stardestroyer001 wrote: »
Where's the Xindi?
Since they were the primary antagonist in Enterprise, and Archer did say to Degra at one point that Xindi and Humans will one day serve aboard Federation ships, it makes sense that the Xindi have survived and are still around in the Federation. They probably still have their vessels.
tyranthraxisii wrote: »
*Edit* P.S. The Cardassian government(not true way) is not allowed to have a Military, and the Ferengi, while threatened just as much as the other powers would mostly try to play the conflict, and sides into profit.
bravecatherine wrote: »
When elephants dance, it is best for the mice to step aside.
gbw2318 wrote: »
Except that mice can give elephants pause. Besides that, though, the Iconians are portrayed like a force of nature - they'll sweep aside everything in the Milky Way indiscriminately, major powers like the Federation and Klingons and minor powers like the First Federation, Talarian Republic and Sheliak Corporate alike. That's why a vast alliance of species got together in the first place to bring down the Iconians. Every hull they can put in space and every pair of boots they can put on the ground can help against an enemy that can appear anywhere and help stretch their resources to the breaking point.
gbw2318 wrote: »
Government - Species - Assets - Source(s)Daa'Vit Confederacy - Daa'Vit - Starships - TNG Novel
First Federation - N/A - Dreadnoughts - TOS
Grigari - N/A - Mercenaries - ST Novels, DS9: The Fallen
Holy Order of the Kinshaya - Kinshaya - Starships (Third Paragraph) - ST Novels
Jarada - N/A - Warships - TNG, DS9 Novel
Kessok - N/A - Heavy Cruisers & Light Cruisers / Heavy Cruiser Image & Light Cruiser Image - ST: Bridge Commander
Melkotians - N/A - Telepaths - TOS
Miradorn - N/A - Raiders - DS9
Nyberrite Alliance - Unknown - Cruisers - DS9
Regnancy of the Carnelian Throne - Multispecies - Starships - TLE Novel
Sheliak Corporate - Sheliak - Starships - TNG
Son'a Command - Son'a - Battle Cruisers - ST: Insurrection
Talarian Republic - Talarian -Warships, Soldiers - TNG
Talosians - N/A - Telepaths - TOS
Tzenkethi Coalition - Tzenkethi - Raiders - DS9, ST Novels
Ubarrak Primacy - Ubarrak - Starships - STA Novel
Yridians - N/A - Starships - TNG, DS9
Zalkonians - N/A - Warships - TNG
Yang Xiao Long wrote:
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
altechachan wrote: »
... I do like to pretend that whenever I see players flying Tholian, Cardassian, Dominion, Ferengi, Hirogen, and other alien ships that they are "expeditionary forces" contributed by their governments to assist in the current crisis. Normally this involves ignoring the "USS" prefixes I see but yeah...
gbw2318 wrote: »
We've got this grand alliance of the Federation, the Klingon Empire and the Romulan Republic, but up against them you have the likes of the Borg, the Voth, and the Undine. What I'd like to see are some missions, maybe a season, where you move to rally the minor powers of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants to join the grand alliance since, face it, their butts are on the line too.
I'd like to see you rally the likes of the First Federation, who have those huge Fesarius class ships and haven't been heard from since TOS except for the fact that they obviously trade their tranya abroad since it was widely ordered at Quark's on DS9. My view is that the First Federation is likely the equivalent of a landlocked power now surrounded by Federation space, kind of like Switzerland surrounded by the European Union - they'll trade with others easily enough but still hang on to their sovereignty. Getting them on your side could be tricky, and I could see other powers trying to foil you at every step.
Then there are the more xenophobic races like the Sheliak Corporate, the Zalkonians, and the Talarian Republic. Rallying them would be even harder and would be a real challenge, but Sheliak ships are at least on par with the Galaxy class, and they forced the Federation to cede them several worlds in the mid 23rd Century. Zalkonian ships are on par with the Galaxy class as well, but they also have a weapon that exclusively targets a ship's crew with asphyxiation that shields are ineffective against. Plus the Zalkonians have members of their race that are undergoing evolution into non-corporeal lifeforms, who at the time of their first meeting with the Federation they were exterminating as they showed symptoms. They were on the edges of explored space in the late 2360s and would probably have a common frontier in 2409. Talarian ships were primitive compared to the Federation, but they could still provide support, just as the Deferi have been courted for the alliance against the Borg, and their ground troops are probably no slouches either.
Then there are other governments such as the Tzenkethi, the Jarada, the Holy Order of the Kinsyaha, the Regnancy of the Carnelian Throne, and the Ubarrak Primacy. I don't see all of them joining the alliance, but it would be interesting to see the STO galaxy become even more varied, and it might be interesting to see the attempts anyhow.
Might be interesting to see the Cardassian Detapa Council and the Ferengi Alliance take a more proactive role as well, see some actual Ferengi warships besides the marauders and maybe some other Cardassian vessels. After all, the Ferengi Alliance has to have some sort of fleet, or with their shady business practices they would have been easy meat for one enraged customer or other.
EDIT: A list of the various governments and/or species that could become part of the Alliance.
Government - Species - Assets - Source(s)Daa'Vit Confederacy - Daa'Vit - Starships - TNG NovelFirst Federation - N/A - Dreadnoughts - TOSGrigari - N/A - Mercenaries - ST Novels, DS9: The FallenHoly Order of the Kinshaya - Kinshaya - Starships (Third Paragraph) - ST NovelsJarada - N/A - Warships - TNG, DS9 NovelKessok - N/A - Heavy Cruisers & Light Cruisers / Heavy Cruiser Image & Light Cruiser Image - ST: Bridge CommanderMelkotians - N/A - Telepaths - TOSMiradorn - N/A - Raiders - DS9Nyberrite Alliance - Unknown - Cruisers - DS9Regnancy of the Carnelian Throne - Multispecies - Starships - TLE NovelSheliak Corporate - Sheliak - Starships - TNGSon'a Command - Son'a - Battle Cruisers - ST: InsurrectionTalarian Republic - Talarian -Warships, Soldiers - TNGTalosians - N/A - Telepaths - TOSTzenkethi Coalition - Tzenkethi - Raiders - DS9, ST NovelsUbarrak Primacy - Ubarrak - Starships - STA NovelYridians - N/A - Starships - TNG, DS9Zalkonians - N/A - Warships - TNG
lordsteve1 wrote: »
Argh....KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!
Pesky zombie thread!
bluegeek wrote: »
I like the idea... but wonder if this amounts to a diplomacy-themed FE series... which I have my doubts would ever happen.
Not everybody would enjoy playing through a diplomatic mission to the First Federation.
I'd suggest this would be a perfect idea for Foundry missions... except that I doubt the Foundry has the necessary assets to pull it off.