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Should Starfleet Academy be made only for the Federation Player tutorial, while the main zone be Starfleet Command, or even Federation Headquarters in France instead?

I think so, since it would be better, even if we keep can the Academy in, just add a way to go between locations, either via transporter, shuttle, train, or a car even as the zone out trigger.

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  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    I rarely go back to the Academy, so as far as I'm concerned, it's only for the tutorial. Federation HQ in France seems to consist of maybe one or two rooms at the most and wouldn't be very interesting. What would we do there?
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  • captz1ppcaptz1pp Member Posts: 931 Arc User
    Sure, two rooms 30 years ago, but the game isn't limited by how small the soundstage is because there aren't any, CGI environments can be any size needed.
  • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    I regularly go down to the Academy. It's the quickest way to get to my bank, mail and exchange, that's where you can get some nice DOffs and it's a refreshing open place to be after being in space for a while or cooped up in the dim confines of a Starbase.

    AFAIK the Federation headquarters is just a building so while I wouldn't mind that added in, it'll probably feel just like a Starbase - sterile and office-like. I'd still prefer the open garden, blue skies and waterfront backdrop of the Academy.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,534 Arc User
    Also the Daily Lore questions. Dilithium and about 4,000 XP for a minute's worth of 'work'. Also the Academy let's you get to ESD Dock. Go direct from orbit, no need to play chicken with ESD with your ship. Then to ESD from that beam down.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • captz1ppcaptz1pp Member Posts: 931 Arc User
    Admittedly i think Federation HQ zone would only be used for a mission where The Player escorts the Lukari ambassador to Earth, where they speak with President Okeg, then head to the council room, maybe the same one we saw in STVI. Location and NPC's will differ based on which faction The Player is.
  • isthisscienceisthisscience Member Posts: 863 Arc User
    It's a little sad we haven't seen the Federation Council chambers in the game, or the President. Post 60 we should be getting our orders from the President or the Commander of Starfleet rather than Quinn or random Captains & Generals so it would make a good post-60 zone.

    Though does anyone get the feeling that as Okeg hasn't been mentioned by name once in the game so far that maybe they're holding out to retcon a big name in there at some point when they have a VO onboard? President Picard for instance.
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Um.... When exactly did "Federation Headquarters" move to France?

    Please, not President Picard. I could see him teaching at the academy but not as the UFP Prez.
  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,817 Arc User
    Um.... When exactly did "Federation Headquarters" move to France?
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    You REALLY had to ask, Mon Capitan? >:)

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    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,483 Arc User
    it's in France in the JJverse
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,817 Arc User
    Starfleet Command itself is in San Fransisco. But that's not to say the actual Federation HQ is in the same place.

    In an interplanetary alliance, having Starfleet Command in San Fran, and having Fed HQ in Paris is pretty inconsequential, they're both on earth and if you have warp drive already you can definitely at least get to the other side of the planet without a problem.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    The only consequence was that I had never heard of UFP HQ being in France. I woulde thought it would have been in New York, where the HQ of the UN was.
  • ilithynilithyn Member Posts: 900 Arc User
    it's in France in the JJverse

    Erm no. Even though Jar Jar & co may have effed up royally in many respects, even they put Starfleet HQ in San Francisco. So where does everyone get the France thing from?
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,817 Arc User
    ilithyn wrote: »
    it's in France in the JJverse

    Erm no. Even though Jar Jar & co may have effed up royally in many respects, even they put Starfleet HQ in San Francisco. So where does everyone get the France thing from?

    Starfleet HQ and the federation government HQ are not the same thing. it's like the white house and the pentagon.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • captz1ppcaptz1pp Member Posts: 931 Arc User
    It's a little sad we haven't seen the Federation Council chambers in the game, or the President. Post 60 we should be getting our orders from the President or the Commander of Starfleet rather than Quinn or random Captains & Generals so it would make a good post-60 zone.

    Though does anyone get the feeling that as Okeg hasn't been mentioned by name once in the game so far that maybe they're holding out to retcon a big name in there at some point when they have a VO onboard? President Picard for instance.

    I personally expected Okeg to be there next to J'mpok at the Chancellors hall instead of admiral Quinn at the end of "Surface Tension".
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,534 Arc User
    Someone misinterpreted San France-isco.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    ilithyn wrote: »
    it's in France in the JJverse

    Erm no. Even though Jar Jar & co may have effed up royally in many respects, even they put Starfleet HQ in San Francisco. So where does everyone get the France thing from?

