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Temporal cold war is next season ?????

xayssxayss Member Posts: 391 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
with this new cap my suspicous are complete the next season coming is all about tempora war, the hide enemys are the sphere builders like the plot say, all about the mirror invasion wa is justa distraction for the temporal war is coming , the ppl admiral leeta give tech from future i suspect are no mirror of his side is from our side they are using mirror ppl just like a tool. even the tholians are been using too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XflgRb2Dxwg
archer and daniel conversation make this more easy to understand.



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  • lopequillopequil Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    I certainly hope it isn't. Enterprise was bad enough without them picking the ropiest parts.
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  • xavieronealxavieroneal Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    I believe that will be the case. The seeds of the temporal war has been planted in the temporal ambassordor espisode and the temporal ships that can be purchased buy using lobi crystals. Now with season 11, this will further expand it.
  • farshorefarshore Member Posts: 353 Arc User
    I wouldn't be caught dead wearing a 26th century uniform.
  • zero2362zero2362 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    So now we are tying sto to the most poorly writen part of the most poorly written star trek series yaaaaaaaay.

    Suppose this means the next T6 ship is gonna be the enterprise J (shuder). Say what you will about cryptics desighns at least they arnt as bad as that thing
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    farshore wrote: »
    I wouldn't be caught dead wearing a 26th century uniform.
    Fine, 27th century it is. :p
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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    If they are gonna go with time travel warfare in the next season for the love of God, Q, or any other diety or all powerful being like Trendy please be careful with the story! Time travel can get sticky really quick!
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    Yeah, I can see it now. We go back in time and completely destroy the STO storyline, making way for:

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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Well the issue I saw in the midnight episode amd what lead up to.it is it started to get sticky which is why the ending of the iconian war is soo bad and felt rushed. The time travel aspect started punching holes in itself. They tried and for the most part got thru it with a few bumps and bruises for the effort but it still started to mess itself up. Time travel is very tricky to incorporate into a story mainly because it can start to contradict itself soo easily with plot line paradoxes.
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,769 Arc User
    You got to be a good writer if you want to cross time streams (Ghostbuster ref). :p
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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    Oh this is gonna be fun! Nobody does time travel like Star Trek!
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    The Sphere Builders are coming soon, we already saw one in "Butterfly". Just a matter of time before they reveal themselves. I suspect the Battle of Procyon V will happen a bit earlier than Daniels thought.

    (Interesting note: Procyon is the Andorian system. Are they going to lose their homeworld?)
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  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    Man those timesuits are ugly i tell ya fashion dident improve over time.
  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    @psycoticvulcan...

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  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    The Sphere Builders are coming soon, we already saw one in "Butterfly". Just a matter of time before they reveal themselves. I suspect the Battle of Procyon V will happen a bit earlier than Daniels thought.

    (Interesting note: Procyon is the Andorian system. Are they going to lose their homeworld?)

    The thing about futures is that they can be but one glimpse of what can happen. For all we know, the timeline which Daniels brought Archer no longer exists since they destroyed the expanse (which was stated to be 50,000 lightyears in all directions at that time).

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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    vegeta50024 wrote: »
    psycoticvulcan wrote: »
    The Sphere Builders are coming soon, we already saw one in "Butterfly". Just a matter of time before they reveal themselves. I suspect the Battle of Procyon V will happen a bit earlier than Daniels thought.

    (Interesting note: Procyon is the Andorian system. Are they going to lose their homeworld?)

    The thing about futures is that they can be but one glimpse of what can happen. For all we know, the timeline which Daniels brought Archer no longer exists since they destroyed the expanse (which was stated to be 50,000 lightyears in all directions at that time).

    Here's how I see things playing out in the TCW.

    The 1st timeline: History is "correct". Enterprise goes through its mission of exploration normally, the Xindi and the Suliban don't cause any trouble, and history plays out normally. But Future Guy/the Na'kuhl/the Tholians/others decide to mess things up in the future and start the TCU, creating...

    The 2nd timeline: Enterprise's maiden voyage and subsequent missions are disrupted as a result of Future Guy and the Suliban, and things play out as we see them in seasons 1-2. Season 3 (and to an extent, 4 as well) do not happen as we see them. The Sphere Builders decide to invade the galaxy and convince the Xindi to destroy Earth, creating...

    The 3rd timeline: Earth is attacked and Enterprise is sent into the Expanse. Season 3 plays out as seen up until "Twilight", in which Earth and humanity are destroyed. Daniels and the Federation cease to exist in the future thanks to the Sphere Builders' eventual invasion which destroys all life in the galaxy. Luckily, Archer manages to destroy those spatial parasites at the end of "Twilight" and create...

    The 4th timeline: Archer continues as captain of Enterprise and the mission continues. Daniels and the Federation are restored, but this time with history recording the Sphere Builders' invasion (and defeat) in the 26th century. Daniels tells Archer about the Battle of Procyon V as seen in "Azati Prime", creating...

