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i'm going to take break from STO for awhile. i was bashed on Risa 5 because i am Transgender which i explained to my friend.. not my fault. of course, they jumped on me about me being not girl and not transgender etc etc.. kept calling me "he" and using non-existing old name. they continued to bash me for 10-30 minutes.

it's so hurtful and degrading.
i'm really thinking of staying away from such kinds of people. even alot of Transgender people gets bashed just because of who they are.
i mean, how can players respond to someone like that? this is Star Trek. not really kind of such things to hate on someone like that because of what they don't fit/follow in with Society's views.

they believe the transgender can be bullied and hated, hurt. but it really does matter if the person who is transgender. they have alot of respect for being who they are and stand in adversity. here are alot of those people in job fields that are transgender. i love and admire, hug them all equally for being who they are in their jobs and proud of it. not afraid to show it off.

me.. i'm just struggling in my life.. i went through too many things that would make you break down and quit. not me. i break down and cry, but keep going.

right now, i just need little break.. i have too much things going on to affect my mood and my life.
Fleet commander of Slippery When Wet.
i am Deaf Transgender girl. i'm Known to others as Korra.
you can find me on Tumblr, Twitter, Twitch
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  • lsegnlsegn Member Posts: 594 Arc User
    *sigh* welcome to planet Earth.

    Please keep politics off the forums they only cause massive flame fests. I'm sorry for what happened but if you can't grow a thicker skin you don't belong anywhere near the Internet.
  • rcassandrasaturnrcassandrasaturn Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    lsegn wrote: »
    *sigh* welcome to planet Earth.

    Please keep politics off the forums they only cause massive flame fests. I'm sorry for what happened but if you can't grow a thicker skin you don't belong anywhere near the Internet.
    this is not politics post, i'm just writing an report of what happened today. and why i'm going on hiatus.
    Fleet commander of Slippery When Wet.
    i am Deaf Transgender girl. i'm Known to others as Korra.
    you can find me on Tumblr, Twitter, Twitch
  • nishizawasannishizawasan Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    Um..okay, cya on Risa in about a week.
  • rubystarsrubystars Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    Didn't participate in zonechat but I was there at the time. You're the person who mentioned shoving objects into your nether regions, right?

    Doesn't look like it was your transgender status that was the issue. Couple of people mentioned it was against the ToS too.

    Maybe if you stopped baiting people in zone with the explicit sex chat and took it to your own channel, they'd leave you alone?
  • nishizawasannishizawasan Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    You also host faux "sex parties" in Risa Zone chat, which has nothing to do with gender bashing. I do believe the powers at Cryptic have been more than lenient with letting it slide for as long as it's been going on.
  • spacegoatcx#8996 spacegoatcx Member Posts: 175 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I was there for that entire incident and one of the ones calling you out on it.

    Your gender identity had absolutely nothing to do with that incident but rather your repeated spamming of zone with extremely pornographic and misogynistic remarks.

    Identifying as female is something that no one present during that cared about, what we cared about is how you blatantly objectify and fetishise women.

    That you resorted to playing a gender identity card, though this was not the topic of the incident at all originally, as an attempt to justify such behavior only served to further insult all present, including women and members of the LGBT community, and contributed to further negative reactions and alienation by the community.

    I also witnessed your whining afterwards in your own channel about how horrible people are for having reported you for your above actions.

    The responsibility lies with yourself and not with others, and incessantly abusing your alleged identity as an attempted "get out of jail free" card only worsens matters.

    In conclusion, use your time away to think about personal responsibility and how you approach it.
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  • roroatan79roroatan79 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    I was there as well. Not only did you believe it was perfectly sociable to inform us of your sexual habits, you proceeded to explain it away as "easing the sexual tension" of the other players. An act I am sure most, if not all, the players in that chat found wholly unnecessary. Then, as it was obvious to some of the players that had ignored you that it in fact was you , zonechat was told that you are known for this for awhile now, and that your gender is not as female as you portray in the game.

    A couple of the players who railed against you, tried to let you know that a woman would not subject herself to this kind of attention in a game that common sense tells you is overpopulated with boys, and boys who think they're men, and men who act like boys. Most of these were, in fact, women themselves. They found it degrading, and you were basically like: "So?"

    Who should and shouldn't be playing the game does not matter one bit, because just as you disregarded the TOS, common sense dictates that a few 12 years olds probably would and have and are doing so as well. Responsibility is indeed such a hard thing to do. But you have to know that there are boundaries as to what you put out publicly, and that the time and the place is of theutmost importance.

    If you are a woman, or a man, or gender fluid; g a y, straight, bi, or asexual: anyone with any amount of maturity does not put themselves out there like you have, unless they are fishing for a certain type of attention they aren't receiving in their real life. And you can say what you will, Cass, the fact that you mentioned also (much later, after you had gone off into your own channel to garner sympathy for all the supposed trans hate you received, and returned for more) how you would be a better mother to your children than your own mother had, screams to me that you either are a habitual liar and narcissist willing to do anything to get attention, or someone who definitely needs someone to talk to. Therapy, as much as most will probably ridicule it, may be something you want to look into. Because on the off chance that you have a chaotic life, the choice to set your life right and be happy lies alone with you and your decision making capabilities, as someone above has stated already.

