Doff missions that reward R&D mats are gone

farshore · October 2015

They're mostly all gone. Even the incredibly good doffing assignments in the Dsyon sphere are gone. Actually the Dyson Sphere pretty much has no assignments whatsoever in it. Even the trade ones.

bobbydazlers · October 2015

cant say if this is a temporary glitch or permanent, still I have tons of R&D mats that I will probably never use anyway so meh.

nikephorus · October 2015

Players were acquiring r&d materials to fast a rate, clearly an exploit. It's been remedied.

davefenestrator · October 2015

I noticed this too, all doff mat missions seem to have disappeared.

I guess the thinking is that they give us mats in the Admiralty missions and allowing both would be too much. An announcement saying so would have been nice.

farshore · October 2015

nikephorus wrote: »

Players were acquiring r&d materials to fast a rate, clearly an exploit. It's been remedied.

Well, the mat market has crashed. I don't know if it's because of these missions or something else, but even Rhubidium is selling for 6 each. The others are far worse.

seaofsorrows · October 2015

davefenestrator wrote: »

I noticed this too, all doff mat missions seem to have disappeared.

I guess the thinking is that they give us mats in the Admiralty missions and allowing both would be too much. An announcement saying so would have been nice.

I'm hoping that's not why, especially since Admiralty is really only useful to people who spend a lot of money on ships.

The Admiralty system is not a valid method for most players to acquire RnD Mats. They need to restore these missions ASAP. If they don't want both systems rewarding, then they should award something else from Admiralty.

farshore · October 2015

seaofsorrows wrote: »

davefenestrator wrote: »

I noticed this too, all doff mat missions seem to have disappeared.

I guess the thinking is that they give us mats in the Admiralty missions and allowing both would be too much. An announcement saying so would have been nice.

I'm hoping that's not why, especially since Admiralty is really only useful to people who spend a lot of money on ships.

The Admiralty system is not a valid method for most players to acquire RnD Mats. They need to restore these missions ASAP. If they don't want both systems rewarding, then they should award something else from Admiralty.

So far as I've noticed, the Admiralty System is pretty bad at giving mats. Some of the Bonus Events give Purple mats, but I haven't really noticed any missions that are a good source for common and uncommon.

seaofsorrows · October 2015

farshore wrote: »

seaofsorrows wrote: »

davefenestrator wrote: »

I noticed this too, all doff mat missions seem to have disappeared.

I guess the thinking is that they give us mats in the Admiralty missions and allowing both would be too much. An announcement saying so would have been nice.

I'm hoping that's not why, especially since Admiralty is really only useful to people who spend a lot of money on ships.

The Admiralty system is not a valid method for most players to acquire RnD Mats. They need to restore these missions ASAP. If they don't want both systems rewarding, then they should award something else from Admiralty.

So far as I've noticed, the Admiralty System is pretty bad at giving mats. Some of the Bonus Events give Purple mats, but I haven't really noticed any missions that are a good source for common and uncommon.

I agree.

There are a number of missions that are missing, not just RnD assignments. I don't think this is working as intended.

All we can do is hope they fix it soon.

taylor1701d · October 2015

Yep I noticed this also.

Cryptic: "NO DOFFING FOR YOU ! YOU WILL USE THE ADMIRALTY SYSTEM, AND YOU WILL LOVE IT !"

That's how I felt going through my doffing alts last night.
So much for my material farming.

Used to be able to get 10 - 15 doff assignments (Trade+Mats) by just transferring from sector to system space. Then top of with assignments found on my ship bridge.

Last night I was lucky to get 5-8 assignments (from sector and system) before transferring to my ship bridge.

So these will be missed dearly if they do not intend to bring them back.
Which is probably the case, they wont return.

I think it's WAI.
Would it have killed them to leave the doffing system as it was ? I mean, its not like it was super exploitable.
It took weeks to gather a fair amount of materials (blue quality) and that was with 3 doffing alts which ran once a day 20 missions. about 10 of which would be materials assignments.

