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The Iconians, Underplayed.

shadowmane20001shadowmane20001 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
I personally think that the Iconians are being under played. With their ability to appear anywhere, we have hardly seen any of them outside missions and episodes. I would like to see the game upped with them. How about you?

The Iconians, Underplayed. 51 votes

Yes, I would like to see more on the iconians and heralds. Perhaps Adding Red alerts to sector space with more of the iconian ships. Maybe even have a special Faction Red alert where you get a message Inside Sol system that you can join and battle the Iconians over Earth/ESD, Starfleet academy. Same for Q'ono's and New romulaus.
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No, I think it is find just there way it is.
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Here are my Ideas.
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  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    No, I think it is find just there way it is.
    Oh, my god, ANOTHER "I want Star Trek Online: Mass Effect" post.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Yes, I would like to see more on the iconians and heralds. Perhaps Adding Red alerts to sector space with more of the iconian ships. Maybe even have a special Faction Red alert where you get a message Inside Sol system that you can join and battle the Iconians over Earth/ESD, Starfleet academy. Same for Q'ono's and New romulaus.
    Oh, my god, ANOTHER "I want Star Trek Online: Mass Effect" post.

    I don't think it has to be quite THAT grim. I would agree with adding Herald Red Alerts at a bare minimum. If done like the typical Red Alert with the Borg, you of course have the option not to enter it should you personally not like it to be a part of your gameplay experience. I also agree with those who believe this season was badly timed to coincide with Risa. That should not have happened, IMO.

    Someone in another thread proposed server-wide events themed around defeating Heralds and Iconians, a little bit like what happened with the Delta Recruits. I like that idea, personally.

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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Yes, I would like to see more on the iconians and heralds. Perhaps Adding Red alerts to sector space with more of the iconian ships. Maybe even have a special Faction Red alert where you get a message Inside Sol system that you can join and battle the Iconians over Earth/ESD, Starfleet academy. Same for Q'ono's and New romulaus.
    I'm still waiting for the 'War' to start.​​
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  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Here are my Ideas.
    Up until this last FE, which showed just how dumb and vulnerable Iconians really are, I would have suggested having the Devs come on at completely random times playing the Iconians themselves as LIVE events.

    They could just gate in anywhere playing one of the individual 12 Iconains and some Heralds - ESD, DS9, Bajor, Drozana, etc., etc. and just start laying waste to anyone there. It would take a pretty massive effort to force them to retreat - a galaxy-wide 'red alert' so to speak as everyone at the attack location would instantly call for help. I know a lot of people would say, "But I was just there to check the Exchange, blah, blah, blah. I don't want random attacks!" But this sure would draw attention to the fact that a WAR was going on, that the Iconians can be anywhere anytime, and that they are REALLY powerful. It would keep everyone looking over their shoulder.

    But after the last FE, nevermind....just send some Pakleds to their ships and have them turn off the power. "Iconian's ship no power. Iconians smart like us. Die fast."
  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    Here are my Ideas.
    Fix the writing. it's the worst I've seen. Give us a resolution to this story which involves rejecting the god gun, like the alliance logically would in this situation.

    This is NOT a godzilla threshold situation until we've explored our other options and exhausted them. theres still at least 2 things we have not tried yet, namely the krenim time cloak and REGULAR time TRAVEL.

    Until our options are literally exhausted there is NO excuse for this.

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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Here are my Ideas.
    Here are my ideas: I'm presently past caring.

    Fixing/Changing one element of this game is not going to solve anything. More needs to be done, but what needs to be done (in my opinion at least) wont ever come about, so... yeah.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Yes, I would like to see more on the iconians and heralds. Perhaps Adding Red alerts to sector space with more of the iconian ships. Maybe even have a special Faction Red alert where you get a message Inside Sol system that you can join and battle the Iconians over Earth/ESD, Starfleet academy. Same for Q'ono's and New romulaus.
    gradii wrote: »
    Fix the writing. it's the worst I've seen. Give us a resolution to this story which involves rejecting the god gun, like the alliance logically would in this situation.

    I agree completely. We should have the option to reject the Krenim plan.. going back and erasing parts of the timeline is something that Starfleet wouldn't endorse. I would think the Klingons would strongly object as well, I mean.. isn't it 'dishonorable' to erase your opponent from time instead of facing them in battle? How is that not an act of cowardice?

