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T6 Veteran Starships and T6 Starships

trwarbucktrwarbuck Member Posts: 274 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Just a few why nots.
Why couldn't you guys put a single Fighter hanger slot on the T6 Veteran Starships?
Why couldn't the T6 Verteran Starships have a Command Boff and a Pilot Boff Bridge position?
Why couldn't all T6 starships have 11 console slots with the Fleet Versions having 12 console slots?

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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited July 2015
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Trust me, the last thing you want on your Vet ship is a Hanger.

    Why?

    Because the history of Cryptic ship design tells us that adding a Hangar means they take away another feature to compensate. So in exchange for a Hangar bay that is functionally worthless due to poor Pet AI and constant Pet Nerfs, you'll lose something like the Transformation feature, a Weapon Hard point, or something else more useful.

    If you like the Vet ship, the fact that it doesn't have a hangar works greatly in your favor. As a Captain of a Presidio Class, I can tell you without a doubt that I would trade my Hangar Bay for the full suite of Cruiser commands in less then a heart beat. ​​
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  • trwarbucktrwarbuck Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    Why not two specialist Boffs? Because the newer (all of the ones being released on 7/16, just look at the stats) ships being released has two specialist Boffs slots, there are also escort ships that is equipped to carry fighters (Armitage for example), and many of the newer ships that is the same size of these ships are carrying fighters. Also the Veteran ships are just badazz starships that deserve something special. Okay, I'll give you the console slot one, but the Veteran starship is counted as being a premium starship. But, preimum starships have 10 slots at T5 (11 for T5U and Fleet variants) and 11 at T6. The T5 veteran ship has 10 and with the T5U and fleet variant having 11, so why shouldn't the T6 veteran starship follow the same molding that the other T6 premium starships. Since the T5 veteran ship has 10, the T6 veteran ship should have 11 with the fleet variant having one more than the T6 variant...12 console slots.
  • timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    The original veteran ship never was counted as a premium ship. Many people wanted it to be one and they got it finally with the fleet version. But in reality it is an exclusive vanity ship. That is not the same as premium. Just something not everyone can have.
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  • trwarbucktrwarbuck Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I draw your attention to the "Year of Hell" starships.
    T6 Krenim Imperium Warship: 1 Lt. Intel/Tactical, 1 Lt. Cmd. Universal/Pilot
    T6 Zahl Heavy Cruiser:1 Lt. Science/Intel, 1 Lt. Cmd. Universal/Command
    The first run of Pilot Starshipshave two Boff slots that are ?/Pilot (Fed is Tactial/Pilot and Science/Pilot)
    Xindi Starships - T6 Primate: Ateleth Lt. Engineer/Intel, Lt. Cmd. Universal/Command and the T6 Insectoid Olaen: Lt. Tactical/Pilot, Lt. Cmd. Science/Command

    I think I have given enough examples of some of the most recent starships that has more than one specialist Boff position. Plus, I paid for my lifetime subscription and had to give additional money for the Fleet variant. I think the T5 and T6 veteran ships should be more than just any other T5 or T6 starship. The other things that lifetime subscribers get isn't worth anything when compared to the starships. This being the case, they should be the best. So yes, the T5 and T6 veteran starship should have a single fighter hanger slot, should have premium starship slots, and should have two Boff Specialist positions (T6 only). Afterall, I paid for it.
  • timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    No you didn't Nowhere in the contract with Cryptic does it say, that you are entitled to the best ship in game. And FYI, you get THREE ships included in the LTS. They are comparable to Standard T5 c-store ships, so let's say 25k Zen per ship, that's 75k Zen just for the ships plus all the other perks and oh,... the lifetime gold access to the game and stipend!
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  • timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
    No you didn't Nowhere in the contract with Cryptic does it say, that you are entitled to the best ship in game. And FYI, you get THREE ships included in the LTS.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,910 Arc User
    trwarbuck wrote: »
    Just a few why nots.
    Why couldn't you guys put a single Fighter hanger slot on the T6 Veteran Starships?
    Why couldn't the T6 Verteran Starships have a Command Boff and a Pilot Boff Bridge position?
    Why couldn't all T6 starships have 11 console slots with the Fleet Versions having 12 console slots?

    Because that would make the ships OP and I believe they said they don't want LTS to be a requirement...I'm a lifer and I don't think they should do this.

    My only complaint honestly is that it was Command and not Pilot :P
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Regarding the T6 ships having 11 consoles by default and 12 at the Fleet level, no. It seems many have forgotten exactly what T5U was supposed to be and what it meant compared to T6. Cryptic's news entry about the matter from 27 Aug 2014, before Delta Rising hit:

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7002133
    "As mentioned above, upgraded Tier 5 ships (or T5-U ships) will offer many of the same benefits provided by Tier 6 starships minus a few bells and whistles.
    T5-U ships will feature a sizeable number of additional hit points that will increase as your captain levels up, an additional console slot, and four Starship Mastery levels."

    The Console Slots for T5U is one of the perks for that tier.

    Fleet T5: 10 Consoles
    Fleet T5U: 11 Consoles
    T6: 10 Consoles
    Fleet T6: 11 Consoles

    Or another way to think of T5U is that it's T5.5 B) It has some of the important perks of T6 but not the whole deal.
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  • lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
    The Vet Ship is the worst looking in game for Feds. I may suffer through it just to unlock the trait but that will be about it. At least the KLink and Romulan version look nice.
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