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  • hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    sirmayday wrote: »
    I'd forgotten that. That definitively puts the opening conflict with the Heralds in the latter half of 2410 (more or less; it still could've been in June)

    Doubtful, according to the blog before Sphere of Influence, it took a few months to get the Iconian gateway on New Romulus up and running, and then there is the time it took fighting the Voth in the Solanae Sphere, how long it took to set up the peace conference that ended the Klingon War and then deal with the Undine, and the time it took for Delta Rising.

    So its probably been several months since June of 2410 before the war starts.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    hartzilla wrote: »
    sirmayday wrote: »
    I'd forgotten that. That definitively puts the opening conflict with the Heralds in the latter half of 2410 (more or less; it still could've been in June)

    Doubtful, according to the blog before Sphere of Influence, it took a few months to get the Iconian gateway on New Romulus up and running, and then there is the time it took fighting the Voth in the Solanae Sphere, how long it took to set up the peace conference that ended the Klingon War and then deal with the Undine, and the time it took for Delta Rising.

    So its probably been several months since June of 2410 before the war starts.

    actually, according to tales of the war #1, the invasion started april 20th, since the blog takes place 2 days after the start of the invasion and it gives a stardate of 87305.1, which converts to april 22, 2410 (at least on the calculator i used; i haven't tested others)​​
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  • bioixibioixi Member Posts: 764 Arc User


    We are still unsure about how time is measured in star trek, for example in DS9 they keep saying a day takes 26 hours and 1 year = 1000 stardates, but there is no mention that a year is still considered 365 days with 24 hours per day.

    It is possible that 1 day=26 hours and 1 year =1000 days
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    Sweet, there's still time to get to Narnia!

    in all seriousness Generations is my second favorite to First Contact.
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  • hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    hartzilla wrote: »
    sirmayday wrote: »
    I'd forgotten that. That definitively puts the opening conflict with the Heralds in the latter half of 2410 (more or less; it still could've been in June)

    Doubtful, according to the blog before Sphere of Influence, it took a few months to get the Iconian gateway on New Romulus up and running, and then there is the time it took fighting the Voth in the Solanae Sphere, how long it took to set up the peace conference that ended the Klingon War and then deal with the Undine, and the time it took for Delta Rising.

    So its probably been several months since June of 2410 before the war starts.

    actually, according to tales of the war #1, the invasion started april 20th, since the blog takes place 2 days after the start of the invasion and it gives a stardate of 87305.1, which converts to april 22, 2410 (at least on the calculator i used; i haven't tested others)​​

    And yet according to the date shown in the Delta recruit prologue the Breen Arc took place in June of 2410.

    Plus trying to convert stardates into actual dates is an exercise in futility as they were never designed with the intention of making sense.
    bioixi wrote: »
    We are still unsure about how time is measured in star trek, for example in DS9 they keep saying a day takes 26 hours

    Thats because Bajor has 26 hour days.
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  • koraheaglecrykoraheaglecry Member Posts: 250 Arc User
    protogoth wrote: »
    mrspidey2 wrote: »
    protogoth wrote: »
    Delta Recruits start in "June 2410," as their future selves
    Then we have to be in 2411 by now, since we know from the war blogs that the Iconian War alone lasted about 6 months.

    I didn't notice the Nexus Ribbon passing through our space yet, so we can't be in 2411 yet. An event of that magnitude would not go unnoticed.

    I dont think anyones going to give a **** about a ribbon in space when theyre facing annihilation. I understand that it would be nice to see this in game. But its not essential.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    well, maybe season 11 will be 2411... makes sense :D After all, season 10 was 2410

    Except that Season 9 started in 2410 with Surface Tension.

    I'd rather it stay 2410 for awhile. But I'll note that you could just about get by with treating season patches as fall/spring/winter/fall.

    In which case Season 9 was Q1 2410. Season 10 was Q2. Season 11 will be Q3. Season 12 will be Q4. We'll probably have a non-season patch around here. Then Season 13 will probably begin 2411 in late 2016 or the first half of 2417.
  • mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    ahhhh, to have it all be one of Q's tricks and we wake up on graduation day 2409 and none of the war TRIBBLE ever happened................no no, no applause.....just throw money..........
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    Hmm, a season would be a good idea... each season represents an actual season or rather 3 months.
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    protogoth wrote: »
    binebane wrote: »
    since now we have peace with iconians and that is major thing... will he go to year 2411 with season 11?

    We haven't dealt with the Nexus Ribbon yet. It's scheduled to return to our neck of the woods in 2410 (tbh, I really expected it to be the Deus ex machina end of the Iconian War, since it's sort of temporal and the Iconians can't deal with time travel).

    You expect too much, I think.
    I'm pretty sure that doff mission is all we'll get for that.
  • koraheaglecrykoraheaglecry Member Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Ive always been of the impression that many of the events of STO are either happening simultaniously or out of order. So much takes place in the course of 18 months that youd think almost half a decade went by.......The only explanation for it is that either we've found a way to actually be every where at once (Warp 10?) or because we are the hero and players want to be able to take part in everything. That we're given the opportunity to take part in things that according to the timeline. We couldnt possibly taken part in.

