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Looks to be another fine job at reskinning. I am delighted the Devs are doing things like this. This is a trend which I hope spills over into fixing some of the things which have been broken for years in this game.
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While I do appreciate this model being updated with tighter graphics, I still do think that the Romulans and Klingons should also get a ship when the Federation gets one.
Also, at least to me, it doesn't matter if said ships were 'multi vector' or not. I actually think that other faction ships don't have to be related to the Fed ship at all. For example, just because you have a new contest to allow us to pick the design of a new Fed carrier, a new ship for the Klingons or Romulans could just be ah, Science Ship. But that's just my opinion.
So I'm wondering. Any nice adjustment to the other skins for this ship? Also, will they all still look like a prometheus regardless of skin when they're separating?
Take for example the saucer section. The Excelsior's Saucer model is the same one for the Retrofit except for the extra impulse engines. That's sloppy and pathetic work. Especially considering the vast amount of resources that are available online which point out the distinct differences between the two.
To be fair, and I'm not trying to nitpick here, the additions on the Excelsior post-refit (Ent-B, Lakota) were not too noticeable outside of the change to the warp nacelles and impulse engines..to call it "sloppy and pathetic" is a tad unfair considering here haven't been a great deal of posts (that I've noticed) demanding/suggesting that the Excelsior model gets and update.
Back on topic, the Prometheus reskin looks a treat and I look forward to flying one again.
i'm just surprised they aren't going with a more command or Intel design on the new ship .. and i agree the Excelsior class should get the next T6 overhaul .. it has been the work horse of the federation for decades
Sig updated. Still waiting to cross off the Sovereign, Defiant, Nova, Rhode Island, Steamrunner, and Sabre (oh and add the Norway and Yeager dammit).
Lovely job on it, I look forward to making it mine.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
One thing that could be nice for all those "remodel" posts would be to show the old version for comparison, because if you've never used any of those ships, you won't notice the details.
The new Prometheus model looks tremendous, great job!
Can I add my name to the list of folks who'd love to see an Excelsior remodel too though? I bought the Resolute, and the T5 Retrofit a few years back when I first hit level 40, and before that even ground energy credits as my first toon levelled up to buy the original T3 version before it went C-Store, so I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel slightly snubbed that the ship model was passed over compared to the Galaxy, Akira and now the Prometheus (and I'm sure the Defiant will get a remodel too when the T6 version arrives).
One of my biggest issues with the current Excelsior model is the windows, which don't really match the models from the show, but as folks above have pointed out there are plenty of inaccuracies - why has it been passed over? Whatever detractors think of the Excelsior being old (and I'm a ship geek myself so I take the point), it's still appearing in STO episodes (the USS Dallas features prominently in the space battle in the new featured episode for example).
What do you say Trendy, any chance we might see the old girl get a sparkling new model? Either way thanks for your and the ship design team's work on all the new designs. You guys have done a splendid job.
One thing that could be nice for all those "remodel" posts would be to show the old version for comparison, because if you've never used any of those ships, you won't notice the details.
that is a pretty smart idea, and have one of those 360degree interactive pictures so you can see the difference at any angle. great job in the pics, gonna get the mirror one when the patch it finished to see the details, might just get the fleet version just because i love the ship (no chance of me buying the C-Store one, unless i do the dilithum exchange)
I keep seeing these "remodels" and honestly, I'm not really seeing the difference. Short of seeing a before and after in the exact same position (which would have been nice), it really isn't noticable to me.
I keep seeing these "remodels" and honestly, I'm not really seeing the difference. Short of seeing a before and after in the exact same position (which would have been nice), it really isn't noticable to me.
I remember previous remodels, and yeah, they did show before and after. It's probably around somewhere for the Prometheus, just needs to be posted official-like, and all that.
Sig updated. Still waiting to cross off the Sovereign, Defiant, Nova, Rhode Island, Steamrunner, and Sabre (oh and add the Norway and Yeager dammit).
Lovely job on it, I look forward to making it mine.
Heh - I recall how fantastic it felt, 'back in the day', to read the news that the Nova/Rhode Island would receive the T5 Fleet version treatment. How I long for the day when a dev blog might appear that announces a T6 Nova/Rhode Island.
I'm not hopeful though.
I hope the next Sci ship is a Nova refit, sorry to the Nebula and Vesta but I love the look of the Nova.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Take for example the saucer section. The Excelsior's Saucer model is the same one for the Retrofit except for the extra impulse engines. That's sloppy and pathetic work. Especially considering the vast amount of resources that are available online which point out the distinct differences between the two.
