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CRYPTIC: Allow REPUBLIC to have VULCAN Captains & Bridge Crew
strathkin
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If we go back 20 to 30+ years when Spock first started working with D'tan (TNG Era with Picard) on the Romulan Colonies near the Federation border a lot of what was going with Ambassidor Spock was secret squiral. Yet as of the timeline of the first Romulan missions on Viranat (A few decades later) I don't think anyone would claim it to be out of place to see a Vulcan living & working amoung those in the Colonies with their Romulan Brothers & Sisters. Perhaps not a common occurance but certainly wouldn't be out of place either nor would it require any change to the Romulan story as it is currently--it might even further reinforce it while offering players improved choice.
It would be another great way to showcase the work a great diplomat that united a once broken people (in character) while showing how Leonard Nimoy (Contributor to STO) out of character also united people in similar ways--a dream shared by Roddenberry who envisioned a Human Race without War, Hunger, or Homelessness along with universal access to free Education and Medicine.
Just like how Worf expanded options for Klingon's with the Federation, Spock should be allowed to do the same for the path a Vulcan's take in the game. So make the exact same options available in game for Vulcan's as Klingons. We should have the option to acquire Romulan Republic outfitted Vulcan (Romulan Uniform) available by selling DIL / spend 600 zen (Same as Klingons) to unlock the choice for your Captain; however make Very Rare DOFF rewards available to earn with Vulcan Bridge Officers & Romulan Republic Uniforms (Same as Klingon) Bridge Officers to join their bridge crew.
It would be another great way to showcase the work a great diplomat that united a once broken people (in character) while showing how Leonard Nimoy (Contributor to STO) out of character also united people in similar ways--a dream shared by Roddenberry who envisioned a Human Race without War, Hunger, or Homelessness along with universal access to free Education and Medicine.
Just like how Worf expanded options for Klingon's with the Federation, Spock should be allowed to do the same for the path a Vulcan's take in the game. So make the exact same options available in game for Vulcan's as Klingons. We should have the option to acquire Romulan Republic outfitted Vulcan (Romulan Uniform) available by selling DIL / spend 600 zen (Same as Klingons) to unlock the choice for your Captain; however make Very Rare DOFF rewards available to earn with Vulcan Bridge Officers & Romulan Republic Uniforms (Same as Klingon) Bridge Officers to join their bridge crew.
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*drifts off into a reverie*
With or without, I don't mind.
That's something I don't quite understand a well. I can't get humans and vulcans from marauding and no Klingons via diplomacy. It makes no sense.
@ OP: You can have a Vulcan via aliengen. It's the best you can do, otherwise allowing opposite faction races and uniforms for another faction is never a good idea, with maybe that one exclusive tier 4 doff achievement (but even then).
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Not allied with the KDF, are you?
My character Tsin'xing
Not Vulcan.
I have a joint Vulcan/Crew, down to Doffs, and It's a bit sad I cant use a D'kyr.
Especially now that it's Tier 5.
Not every Vulcan follows the teachings of Surak, in spite of the Vulcan establishment's efforts to enforce conformity.
No, he or she is going to have Vulcan traits like telepathy and the Vulcan nerve pinch, both of which LONG predated the rise of Surak, and so are not dependent on indoctrination. In fact, in the distant past, there were psionic battle techniques, at least according to the people responsible for the Vulcan Language Institute (which I believe included Marc Okrand, so while not hard canon, it has the weight of people who contributed to hard canon behind it), and the stories of the Rihannsu saga and the Vulcan's ___ novels. And Logic is not the exclusive purview of Vulcans, either. Much confusion over what exactly "Logic" means in a Vulcan context, but it has been well established to refer to a particular worldview established by Surak which was not itself Logic, but only included an emphasis on Logic. Logic is an academic discipline which even Humans had for thousands of years before they encountered Vulcans. To say, then, that no Vulcan who is not a follower of Surak (or, for that matter, no Romulan or Reman) would be logical is to misunderstand and misuse the term.
If anything, it's harder to have bridge officers from the opposite faction now than it was before, now that Marauding/Diplomacy officers are not trade-able.
removing BOFF faction restriction deserves its own thread. we are all at peace and it looks like even the Klingons are ready to go Explore.
If Cryptic had had any sense, any Romulan ship would be barred by the Khitomer Agreement from serving in any force that could come into conflict with the other ally, since it might mean RRF warbirds shooting at each other. Ditto any exchange officers from the allied governments, who would not be allowed to participate in any missions harmful to their own government.
But if Cryptic had had any sense, most of "Memory Lane" wouldn't have happened. For crying out loud, Makus, do you not see a friendly warbird orbiting Virinat? Identify your damn self before you start shooting, faelirh ih'wort nnea mogain!
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Not to mention the bad PR of blowing up your supposed allies. I think we gun down upwards of a dozen KDF or Starfleet in that mission. If Cryptic ever does another pas over the Romulan missions (doubtful, I know) I really hope they have the sense to make the Republic less involved in the Klingon-Federation war.
As mentioned before, not only that but RR players readily shoot each other as far as PvP goes since they belong to the rivaling factions. There's effectively a civil war within the Republic going on, if you want to make PvP a part of the game logic.
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PvP is a red herring. Feds shoot at Feds in PvP, too. KDF shoots at KDF in PvP, too. And PvP is not part of the storyline. There is no reason why we should not be able to fight one another in PvP; even people in the same fleet can PvP each other. A private PvP match can have cross-faction teams. If you want to consider it part of the storyline, it's best conceived as a simulation, that is, "war games."
Yes and no. I think when LoR hit the PvP queues still had some in-game justification going on referencing the war. At least in it's current state however, I checked, in-game descriptions have dubbed every single PvP instance in the game holographic exercise or war games. So yes, my point is moot, I wasn't aware of those changes.
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