    If you were to take the game at face value. Absolutely nothing happens in that universe unless we're there to take part in it. Which is absurd, but also how MMOs work.
  • xaracrimsonxaracrimson Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    Don't be surprised if Season 11's New Dawn is actually a classic 4-year exploration mission, which often seems to be the length of exploration missions with the Federation. If that goes here, we'll enter a chain of missions (through seasons) straight into 2414 over the next year(s).
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Don't be surprised if Season 11's New Dawn is actually a classic 4-year exploration mission, which often seems to be the length of exploration missions with the Federation. If that goes here, we'll enter a chain of missions (through seasons) straight into 2414 over the next year(s).
    Aren't exploration missions 5 year missions?

    http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Five-year_mission
    "Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before."

    Not only that, but 2414 would still be behind the in-game stardate -- and if the post I tried to post last night is ever "approved" (for what reason it should need to be approved, I have no idea, but I'm annoyed by this, since I have never been moderated in these fora and have given no reason for my posts to require approval, and have continued posting freely ever since, but only that one post seems to need "approval," ...), then explanations of stardates will be available to readers of this thread.

    Edit: See that? Look! I even posted another reply to this thread successfully without any need for "approval." *makes look of disgust*
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    protogoth wrote: »
    Not only that, but 2414 would still be behind the in-game stardate
    This has already been covered. As per the words of people who worked on ToS, stardates change depending on what part of space you are in, which is why some episodes had stardates that would place them before other episodes, even though they came after those episodes.

    Stardates cannot be used to accuracy measure the change of time in-game, because seven ships, at different points in the Alpha/Beta quad, would each have a different stardate, even if they took a stardate reading at the same time.

    Yeah, like I said, if the post I tried to make here last night (which was in part a reply to bioixi) ever shows up, you'll have explanations of stardates, with the math to back those explanations up. I'm guessing that the inclusion of links might have had something to do with the need for "approval" (although including links has never hindered my posting before), so I'm not going to post the links again in this post. Hmm, maybe after the post is made and I edit ... let's see.

    Edit: The post I tried to make last night:
    hartzilla wrote: »
    sirmayday wrote: »
    I'd forgotten that. That definitively puts the opening conflict with the Heralds in the latter half of 2410 (more or less; it still could've been in June)

    Doubtful, according to the blog before Sphere of Influence, it took a few months to get the Iconian gateway on New Romulus up and running, and then there is the time it took fighting the Voth in the Solanae Sphere, how long it took to set up the peace conference that ended the Klingon War and then deal with the Undine, and the time it took for Delta Rising.

    So its probably been several months since June of 2410 before the war starts.

    actually, according to tales of the war #1, the invasion started april 20th, since the blog takes place 2 days after the start of the invasion and it gives a stardate of 87305.1, which converts to april 22, 2410 (at least on the calculator i used; i haven't tested others)​​

    April 22, 2410, Time: 08:40:33
    -- Source
    bioixi wrote: »

    We are still unsure about how time is measured in star trek, for example in DS9 they keep saying a day takes 26 hours and 1 year = 1000 stardates, but there is no mention that a year is still considered 365 days with 24 hours per day.

    It is possible that 1 day=26 hours and 1 year =1000 days

    You might want to check this out:
    http://trekguide.com/Stardates.htm

    Edit 2: *gasp* It went through! Does anyone see anything in that which ought to require "approval"? I don't.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    protogoth wrote: »
    Edit 2: *gasp* It went through! Does anyone see anything in that which ought to require "approval"? I don't.

    Lack of capitalisation :p.​​
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    protogoth wrote: »
    that's the exact same converter i used when i made my post last night, before i went and tested 4 others to see what results i got; 2 gave the exact same earth date and time as the hillschmidt one and the other 2 gave 2 different dates, neither of them set in 2410, though they were at least in the early 2400s​​
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    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"


    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
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    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    protogoth wrote: »
    Edit 2: *gasp* It went through! Does anyone see anything in that which ought to require "approval"? I don't.

    Lack of capitalisation :p.​​

    Not in my post. In some of the quoted bits, yes, but I was trained as an academic; I don't skimp on punctuation, capitalization, spelling, grammar, or the like.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    protogoth wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    protogoth wrote: »
    Edit 2: *gasp* It went through! Does anyone see anything in that which ought to require "approval"? I don't.

    Lack of capitalisation :p.

    Not in my post. In some of the quoted bits, yes, but I was trained as an academic; I don't skimp on punctuation, capitalization, spelling, grammar, or the like.

    You're correct, sorry. I still can't read the new nested quotes properly.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • sevenofnine13141sevenofnine13141 Member Posts: 4,273 Arc User
    According to the Calculator used on TrekGuide, Stardate 84944 is 2411. So if you are past that, you are in 2411. Simple.
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