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Cardassian Revamp Episode 3
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Upon defeating Gul Kardek, we learned of a secret rendezvous between the leaders of the True Way and what appears to be a cell of Alpha quadrant Jem’Hadar.
We can ill afford an alliance between these two groups.
~LaughingTrendy
We can ill afford an alliance between these two groups.
~LaughingTrendy
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1: Can't wait to play these new missions.
2: Goodbye Arawath. My alts will miss you.
Late october.
Oh No! They're running a winery! They're going to corner the market on Ktarian Merlot!
And before someone else goes to check, no it's not available on Tribble yet.
Maybe this is why enemies in the Cardassian Struggle would sometimes drop bottles of Chateau Picard when I defeated them? Obviously the real person giving the Alpha's orders is Picard then!
dominion arc is still later, so she has yet to be introduced
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Then again I can see this making a certain crowd have a meltdown, so I appreciate it for that.
Though, overall, the old cardie arc was atrocious and had very little to do with cardies. Glad to see it getting an overhaul.
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Good news, the Revamp has nothing to do with the Cardassians either!
And given the brewery picture, wonder if we're back to killing Jem'Hadar babies.
Isn't it the same wormhole in both universes?
Also, that seems to treat the Mirror Universe as "the opposite universe", which is not generally how the Mirror Universe is approached (outside of "The Emperor's New Cloak", which doesn't fit very well with anything else).
I'm not a fan of "The Borg are benevolent, the Ferengi are generous, Vulcans hate logic, the Voth are mammals!"-type take on the Mirror Universe. There are causes and effects. The Mirror Universe is largely inverted because of a single, specific, unknown incident in earth's past.
Now, maybe you arrive at some opposite destinations. Maybe the Ferengi's market economy collapses and they become communists. Fine. But let that be an irony that is a result of the Terran Empire's different actions, not an example of things always being backwards.
I have not played the new episodes but from the descriptions, my GUESS is that the Bajorans are less religious but have the same religion with the same teachings and that they are occupied by the Cardassians and DON'T want them to go... But only because the alternative will mean the Terrans conquering them without Cardassian protection.
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The original premise of the mirror universe is that it has a moral inversion specifically occurring with Earth. That's the "mirror" part, which just happens to cause other "opposites" to occur. The Bajorans were actually enslaved by the Terran Empire, so when Spock started to disarm the empire the Cardassians and Klingons made an alliance to over throw it. The Bajorans gladly joined them, so, ironically, in the mirror universe the Bajorans and Cardassians like each other.
Opposite universe, yet more or less the same technology (except with some creations being cruel like the agony beam or the tantalus field that ironically, according to STO, got invented several centuries later except not permanent and much less cruel), the same characters, except usually different in personalities.
Just the "same tech" bit doesn't make sense, especially with "In a Mirror Darkly" of ENT where the ISS Enterprise crew (what's left of it after several backstabbings) gains an unstoppable 24th century ship ; yet, 2 centuries later, the technology and even the design level isn't different than the prime!universe one. You'd expect a cruel empire to have designed ships to instill fear in those who see them with many weapons (that's why Warship Voyager was awesome), but nope, the same smooth "pizza cutter" designs than the UFP ones.
As for the Mirror!Prophets? According to the STO revamp, they're
So, you have to remember that during the Enterprise time frame of the Mirror Universe, the Terran Empire was not on the cutting edge of technology (just like ours at the time) and they were fighting multiple rebellions from other species. Getting a hold of future technology allowed them to switch from being an Empire struggling to hold onto what they had, into the expansionist empire you see in TOS. What probably happened is they tore the Defiant apart, reverse engineered all of the weapons and shield, and then development probably stagnated for a good while. They were technically ahead of us in technology but by Kirk's time frame we are the ones that caught up to them.
So, a better way to think about it. Let's say you time travel back into sometime B.C. when the most technologically advanced weapon was a bronze sword, but you brought back with you an automatic assault rifle. You will essentially be unbeatable with this weapon. If you then started building your own empire, you would focus on making more of these guns to give your army. Once they were produced, you probably would not give much thought to trying to make a better gun, since everyone else is still using swords. Then when things pass on to your children, they would have less reason to invest in making a better gun (at least until someone else makes a gun) because the status quo will be great for them.
What I really have a problem with is, when they brought mirror Ezri Dax into DS9. There's no reason other than they were being lazy with effort and cheap in the budget. Also, just because we had an Iconian war, does not mean that the mirror universe had to have one as well. Yeah, sure, the way each war ended is fitting for their respective universes, but the Iconians that survivied in our universe did so because we went back in time to save them. If you accept the premise that the only difference in the two universes is the Federation vs Terran Empire morality shift in humans, then there was no one to go back in time and save the Iconians and they should all be dead... which would also explain why *so* many things are different between the two universes, since the Iconians would not be there to influence anything.
JJTrek. Same situation: a ship from another reality, 2 century more advanced than the current technology level, arrives in a time period where you have FTL travel means, teleporting devices and energy weapons. Except they managed to gather intel from the ship that can curbstomp them and they managed to create something slightly similar to the prime!universe, except better equipped, better and different-looking, etc...
Your bronze sword and automatic rifle analogy doesn't make sense because there is no similar tech to the rifle yet at this period, except maybe the bow, unlike in Star Trek, where for 3 centuries, you have phaser pistols (OK, it was phase pistols, but the concept is close enough), teleporters, deflectors, inertial dampeners, warp nacelles, energy torpedoes, PADDs, universal and near-flawless translators, shields, etc... except more advanced over time but with the same basic technology.
Plus, if you can build an army that then can produce more of this weapon (highly unlikely in this time period), so can your foes once they steal one.
The Enterprise folks wanted him to be revealed as Chef aboard the Enterprise and get recruited by Daniels to impersonate his descendant, Captain Kirk, at a pivotal moment in history.
Shatner wanted to play Mirror Kirk. His take was to start off with Spock's agents assassinating Kirk after years of planning using the Tantalus Device. Only we'd discover that the device never destroyed anything but merely shuffled it around in time. Emerging in the Enterprise era (identical to what we normally see), he would proceed to corrupt it over a two parter and we'd learn that the Mirror Universe was a predestination paradox centering around the older Mirror Kirk, identical up until Enterprise.
I think Shatner's idea was stronger of the proposed Kirk cameos and think you can see loose echoes of it in "In a Mirror Darkly" even if they decided that the Mirror Universe had been corrupted for a couple of hundred years. (Archer implies the Empire was created in the mid-20th century.)
Oh. Oh.
Oh. Geez.
You don't suppose the Mirror Universe was created by the Na'kuhl, do you? Like... It was created in the Stormfront two-parter and continued to exist after Archer and his crew got things back on the right track?
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Or unlock the Cardassian uniform
What? Can't I dream?
The revamp is so content-light that you literally can get done with these missions under 15 minutes (the whole arc in under 1 hour). And after playing Ep 3 and 4 on Tribble, I honestly think you could actually merge the two episodes together.
And really, they can no longer call this the "Cardassian Struggle" because they completely dropped the ball after Episode 1.