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NASA Defies the Laws of Physics.

hawkwing43hawkwing43 Member Posts: 1,701 Arc User
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Well looks like we are going to start live human exploration of our solar system soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsj1ufNZHo

http://www.outerplaces.com/science/item/10325-nasa-defies-the-laws-of-physics-says-their-impossible-em-drive-actually-works

http://www.forbes.com/sites/crossingborders/2013/09/18/nasa-will-pay-18000-to-watch-you-rest-in-bed-for-real/

http://www.popsci.com/this-december-you-can-apply-to-be-an-astronaut

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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    You mean I can put a fan in a sailboat and sail without any wind?
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    Didn't we hear about this half a year ago or something? I'm pretty sure that story has been proven false in the past.
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  • niteskolala#6767 niteskolala
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    ou can find a large discussion about this experiment on the nasa spaceflight forum.
    forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=38577.0
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,505 Arc User
    Still unvetted posts on an internet forum. I'm not betting on this until there's a peer-reviewed paper; people can claim just about anything on the internet, and usually do.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    I thought I remembered, speaking of peer review, that the experiment was found to have severe flaws in its setup and could not be replicated. And then there was that guy sophlogiston or whatever his name was (I forget) claiming cold fusion had been invented and for similar reasons that one was false too.

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    Still unvetted posts on an internet forum. I'm not betting on this until there's a peer-reviewed paper; people can claim just about anything on the internet, and usually do.
    You exaggerate.

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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Nobody has really completely debunked this drive yet.
    They've given scientific reason why it SHOULDN'T work, but just about every independent team that has actually built one, has still come up with results that point toward it actually does.
    BTW: NASA didn't do this first, another team in Germany did.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    jonsills wrote: »
    Still unvetted posts on an internet forum. I'm not betting on this until there's a peer-reviewed paper; people can claim just about anything on the internet, and usually do.

    You don't need peer review when there's a video. People can post a video on Facebook, they can't do that with peer-review can you?​​
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    Still unvetted posts on an internet forum. I'm not betting on this until there's a peer-reviewed paper; people can claim just about anything on the internet, and usually do.

    You don't need peer review when there's a video. People can post a video on Facebook, they can't do that with peer-review can you?​​

    People can doctor a video or set up illusions (or even inadvertently create one). Even YouTubers with hardly a budget...see CorridorDigital and brusspup on YouTube for what a less-than-Hollywood budget can do these days. Without replicating the experiment many times by many teams in a variety of conditions, the authenticity cannot be scientifically vouched for in any credible manner.

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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,505 Arc User
    Videos on YouTube? I commend "Marble Hornets" and "EverymanHYBRID" to your attention. (Or, for the Reader's Digest condensed version, go to Night Mind's channel, where he's done multipart synopses of the series, including decoding the encrypted bits, which last I appreciated because I suck at decryption.) If anything, that makes me more skeptical.

    And this last experiment series, as posted in that forum, notes that there are still a couple of major loopholes - for instance, internal heating has still not been ruled out and in fact fits the profile of "energy" production pretty well. (No, I'm not dismissing this because "it's impossible", I'm dismissing this because it's still unverified. William of Ockham pretty well nailed it, back in the day...)
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    gulberat wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    Still unvetted posts on an internet forum. I'm not betting on this until there's a peer-reviewed paper; people can claim just about anything on the internet, and usually do.

    You don't need peer review when there's a video. People can post a video on Facebook, they can't do that with peer-review can you?

    People can doctor a video or set up illusions (or even inadvertently create one). Even YouTubers with hardly a budget...see CorridorDigital and brusspup on YouTube for what a less-than-Hollywood budget can do these days. Without replicating the experiment many times by many teams in a variety of conditions, the authenticity cannot be scientifically vouched for in any credible manner.

    *Sarcasm*.​​
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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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