    The frustrating part with the writing is that the story is presented like it's our only choice. Like if we don't do this drastic action we have no hope of winning. From the players perspective though, the Iconians aren't even a real threat. Everytime I have faced them from my perspective, I have mopped the floor with them. Be it the storyline, STF's, whatever.. the Iconians can't even scratch my hull. It's very strange to play these missions and hear that we're losing and everything is so bleak that we all have to sacrifice our most core rules and principals to have a chance.

    The entire thing is awkward and just poorly written.
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  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    Yes, I would like to see more on the iconians and heralds. Perhaps Adding Red alerts to sector space with more of the iconian ships. Maybe even have a special Faction Red alert where you get a message Inside Sol system that you can join and battle the Iconians over Earth/ESD, Starfleet academy. Same for Q'ono's and New romulaus.
    I like the idea of Iconian Red Alerts, that would be a nice change.

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  • shadowmane20001shadowmane20001 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    Yes, I would like to see more on the iconians and heralds. Perhaps Adding Red alerts to sector space with more of the iconian ships. Maybe even have a special Faction Red alert where you get a message Inside Sol system that you can join and battle the Iconians over Earth/ESD, Starfleet academy. Same for Q'ono's and New romulaus.
    gulberat wrote: »
    Oh, my god, ANOTHER "I want Star Trek Online: Mass Effect" post.

    I don't think it has to be quite THAT grim. I would agree with adding Herald Red Alerts at a bare minimum. If done like the typical Red Alert with the Borg, you of course have the option not to enter it should you personally not like it to be a part of your gameplay experience. I also agree with those who believe this season was badly timed to coincide with Risa. That should not have happened, IMO.

    Someone in another thread proposed server-wide events themed around defeating Heralds and Iconians, a little bit like what happened with the Delta Recruits. I like that idea, personally.

    Very true and even I would not want to be forced into a battle. I remember when the maps were segmented, and the enemy encounters FOLLOWED you to engage. So it's why I said special Faction Red alert meaning the Red alert icon appears in Sol System, New Romulas, Q'ono's allowing you to choose to join it.
  • shadowmane20001shadowmane20001 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    Yes, I would like to see more on the iconians and heralds. Perhaps Adding Red alerts to sector space with more of the iconian ships. Maybe even have a special Faction Red alert where you get a message Inside Sol system that you can join and battle the Iconians over Earth/ESD, Starfleet academy. Same for Q'ono's and New romulaus.
    gradii wrote: »
    Fix the writing. it's the worst I've seen. Give us a resolution to this story which involves rejecting the god gun, like the alliance logically would in this situation.

    I agree completely. We should have the option to reject the Krenim plan.. going back and erasing parts of the timeline is something that Starfleet wouldn't endorse. I would think the Klingons would strongly object as well, I mean.. isn't it 'dishonorable' to erase your opponent from time instead of facing them in battle? How is that not an act of cowardice?

    The frustrating part with the writing is that the story is presented like it's our only choice. Like if we don't do this drastic action we have no hope of winning. From the players perspective though, the Iconians aren't even a real threat. Everytime I have faced them from my perspective, I have mopped the floor with them. Be it the storyline, STF's, whatever.. the Iconians can't even scratch my hull. It's very strange to play these missions and hear that we're losing and everything is so bleak that we all have to sacrifice our most core rules and principals to have a chance.

    The entire thing is awkward and just poorly written.
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    reyan01 wrote: »
    I have to say that I too am no fan of the god-gun being our supposed only option.
    I'd like a mission or two where we DO explore other options, no matter how unlikely. For example, a trip to Fluidic space to see if the Undine, who know that they were manipulated, could send a planet killer or two to help us (since we know those damned things are capable of damaging a Dyson Sphere).

    I UTTERly Agree. Time cloaking devices, Time shields, Just not the Super weapon. That thing is more dangerous than the Doomsday machine.

