_ have the resources and means to _force_ the backbone providers to help on a weekend, nor the influence to force the FBI to get involved, today.

    We get it. You're frustrated. We all are. This problem is more complicated than you think, and you should probably do some research on what's actually involved in the attack (and in defending against it), before you make demands.
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  • jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    It is understandable people are upset, but that's not a reason to go full-rage on the forums. Once again, this helps no-one.
    There is a topic from LaughingTrendy about today's issues - if you must, keept the discussion here:
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