I am really curious as to why Cryptic skipped the Excelsior for remodeling.
you realize that is what the producers did to the model, mainly because they did not want to blow a big hole in the excelsior model in Generations. and also, the small changes they made, were done between STVH and STU, along with the registry number going from NX-2000 to NCC-2000, so don't call Cryptic/PWE sloppy and pathetic.
the Prometheus (re)model comes free to use for anyone having the T6 Hestia
while the Akira line costumes Thunderchild and Armitage are unlocked on purchase... why?
We should have them for free too now. Else there is no fair treatment towards those who buy the Alita and the Hestia.
I still dream from time to time about using the Gateway to doff off-game in spare minutes as we were told
the Prometheus (re)model comes free to use for anyone having the T6 Hestia
while the Akira line costumes Thunderchild and Armitage are unlocked on purchase... why?
We should have them for free too now. Else there is no fair treatment towards those who buy the Alita and the Hestia.
Because the Thunderchild and Armitage are refit skins you have to buy, the same goes for the Hephaestus hull for the Prometheus.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
you realize that is what the producers did to the model, mainly because they did not want to blow a big hole in the excelsior model in Generations. and also, the small changes they made, were done between STVH and STU, along with the registry number going from NX-2000 to NCC-2000, so don't call Cryptic/PWE sloppy and pathetic.
You have me at a loss. Star Trek Generations was a movie produced in 1994. Cryptic was established sometime in 2000. I believe you may have misread my posts.
I'm talking about the 3D modelers who made the Excelsior model for STO. All they did was use the Retrofit saucer and cut out the two extra impulse engines. I used the saucer as an example because it has the easiest to compare and explain between the actual studio model and cryptics model.
Looks good, but the separated saucer section pivot point is much too far back making the ship look like it is turning as though it were still attached. If it is possible, please move it forward.
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Also, at least to me, it doesn't matter if said ships were 'multi vector' or not. I actually think that other faction ships don't have to be related to the Fed ship at all. For example, just because you have a new contest to allow us to pick the design of a new Fed carrier, a new ship for the Klingons or Romulans could just be ah, Science Ship. But that's just my opinion.
Outside of that, nice remodel;. ^_^
To be fair, and I'm not trying to nitpick here, the additions on the Excelsior post-refit (Ent-B, Lakota) were not too noticeable outside of the change to the warp nacelles and impulse engines..to call it "sloppy and pathetic" is a tad unfair considering here haven't been a great deal of posts (that I've noticed) demanding/suggesting that the Excelsior model gets and update.
Back on topic, the Prometheus reskin looks a treat and I look forward to flying one again.
Lovely job on it, I look forward to making it mine.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Can I add my name to the list of folks who'd love to see an Excelsior remodel too though? I bought the Resolute, and the T5 Retrofit a few years back when I first hit level 40, and before that even ground energy credits as my first toon levelled up to buy the original T3 version before it went C-Store, so I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel slightly snubbed that the ship model was passed over compared to the Galaxy, Akira and now the Prometheus (and I'm sure the Defiant will get a remodel too when the T6 version arrives).
One of my biggest issues with the current Excelsior model is the windows, which don't really match the models from the show, but as folks above have pointed out there are plenty of inaccuracies - why has it been passed over? Whatever detractors think of the Excelsior being old (and I'm a ship geek myself so I take the point), it's still appearing in STO episodes (the USS Dallas features prominently in the space battle in the new featured episode for example).
What do you say Trendy, any chance we might see the old girl get a sparkling new model? Either way thanks for your and the ship design team's work on all the new designs. You guys have done a splendid job.
that is a pretty smart idea, and have one of those 360degree interactive pictures so you can see the difference at any angle. great job in the pics, gonna get the mirror one when the patch it finished to see the details, might just get the fleet version just because i love the ship (no chance of me buying the C-Store one, unless i do the dilithum exchange)
I remember previous remodels, and yeah, they did show before and after. It's probably around somewhere for the Prometheus, just needs to be posted official-like, and all that.
I hope the next Sci ship is a Nova refit, sorry to the Nebula and Vesta but I love the look of the Nova.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Again I ask:
the Prometheus (re)model comes free to use for anyone having the T6 Hestia
while the Akira line costumes Thunderchild and Armitage are unlocked on purchase... why?
We should have them for free too now. Else there is no fair treatment towards those who buy the Alita and the Hestia.
Because the Thunderchild and Armitage are refit skins you have to buy, the same goes for the Hephaestus hull for the Prometheus.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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You have me at a loss. Star Trek Generations was a movie produced in 1994. Cryptic was established sometime in 2000. I believe you may have misread my posts.
I'm talking about the 3D modelers who made the Excelsior model for STO. All they did was use the Retrofit saucer and cut out the two extra impulse engines. I used the saucer as an example because it has the easiest to compare and explain between the actual studio model and cryptics model.