    The 5th timeline: The rest of Season 3 plays out as it did. Earth is saved and the Sphere Builders defeated (for now). Except Vosk and the Na'kuhl aren't happy with the new state of affairs and decide to start a full-fledged Temporal War. Say hello to...

    The 6th timeline: The Na'kuhl wipe out the other factions in the future after a brief stay in the 20th century where they hid from the Temporal Agents and allied with the TRIBBLE. Daniels manages to send Enterprise back to stop them and the events of "Storm Front" play out, creating...

    The 7th timeline: While the damage from the first few timelines is still present, the rest of the franchise plays out chronologically. The 22nd century front of the TCW is over.

    That's my attempt at making sense of the TCW. It's not pretty, but it kinda works.
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  • titansupremetitansupreme Member Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Space TRIBBLE.
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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    ya the Temporal War would be fun to do and id love some more Time Powers like temporal backstep (maybe ill get my time eraser gun on my annorax?) but if Cryptic does go this route it will have to be use being recruited to preserve the timeline and we have to constantly timeskip around to correct issues that others ahve caused and do this multiple times. It could lead to a lot of Original content and plenty of stories and mission. BUT! They would have to be very very careful not to muck everything up and cause an infinite paradox loop (these are very easy to create)
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    If we do end up traveling through time again, I hope they find a way to tie it into ENT properly. Running into Enterprise or Columbia in the middle of the Earth/Romulan War would be awesome, especially if it gives them an excuse to add the NX interior and the Daedalus-class to the game.
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  • damienvryce2damienvryce2 Member Posts: 428 Arc User
    Daedalus class? Seriously? That ball and toilet paper tube pre-dates the NX. What's next? Cochrane's warp ship in the game? Oh...wait... ;)
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  • luddimusluddimus Member Posts: 133 Arc User
    Enterprise J rock n roll, zoom zoom zoom :)
  • grtiggygrtiggy Member Posts: 444 Arc User
    at the end of the final iconian mission i was like " omg i sooooo hope that is the freaking LAST time travel episode for a good long while...

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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    damienvryce2 wrote: »
    Daedalus class? Seriously? That ball and toilet paper tube pre-dates the NX. What's next? Cochrane's warp ship in the game? Oh...wait... ;)

    The Daedalus came after the NX-class. Enterprise was decomissioned in 2161, but the Daedalus lasted all the way up until 2196.

    Ideally there would be two versions available: the TOS-styled one like the U.S.S. Horizon, and the ENT-styled one like this.
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  • mordecai#1766 mordecai
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    Timey wimey time travel is such a crutch. If its done right can be goodbut too often is lame
  • bunansabunansa Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    it seems fine so far, I mean kal is where he is suppose to be, the tox uthat is where its suppose to be, and no enterprise j still...

    seems fine.

    I am still hoping this is in someway to get us the enterprise maco outfits that already exist in game as a reward at some point, and hoping to see another ground set come out of all this too, the romulan navy ground was ok, so...like we could totally get the maco ent era ground gear as a set, kit, weapon and armor or shield maybe, then costume as final unlock..

    and the interiors like people been asking for.
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  • xayssxayss Member Posts: 391 Arc User
    hey if you see ,in this new cap we start to mess with time line tholian no supose to steal the uthat the device in first place ,kal dano supose to hide the device from vorgon criminal,no the tholians. now is all a mess
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  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    bunansa wrote: »
    it seems fine so far, I mean kal is where he is suppose to be, the tox uthat is where its suppose to be, and no enterprise j still...

    seems fine.

    I am still hoping this is in someway to get us the enterprise maco outfits that already exist in game as a reward at some point, and hoping to see another ground set come out of all this too, the romulan navy ground was ok, so...like we could totally get the maco ent era ground gear as a set, kit, weapon and armor or shield maybe, then costume as final unlock..

    and the interiors like people been asking for.

    Yeah, a new ground set would be nice for a change.​​
  • tomoyosakagami1tomoyosakagami1 Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I would love a storyline where you encounter another version of yourself and you have to work with them to save the timeline, something like how it was with All Good Things.

    Though I don't remember why the Enterprise from each of the 3 timelines was destroyed. Vaguely remember the plot for All Good Things.
  • aesicaaesica Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    Hey guys, what if the last 2 episodes (Sunrise, Stormbound) were really just meant to be a sort of loose-end tie-up for a few holes in Trek lore rather than "the temporal cold war, coming to STO!"

    I hope that's the case, anyway. I'd like to have little 1 to 5 mission stories that resolve themselves, like the classic FE (the ones we got the cane, shard of possibilities, etc from) arcs, rather than giant ongoing universe-wide megaplots.
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  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    I don't mind it but I am worried it will be the end of STO? I mean what else will the story continue after time travel? The cold time war seems so final to me.
  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    From the intimation, I love that 29th Century Starfleet know ALL about the Temporal Cold War and quite possibly are still in effect during the 31st Century, patrolling and repairing things. I despised Daniels etc in "Enterprise", but I am loving Voyager's Relativity expansion in STO.
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