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MACO Shield vs Leech
cmdrscarlet
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Could the MACO shield proc be a suitable replacement for Plasmonic Leech (due to the console's high cost for Feds)?
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A rom kdf account can have it on all 4 toons for 1k, issue hits when buying KDF doffs - sometimes way cheaper than fed, sometimes way more expensive and sometimes so rare they're not on the exchange. Roms can't fly nicer kdf or fed ships.
So, calling it a replacement is only true for severely handicaped players (Feds with low EC-Reserves, since KDF gets it nearly for free. Yes 1k zen for such a device is by all means nearly free), as it pales in comparasion. Like postinggum said, poor mans version with more restrictions.
No.
I've run Leech; and currently run the MACO shield and Energy Siphon 2 (with all flowcaps in the sci console slots) to boost energy levels and proc the AMP core on my Sci torpedo boats. Neither either of them nor both in conjunction, should be compared to the Leech. It is too misleading, as there is no equivalence.
By this I mean Spire Cores, KCB + assimilated, Emergency Weapon Cycle (Arbiter etc.), maxing out Electro Plasma Systems (including consoles) and Bounty Hunter's Friend. This, combined with enough weapon power boosts (high level EptW, X->W when running an EptX, and especially OSS) will help your weapons stay capped.
Leech is no longer the "OP Console" it once was as we have plenty of alternative, cheaper options.
Unfortunately, MACO is a bad shield from a bad set, and its power conduit should not be considered here.
If < 100 flow caps use MACO.
ELSE use plasmonic leech.
I think you answered your own question as those two are the ones that they tend to have stuck on the spacebar.
Well, very few dps'ers run CRF, SS, RRtW, or BO as a primary dps power, and the ones using THY/TS tend to not care about power levels. So for those of us using FAW/CSV, it's wonderful, and if you didn't know, stacks last long enough to be active constantly if you have your FAW/CSV on GCD.
SCM - Hive (S) - [02:31] DMG(DPS) - @jarvisandalfred: 30.62M(204.66K) - Fed Sci
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Spire Cores never reduced power drain for the purpose you're thinking about: Weapons Subsystem Power drain from weapons.
Borticus had a post about that a while back.
Edit: Found it! Here's Borticus' clarification.
http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/comment/12543241#Comment_12543241
It actually does. I tested it. Maybe it's changed since that time, but last I knew it did. I'd gain 4-10 power over a core that didn't have the resistances.
Although, maybe it was the 66% power transfer that increased the power? I guess I'll need to test it again.
I'm pretty sure that when those cores were released they did reduce weapon power drain by 10%. I'm sure i even saw tooltips saying that weapon drain is 9 insead of 10. However not long ago i got my hands on EWC trait and while i was playing around with it i noticed that warp core have no effect on power drain anymore. I guess they have change it at some point...
I checked as recently as the Delta Recruit event. I picked up a cheap crafted warp core that had the appropriate mod on it. The power resist worked to reduce power drain from firing weapons. I'm sure of it. If it still does, the mod will add around 6-8 weapon power, while also negating power drain effects in general.
SCM - Hive (S) - [02:31] DMG(DPS) - @jarvisandalfred: 30.62M(204.66K) - Fed Sci
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I checked when these were first started dropping, no change in tooltip when equipped, which I found a bit confusing at the time. Were you in a Breen ship with the console 3-set or a Mogai with the 2-set perhaps?
Sorry bro, but I think I'll put more stock into what Borticus says. You're not even sure yourself.
The Spire Cores' "Drain Resist" was resisting the effects of things like Energy Siphon, Tyken's Rift affecting the ship and not Weapons Power Drain like most in the game, including myself, believed.
Congratulations. You've irritated me enough that I went ahead and tested it again.
Flying a Science Command Cruiser. No powers were used or abilities used. No special buffs that would effect power costs or regen. A Mk II common Duet Core that I purchased for 1000 Ec vs the Kobali Core off a Samsar. Ran 8 XIV Phaser Arrays vs Kazon carrier for both tests. The Duet Core would run power levels to as far down as 60. The Kobali core...ran it down to as low as 50. Both tests were conducted for several minutes against a single target.
So yeah, power resistance from Warpcores does reduce the costs of firing weapons. And interestingly enough, I found that using Beam Fire At Will slightly increased the power drain from firing weapons.
http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/comment/12543241#Comment_12543241
In this very thread. I haven't checked the fleet core, but the Deut core has the same buff and does reduce weapon drain.
Actually, I believe a dev posted that info a while back as well, it's just not common knowledge because it's not in the power's description and weapon values jump around so much it's not immediately obvious.
It's possible what you're seeing is the result of the second portion of the Core, the Power Transfer Rate. While I've never taken the time to verify it myself, others have claimed that higher transfer rates cause the power lost from firing weapons to be restored during the firing cycle. This is in contradiction to how weapon firing cycles are stated to work though, with the energy held in limbo until the weapon finishes firing at which point it's returned immediately (or at least that's my understanding of it). I believe it had something to do with the surplus energy you would have had if overcapping where still available.
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My bad, I had forgotten there was another core with that specific bonus and just assumed you were using the Spire Core without reading closely enough. Odd that a dev would say specifically it's not supposed to work on weapons then, unless there's some other weird factor in there. Someone pointed at that Nadion Inversion uses the same terminology but it definitely has an impact on weapon drain.
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It'll be EPS, pretty much; the skill that people many moons ago thought was an auto fill-to-nine, then changed their minds and thought it was bobbins, and is now again an automatic fill-to-nine.
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