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Question about the timeline.

OK So I am VERY confused about the timeline of this game, compounded even more by the Delta Recruitment event and the Iconian War.

The game starts in 2409, early in the year presumably, with the events at Virinat and Vega Colony. If playing a Delta Recruit your future self appears to you during these early events, and you learn from your faction's respective Temporal Agent that your future self travelled back 18 months, so midway through 2410. So you progress through the story content, covering events that could easily span several seasons of Star Trek on TV as you resolve your factions respective war-time storyline, and then battle on Nimbus III, and against the True Way, Hakeev, Borg and Undine, all presumably still happening in 2409. However during the events of Cold Storage we complete the paradox when our Temporal Agebnt sends us back 18 months to meet our younger self. This means that the Breen Invasion story-arc, and possibly several arcs before hand such as The 4400 and Borg Advance, all MUST take place in the first half of 2410.

However after this we are thrust into the conflict over the Solonae Dyson Sphere, yet it is only when Tuvok summons the governments to the conference on the Jenolan Dyson Sphere that we are told we are in EARLY 2410, and this is when the Iconians choose to reveal themselves. This then leads us to an exploration of the Delta Quadrant and the formation of the Delta Alliance, something we can also assume to have taken place over a significant period of time. And then at the culmination of that story we are launched into the Iconian War, something that again would presumably be set over the course of several months. Assuming that Surface Tension taking place in early 2410 is correct (which makes the Delta Recruit event wrong) then it is only logical to assume we should be well into 2411, possibly even 2412 by this point, which if the Delta Recruit timeline is correct should be even more likely. And of course none of this takes into account Stardates presented in missions like Hearts and Minds, which are clearly shown to be set in 2412.

So my question is - what is going on? What years are this game taking place over, and when does the change occur?

Any thoughts?

Comments

  • nero#6673 nero Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Honestly I am not sure myself where this fits in with Star Trek Canon - however in some of my reading on Memory Alpha they reference things that took place in the STO system - but usually in passing - such as in reference to Picard and others...

    If you look at the storyline in some of the written novels that took place around or after different events in the series, or movies etc, they do not follow canon specifically - in fact sometimes horrifically. (For instance - in TNG: Relics, they find Scotty in a transporter pattern buffer - and he states that Kirk would have took the Enterprise out of mothballs to come find him etc - when he was ON the Enterprise-B when Kirk 'died'...) Continuity is not something that Star Trek is perfectly famous for - although Major events seem to correlate - usually..

    As far as the Iconian War, (Which I am still trying to wrap my head around) and the Dyson's Spheres (Which TNG;Relics actually exposes them as dangerous, worthless and not anything of importance) and etc etc... I honestly think this is simply for entertainment factor and not for the hard core people who invested themselves in the life of the Star Trek Universe as seen on TV and the Big screen... Just be glad we aren't stuck in the Abrahms alternate reality where Kirk is a moron, Spock is Bi-Polar and what not...

    I have played many Star Trek Games - Starfleet Command (1-3) Star Trek Bridge commander, Legacy - and frankly they are simply for the feel of being involved in the universe that so many of us love - and most of the time they get it wrong... STO seems to be the most immersive and well laid out game I have seen - however that doesn't mean it isn't going to have it's flaws...
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    protogoth wrote:
    Picard and his gang of misfits (Commander Quagmire, his sometime-girlfriend Counselor State-the-Obvious, Pinocchio aspiring to be a real boy, a blind helmsman, and Microbrain, not to mention Doctor I'm-here-as-a-thinly-veiled-love-interest-for-the-captain-and-otherwise-have-no-real-purpose and her son Annoying Boy Geekwiz)


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  • garhdogarhdo Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    I think you're confused by my post, considering the unrelated nature of your reply. My issue isn't with the game's place in canon, or its contradictions with established lore, but the errors with the ingame timeline as presented.
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    Honestly the game should be taking place over far longer a time period than it does.
    At the very least, the 5 years the actual game has existed over would be appropriate, a decade would be better.

    A little over one year? Preposterous. I don't know if this is Cryptic not thinking things through again or yet another insipid CBS rule.
  • nero#6673 nero Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    My apologies for misunderstand your first post - My mistake...

    I would have to agree - the timeline is absolutely insane how fast it moves - However if it was more realistic, the fast paced player base would leave - although it would be much more Trek-like if it was.
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    protogoth wrote:
    Picard and his gang of misfits (Commander Quagmire, his sometime-girlfriend Counselor State-the-Obvious, Pinocchio aspiring to be a real boy, a blind helmsman, and Microbrain, not to mention Doctor I'm-here-as-a-thinly-veiled-love-interest-for-the-captain-and-otherwise-have-no-real-purpose and her son Annoying Boy Geekwiz)


    I am no ones minion - I will do what is right
  • ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    There are two possibilities:

    1. One of the devs writing the Delta Recruit story screwed up.
    2. Your temporal agent and future self were lying, and just took the opportunity to complete the loop (and dressed it up to look like an 18 month gap, when in reality it was a lot less time).

    The second option works in-universe, I'll stick with that. It's hard enough to accept that you became an admiral in 18 months, imagine if you told them it was really 6-9 months.
  • nero#6673 nero Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    ashrod63 wrote: »
    There are two possibilities:

    1. One of the devs writing the Delta Recruit story screwed up.
    2. Your temporal agent and future self were lying, and just took the opportunity to complete the loop (and dressed it up to look like an 18 month gap, when in reality it was a lot less time).

    The second option works in-universe, I'll stick with that. It's hard enough to accept that you became an admiral in 18 months, imagine if you told them it was really 6-9 months.

    Yes - blaming time travel makes everything feel better - haha - frankly, temporal manipulation could be used to not only address the OP's Delta Quadrant conundrum, but also every other time related gaff in-game. Except for the fact that warp 9.98 in STO can take you from Earth to Qo'nos in what? 5 Min???

    50777087521_0fb2747817_z.jpg

    protogoth wrote:
    Picard and his gang of misfits (Commander Quagmire, his sometime-girlfriend Counselor State-the-Obvious, Pinocchio aspiring to be a real boy, a blind helmsman, and Microbrain, not to mention Doctor I'm-here-as-a-thinly-veiled-love-interest-for-the-captain-and-otherwise-have-no-real-purpose and her son Annoying Boy Geekwiz)


    I am no ones minion - I will do what is right
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