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chrisevans34
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So i am really looking forward to and Cant wait for a Tier 6 dyson ship, im really enjoying flying around in my KDF Tactical dyson Destroyer 
What id also like is the ability to Craft more Proton weapons! Am having to settle with protonic Polaron weapons which are ok, But id prefer more proton weapons, to go with the experimental proton weapon and the proton Dual Heavy Cannons......
What id also like is the ability to Craft more Proton weapons!
Am having to settle with protonic Polaron weapons which are ok, But id prefer more proton weapons, to go with the experimental proton weapon and the proton Dual Heavy Cannons...... 0
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Hell the only one i have is the event ship and that's only cause rommies have no good t5 or 6 sci ships.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
No, he isn't sure. Did you see where he said "correct me if I'm wrong" and "my take"?
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Yes, they are T5 Science ships for the KDF and RR something that is sorely missing from those faction's ship lineup. But in an interview with Priority One Podcast Al "Captain Gecko" Rivera made it abundantly clear that science ship were not popular with the KDF and RR. I believe he mentioned something like selling a dozen or so of them being purchased per week at best for the KDF and RR factions.
On the Fed side, it was kinda "meh". Much better science ships already existed so what was the point? Plus I think all the ships were buggy when released so that must have hurt sales as well. Most people would not buy "broken" ships hoping that they will be fixed soon by the developer.
While both of the KDF and RR looked nice, I don't recall a lot of people liking the looks of the Federation variant.
They are re-selling the flagships even the KDF one. You can be sure that they are going to re-sell every ship as a T6 before this cow tips over.
I wouldnt mind one either if 1)There were more proton weapons to load it with OR 2)They made that proton cannon removable
I cannot recall seeing any recently, since I started playing again.
Of course... Never say never. Perhaps with some tweaking and new hulls, Cryptic may take the risk of putting out a T6 version. Will probably be on the bottom of their "to do" list, though...
The two information I remember the devs saying:
1) 3-Packs are popular and work well for them. They never stated any explicit exceptions.
2) Science Vessels are not as popular as other types of ships. (I think this is not just a KDF or RR issue, the specific issue for the KDF and RR is that they are generally not as popular as FED, I think.)
Those two aren't mutally exclusive - a Science 3-pack might be better for revenue than just a single Science Vessel, but not as good as a Cruiser or Escort 3-pack.
Bugs, set items scattered to the 4 winds, being the first 9-ship mega pack which blew a lot of people's minds at the time, and a near-universal hatred of the near-white texture. People all over the place were asking for faction style textures but Cryptic was not having any of that. Cryptic changed their minds and implemented it live on around Delta Rising. WAY too late.
There's also another huge fail on the DSDs... The Proton DHCs.
1. There are only 2 Proton damage weapons in the game. These and the Experimental Proton Weapon from Dyson Rep. Cryptic failed to expand upon Proton damage, so these weapons were a dead end. FAIL.
2. The Proton DHCs were only usable in "Destroyer Mode" of the DSD. So to use it, you had to switch outside of being a Science Vessel. FAIL.
It would have been interesting if the DSDs had an arsenal of hard hitting Proton weaponry available to it and that it could have been used in all modes. It would have synergized well with the Proton-damage oriented DSD-only consoles. But of course that didn't happen.
FAIL
There's a lot of FAIL written all over the DSDs. Statistically, they get the job done. They're also one of the very few Non-Premium ship selections for KDF & Rom players for Science Vessels. For the Feds, there were far superior Science Vessels already when the DSDs came out, and today, they have access to even better Science Vessels. But there's a lot of bad history with these average ships.
If they were to get the T6 treatment, Cryptic has to drastically change these things.
I've seen 3 roms and 2 klingons using it in the last 10d or so... not counting the 2 alts I have in theirs atm
I have a KDF and RR that flies the anniversary versions of the DSDs.
Why? Because what other choice do I have if I want to fly a faction specific science vessel for both of those factions? Both of them will be moving on to the Krenim science vessel.
I will probably place my KDF sci captain in a Klavek Class Pilot Raptor (the "sciency" version) later this year. It's not a real science vessel since there is no sensor analysis and no Cmdr Boff science station. At least the universal console Subspace Sinkhole Generator has a "sciency" ability.
If they offered a T6 cross- faction version type of thing with the Vesta, no one would ever need touch the gimmick destroyers again.
^ 100% agreed.
Proton can work, but the most of it you're getting from the space set synergy (clickety abilities). I have a full Proton build, with 4x Epic Protonic Tact consoles. So, essentially you're boosting half Polaron, and half Proton for the clickety stuff (and maybe 2 weps, only one of which you can permanently use. FAIL. Oh yeah, and you can forget about the CrtH on those Tact consoles. FAIL.
They pretty much abandoned Proton weps before even giving them a chance. FAIL.
Personally I like the look (at least the Romulan ones - totally deliver on the idea that they were built after examining the Obelisk carrier for a while).