    What I think We shoul dbe doing is making Chronoton infused weapons. Like the full auto rifle you get at the end of Broken Circle. Chronoton infused (antiproton) weapons (We already have Torpedos). Simple adjust them so that the weapons infuce the target with Chronoton Radiation. I know there is a chronoton dual Beam bank in the lobi store. So let us make single beams, Dual heavy cannons, dual cannons, cannons, turrets.

    There might be some story plot issues such as the Prophets the Bajoran wormhole aliens being vulnerable to them as well. But when I heard them talking about the idea of REBUILDING the time weapon.... No. No Thank you.
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,165 Arc User
    Here are my Ideas.
    A mission based on us trying to get the Undine to come save us!

    A mission based on whatever Sela is up to in the GQ

    Iconian Red Alerts

    The only outcome from using the timeship is bad... and in the end it'll most likely result in us blowing it up (Unless you can reverse time with more time.) thus making all this pointless.

    I say we go round the star back to 2409.... dump a TRIBBLE ton of chroniton mines in the Iconia System... and boom... we win the war!
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,009 Arc User
    No, I think it is find just there way it is.
    deokkent wrote: »
    I've seen how they behave in person. They're terrible characters, badly written. I understand they are the villains for the time being but there is such a thing as a sophisticated villain. Are Iconians a bunch of 4 year old with quasi omnipotent powers?
    I am also dumbfounded by M'Tara death. How does that even...

    Plot armor shenanigans are starting to annoy me.

    This. I don't like the iconian plot and I am tired of floaty purple space wizards.

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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Yes, I would like to see more on the iconians and heralds. Perhaps Adding Red alerts to sector space with more of the iconian ships. Maybe even have a special Faction Red alert where you get a message Inside Sol system that you can join and battle the Iconians over Earth/ESD, Starfleet academy. Same for Q'ono's and New romulaus.
    It's also silly that at one time all the races of the galaxy united and defeated the Iconians, but now the combined force of the entire Alliance doesn't have a chance.

    For crying out loud, they're energy beings.. can't we just hit them with an EMP?

    Anything is better then expecting us to buy the idea that they're so incredibly powerful that the only way to beat them is to irreparably destroy the timeline. If they go though with it and have us totally erase the Iconians, then they should roll the game back to season 9. Why? Because the Solane built the Dyson Spheres for the Iconians.. we remove the Iconians, we remove the Dyson Sphere that allows us to access the Delta Quadrant.

    That's one of thousands of potential plot problems that will result from removing the Iconians from time. It's just a big mess.. there are a million better ways to handle it.​​
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    Here are my Ideas.
    I think they will regret to build the ship for that purpose and they are going to transform it to give us a nice science vessel to play. :)
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    It's also silly that at one time all the races of the galaxy united and defeated the Iconians, but now the combined force of the entire Alliance doesn't have a chance.

    For crying out loud, they're energy beings.. can't we just hit them with an EMP?

    Anything is better then expecting us to buy the idea that they're so incredibly powerful that the only way to beat them is to irreparably destroy the timeline. If they go though with it and have us totally erase the Iconians, then they should roll the game back to season 9. Why? Because the Solane built the Dyson Spheres for the Iconians.. we remove the Iconians, we remove the Dyson Sphere that allows us to access the Delta Quadrant.

    That's one of thousands of potential plot problems that will result from removing the Iconians from time. It's just a big mess.. there are a million better ways to handle it.​​

    One other thing that people forget.

    If we erase the Iconians from the timeline, Romulus does not explode, which means the Romulan Republic would never have existed, and all our Romulan characters would just disappear!

    That is one thread that would alter the game entirely....

    Though Tovan Khev would be allowed to not exist, that would be okay. ;)

    I just hope it gets resolved with help from Sela, I just don't want to think about the timebomb method.
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  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    Yes, I would like to see more on the iconians and heralds. Perhaps Adding Red alerts to sector space with more of the iconian ships. Maybe even have a special Faction Red alert where you get a message Inside Sol system that you can join and battle the Iconians over Earth/ESD, Starfleet academy. Same for Q'ono's and New romulaus.
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  • lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
    I like the Red Alert Idea, but I also think they should add a ground aspect as well at random planets we can land on like Andoria, Vulcan, etc. Make it so you can bring a couple away team members too. I enjoy watching my away team monkey stomp Iconians. They could especially do this on the invasion maps.
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