Meh, not super impressed with this.

monkeybone13 · October 2015

It's a bug and has been confirmed by a bug hunter. What's happening is a ton of assignments throughout the entire game are missing under 'Current Map'. http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/comment/12760343/#Comment_12760343

allocater · October 2015

I hope this was not caused by an attempt to fix the borders: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1205802/sector-space-doff-mission-mystery-solved-alpha-quadrant

kamiyama317 · October 2015

I was wondering why all the ongoing missions I had stacked up had disappeared when I logged in yesterday. Let's hope it's a bug and not intended.

jormunrek · October 2015

Hopefully Trendy will pop by and give a head's up on if this is WAI (and a terrible idea) or just a bug and they'll fix it (hopefully) PDQ.

allocater · October 2015

Confirmed by dev comment:

We'll look into this, as soon as a few more pressing performance matters get settled. It definitely wasn't an intentional change.

Assignment Availability had to be rebuilt for Admiralty, and I suspect this is an unintentional fallout of that process.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/3qhxcs/missing_scan_doff_missions/cwg5on8

seaofsorrows · October 2015

There is a thread here where Bort has asked for people to post any other assignments that they find are missing.

Confirmed it was not intentional and is being looked into.

centaurianalpha · October 2015

My 1st Admiralty System (AS) research mission paid off in 2 units of each of the VR (purple) R&D materials, so I'm not too worried about how to get them. Most Rares (blue) were obtained from PvE drops anyway, but I'm still getting some from the normal DOff science missions...

spudvicious · October 2015

have you checked with your department heads screen? I've noticed that talking to them brings up a lot of assignments that do not show up in the personal and current map tabs. I'm also pretty sure that the doff missions for r&d mats are still there with the science and (I think) operations heads.

lucho80 · October 2015

spudvicious wrote: »

have you checked with your department heads screen? I've noticed that talking to them brings up a lot of assignments that do not show up in the personal and current map tabs. I'm also pretty sure that the doff missions for r&d mats are still there with the science and (I think) operations heads.

Nope. Go to the Dyson Sphere and you'll see how bad the problem gets.

sheldonlcooper · October 2015

I believe this is a bug and not intentional. Admiralty gives maybe around 20 times less than you can get by casual doffing. The blue and purple materials are however way more available now with the research lab and admiralty, along with a reduced demand. Green and white have gone up as they are desired for the research lab missions. However the main cause of the prices going down is the 999 trolls.

monkeybone13 · October 2015

sheldonlcooper wrote: »

I believe this is a bug and not intentional. Admiralty gives maybe around 20 times less than you can get by casual doffing. The blue and purple materials are however way more available now with the research lab and admiralty, along with a reduced demand. Green and white have gone up as they are desired for the research lab missions. However the main cause of the prices going down is the 999 trolls.

I'll leave this here since obviously you didn't read @seaofsorrows post above

borticuscryptic wrote: »

I can confirm that some Doff Assignments appear to be missing. I can also confirm that this was NOT an intentional change, and will be investigated.

Until we can nail this down, getting additional information on which specific Assignments appear to be missing may be helpful. So far, groups that are being reported as universally absent are:

- "Scan" and "Analyze" assignments which yield R&D Materials
- "Haggle" assignments for DS9 commodities

Please post here if you can confirm the definite absence of others (and not just low odds situations).

huskerbk81 · October 2015

I really hope it's a bug i get most my mats from doffs and if it's not fixed crafting and upgrading will be a nightmare very soon!!!

monkeybone13 · October 2015

huskerbk81 wrote: »

I really hope it's a bug i get most my mats from doffs and if it's not fixed crafting and upgrading will be a nightmare very soon!!!

Did you not read my post right before yours? Reading comprehension people! Geez!

sheldonlcooper · October 2015

That's odd. I did read and I said I believe it's a bug. Other types of missions from current map especially diplomacy are also missing.

monkeybone13 · October 2015

sheldonlcooper wrote: »

That's odd. I did read and I said I believe it's a bug. Other types of missions from current map especially diplomacy are also missing.

I quoted a dev in my post above who verified it is in fact a bug and you're still acting as though you're not sure about it. Here is the dev's post in the bug report thread. http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/comment/12761692#Comment_12761692

Please post in that thread any issues with missing doff assignments. If you got any ideas on what is going on or what might be happening Borticus could use all the info he can get.

excellentawesome · October 2015

Some people do not like admitting previous exploits they enjoyed were actually bugs, and some other people don't actually like admitting cryptic has put bugs into the game in the first place. And some other people simply think "cryptic"ly

Doff missions that reward R&D mats are gone

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