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    I believe that's the Eiffel Tower in the background. If not, it could very well be the seat of government is in Las Vegas. :smiley:
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    ilithyn wrote: »
    it's in France in the JJverse

    Erm no. Even though Jar Jar & co may have effed up royally in many respects, even they put Starfleet HQ in San Francisco. So where does everyone get the France thing from?

    Oh that's so clever and original, Jar-Jar, that's so cute.​​
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    e30ernest wrote: »
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    I believe that's the Eiffel Tower in the background. If not, it could very well be the seat of government is in Las Vegas. :smiley:

    That is the Eiffel Tower, and in the foreground is one of the best actors Kurtwood Smith.​​
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  • mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    Kurtwood Smith......fine actor............oh,he was in robocop........thats right.........bet that makeup would've scared the TRIBBLE outta robocop had he showed up on set like that......​​
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,448 Arc User
    He had one roll in RoboCop, how many Star Trek roles has he had? Hmm???

    And it IS Kurtwood Smith, if he (or any of his characters, anyways) had anything to say about it, that ain't Paris, that's Vegas, bay-beeeee!
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,534 Arc User
    You sure that's not a still of the ending from the original Pierre Boulle novelization of Planet of the Apes?
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • neeko69neeko69 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Also the Daily Lore questions. Dilithium and about 4,000 XP for a minute's worth of 'work'. Also the Academy let's you get to ESD Dock. Go direct from orbit, no need to play chicken with ESD with your ship. Then to ESD from that beam down.


    Where do ya get the 4k XP?

  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    e30ernest wrote: »
    ilithyn wrote: »
    it's in France in the JJverse

    Erm no. Even though Jar Jar & co may have effed up royally in many respects, even they put Starfleet HQ in San Francisco. So where does everyone get the France thing from?

    tuchd1010.jpg

    I believe that's the Eiffel Tower in the background. If not, it could very well be the seat of government is in Las Vegas. :smiley:

    Still there when Jaresh-Inyo was the prezzie ;)

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  • e30erneste30ernest Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    guljarol wrote: »
    e30ernest wrote: »
    ilithyn wrote: »
    it's in France in the JJverse

    Erm no. Even though Jar Jar & co may have effed up royally in many respects, even they put Starfleet HQ in San Francisco. So where does everyone get the France thing from?

    tuchd1010.jpg

    I believe that's the Eiffel Tower in the background. If not, it could very well be the seat of government is in Las Vegas. :smiley:

    Still there when Jaresh-Inyo was the prezzie ;)

    lMDdj3M.jpg​​

    Yeah that was pretty much the point. He asked where the stuff about France came from and there we are. :smile:
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,534 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    There are two Missions there, each one gives out somewhere near to 1700 or 1800 combining both type awards.

    Just rechecked - each gives 903 Specialization Expertise and 1003 Expertise and 480 Dilitium.
    Post edited by ltminns on
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    Thats weird that they make a point of saying that SFCHQ is in San Francisco but never say one word about the seat of the UFP being Paris, France. I would have thought they would've chosen New York City (seat of the U.N) . Still, like another person said, it could be Las Vegas or even Kings Dominion (Six Flags) in Virginia but its probably Paris.

    Would've been hilarious if the backdrop had been the worlds largest can of beer though :) .
  • rangerryurangerryu Member Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    Thats weird that they make a point of saying that SFCHQ is in San Francisco but never say one word about the seat of the UFP being Paris, France. I would have thought they would've chosen New York City (seat of the U.N) . Still, like another person said, it could be Las Vegas or even Kings Dominion (Six Flags) in Virginia but its probably Paris.

    Would've been hilarious if the backdrop had been the worlds largest can of beer though :) .

    Presidental Offices
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    and you can see the Eiffel Tower whenever you've seen the Presidents office in deep space nine or star trek vi.Though another thought's occurred.......that can't be the orginial Eiffel Tower since Paris would of been nuked in World War 3 (probably)

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  • captz1ppcaptz1pp Member Posts: 931 Arc User
    If we can go back to the SF Command half of my thread, is it on the same plot as the Academy, or on the other end of the Golden Gate Bridge?
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