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The Son'a

will we ever meet them if they still exist.
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  • captaintroikacaptaintroika Member Posts: 210 Arc User
    I hope not. Insurrection was a terrible movie.
  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,166 Arc User
    Possibly.

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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    I like their ships but odds of seeing them doesn't seem great.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    well, their government may have collapsed when Ru'afo died. It's possible they are no longer a political entity.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    It would be nice to see them IF that is possible. If not, I would love to see their ships in the game. I can see them being part of a future event.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    khan1000 wrote: »
    will we ever meet them if they still exist.

    They wern't really a race. They were a band of bad kids. Whom I would assume rejoined their families after Insurrection.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Next summer event ships.​​
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  • ladytiamat666ladytiamat666 Member Posts: 276 Arc User
    Wonderful ships. It would be nice to see them added to a lockbox.
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  • mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    possibly get f.murray abraham to do voice work​​
  • alex284alex284 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    We get the Briar Patch in-game, which debuted in the same film, so there probably isn't an IP issue keeping them from appearing.

    Maybe the issue is that it was implied that they went to live on that planet in the Briar Patch where no one wants to leave so why would we meet them?
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    They wern't really a race. They were a band of bad kids. Whom I would assume rejoined their families after Insurrection.
    I'm pretty sure they were a race. The Baku didn't originate on that planet, they found it and settled there. I believe they even stated it was to get away from technology etc. The Son'a are those (from the Baku) who wanted that technological edge again.

    Considering what the Son'a we know managed to accomplish, I understood it that they went back to their former empire/faction. Where would they have got the technology to take on a Sovereign Class otherwise?

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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    alex284 wrote: »
    We get the Briar Patch in-game, which debuted in the same film, so there probably isn't an IP issue keeping them from appearing.

    Maybe the issue is that it was implied that they went to live on that planet in the Briar Patch where no one wants to leave so why would we meet them?

    We could visit the Baku planet. It supposedly makes people immortal, so those Son'a could still be there. But they also supposedly had some kind of little empire going on, which supposedly included more than two ships. And even if the Son'a in the movie were the only actual Son'a in existence, there would still be the slave races they were said to have conquered.

    And seriously, who in here doubts those Son'a ships won't eventually make their way to a lockbox near you?
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    And seriously, who in here doubts those Son'a ships won't eventually make their way to a lockbox near you?
    Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't already. I was expecting them shortly after the Dominion Lock Box, and to think of all the other stuff we've had since.

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  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    Insurrection was such a let-down after First Contact...it really was the beginning of the end.
  • mayito2009mayito2009 Member Posts: 643 Arc User
    I would love to fly this baby

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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    Last I checked @spielman1, the Romulan Republic was a breakaway faction. Look at them now. If a bunch of Pirates (Kazon) can be found in a Lock Box, then so can the Son'a. Cryptic have three very unique ships to play with here, the Collector easily has the potential to become a Carrier too.
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  • gabeoz1gabeoz1 Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    Possibly, but doubtful. Most of their race/federation dissipated centuries ago. From what we know of them, most, if not all live in the briar patch, isolated from everything else.
  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    I never understood that throw-away comment on DS9, where it said that the Son'ar had either joined or signed a non-aggression pact with the Dominion! I mean...why?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Actually, it was that the Son'a manufactured Ketracel for the Dominion. Why? well, Riker looked them up on the Ent-E computer. then he read off a list of reasons why the Feds don't like the Son'a. One of them was being Dominion allies.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    spielman1 wrote: »
    flash525 wrote: »
    Last I checked @spielman1, the Romulan Republic was a breakaway faction. Look at them now. If a bunch of Pirates (Kazon) can be found in a Lock Box, then so can the Son'a. Cryptic have three very unique ships to play with here, the Collector easily has the potential to become a Carrier too.
    The Romulan Republic is a faction not a break away state or power they have there roots in the Imperial Romulan State that Donatra started due to the fact that her and Tal'Aura where political enemies. That rejoined the the Empire that mis treated theme. It was also stated in the game that it was a civil war between the Tal Shiar and the Empire and the followers of D'Tan. List of official books that explains it.
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    ST novel: Articles of the Federation
    TNG novel: Death in Winter
    ST - Destiny novel: Mere Mortals
    #1 I don't believe Books are considered cannon.
    #2 Doesn't explain the Kazon.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Well, we don't know where the Temporal cold war story is headed next.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    Well, we don't know where the Temporal cold war story is headed next.

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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    spielman1 wrote: »
    #1 your opinion but officially the books are just as cannon as the movies and episodes if they are not part of the Expanded universe{Star Trek Expanded Universe series.
    @f2pdrakron has already cleared this up, so yeah... Looks like you're wrong here.
    spielman1 wrote: »
    #2 They where a slave race that overthrew there masters and stole there technology http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Kazon
    By that very definition, the Son'a are no different. If we are to believe that the Son'a are merely a minority of Baku that left, then we could argue they were slaves to their [then] society; they wanted out, so they acquired their technology and went back into space.

    The point I was trying to make though, is that considering what ships we have seen in lock boxes already, to use the reason that we wont/cant have the Son'a because they're not a faction is just stupid. We've got the Kazon ships, the Ferengi ships, we've even got the Year of Hell alliance ships. If we can have all of those, then the Son'a have no excuse to be vacant.

    And yeah, someone else has said that the lock boxes seem to theme into running content, although when they started out, it wasn't so. Cardassian, Ferengi, Dominion & Temporal were all before their time. It wasn't really until we got into the Elachi Lock Box that they started to follow a trend. Then again, both the Xindi ones break that trend, so I still remain optimistic that the Son'a ships have a place in Cryptic's galactic fleet. Aside from the Dominion Battlecruiser, and the Cardassian Keldon, the Son'a (I think) are the only ships missing that people still want.
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  • cyberpunk1977cyberpunk1977 Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    I would prefer to see the Fen Domar species as mentioned in Voyager Endgame episode, They sounded pretty badass :)
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