    In closing, no one should tear your process as a transgender person through the mud, but you dangling your transgender status as a defense shield to not be talked bad about, after you've been informed that your decision to to get freaknasty in chat is not being well received, won't make anything easier. It's common knowledge that catfishing is a real thing, and that alot of people pretend to be something they are not. And that there are plenty of people faking the funk in order to get free things in an mmo. There are other ways of getting sympathy without forcing people to sympathize after the stunts you pull on Risa.

    No one would have known you were transgender if you hadn't mentioned it ( you know, when you were appalled at the reactions you were getting, while at the same time belittling everyone else because they couldn't 'lighten up').
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Well, the problem is yours in first place for listening to em. Just shut off the chat and thats it. Most people in this game dont use the general chat. Most people dont even use chat at all.. lol (unless they need to talk with your fleetmates or something). And the ones who generally use the general chat are just kids and trolls, mostly. Of course there is one small exception for beginners that are just trying to ask for help. But more than that.. So, just hide the chat and you will be fine. Ignore the guys you want and thats it. Problem solved. I tell you people in the general chat will bully a lot of people, not just you.. it is the way the general chat evolved in this game.

    And you should not be feel bad about it , you should be feeling confident about yourself, and ignore those dumb bullies that have no brain. Seriously some of em are just.. well, probably kids, so they still dont have brains to understand anything, specially stuff about real lifes.

    I really dunno who was faults, but it is obvious, whatever happened, they dont have the rights to call you anything. But you should have not said that you are a trasgender. That is really dangerous thing to say knowing how people behave in the STO chats...
  • gazurtoidgazurtoid Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    kittyflofy wrote: »
    Well, the problem is yours in first place for listening to em. Just shut off the chat and thats it. Most people in this game dont use the general chat. Most people dont even use chat at all.. lol (unless they need to talk with your fleetmates or something). And the ones who generally use the general chat are just kids and trolls, mostly. Of course there is one small exception for beginners that are just trying to ask for help. But more than that.. So, just hide the chat and you will be fine. Ignore the guys you want and thats it. Problem solved. I tell you people in the general chat will bully a lot of people, not just you.. it is the way the general chat evolved in this game.

    And you should not be feel bad about it , you should be feeling confident about yourself, and ignore those dumb bullies that have no brain. Seriously some of em are just.. well, probably kids, so they still dont have brains to understand anything, specially stuff about real lifes.

    I really dunno who was faults, but it is obvious, whatever happened, they dont have the rights to call you anything. But you should have not said that you are a trasgender. That is really dangerous thing to say knowing how people behave in the STO chats...

    Whilst I agree with many of the sentiments you express, I could not disagree more with the final two sentences of your post. You are implying that someone that is transgender should hide away for fear that people in chat may insult them. This is 2015. No-one should have to hide away because of their sexual or gender identity.

    That said, I am highly sceptical of the original poster's account of this incident. I have unfortunately seen the occasional transphobic comments made in STO's zone chat from time to time (just like I have seen the occasional comments grounded upon racism, homophobia and other prejudices). That said, in each of these instance other players have rallied and not allowed such ignorant and prejudicial remarks to go unchallenged. So whilst there may be a few knuckle draggers, the majority of STO players are far more understanding and accepting. In addition, the posts by others appear to indicate that the original poster may be omitting certain facts about explicit comments she may have made in zone chat, which appear to have been the reason why people challenged her.
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  • unsacredgraveunsacredgrave Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    I remember his/her username, and he/she was posting nudes(butt pic) on ESD Zone Chat some time ago. I doubt the hate was about gender things...
  • smeeinn1tsmeeinn1t Member Posts: 618 Arc User
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    Hah, I knew your name rang a bell! I remember putting you on ignore a few days ago on Risa.

    Put it this way even Dental consider you a problematic and unpleasant individual.
    Very pleased that I put you on ignore, really should have put complaint in, but didn't figuring you were just being dumb for a day...
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I'll ignore the he said/she said of whatever happened in chat and address the 2 points in your first post...

    1)hate spewing on TG, or anyone else. - Nope thats not very federation like, but we're not living in the perfect communist society full of love and happy pookas(epohh) that Roddenberry envisioned.... SURPRISE! people irl are petty, violent, stupid, reactionary, and hateful... Enjoy your reality check into human nature and let it teach you.

    2)you didnt like being hated on so you're gonna go hide. - Bad idea for anyone, running away from such behavior and hiding from it and/or pretending it doesn't exist won't help the situation at all. You need to accept that people can and will do these things and learn to live with that reality if you plan to continue to announce you are different from them in any way. Why? See 1.
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    I was also not present on Risa for what had occurred (I personally finished my Risa events a couple of weeks ago).

    I did look up the OP's name on my ignore list, because it sounded familiar, and you are on it. I have even found the ticket where I personally reported you on ESD for your explicit comments. This is all I can comment on.

    I do leave you with this:

    "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"
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  • captaintroikacaptaintroika Member Posts: 210 Arc User
    The OP Is exactly the kind of person that should be permabanned from STO. This is a game played by younger teens and kids and it's not appropriate for people to be spraying their sexual fantasies across public chat channels to satisfy their exhibitionist streak.

    It reminds me of the old Droz before it got cleaned up, and not in a good way.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    Hey guys, what's going on in this threa--

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  • borgified007borgified007 Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    Wow man I can't say I'm surprised to see this come up again. You remember me Cassandra I'm sure. Brence here you know that guy you called a LGBT hater months ago in yet another drama thread you started. Will you ever change your ways?

    Here I saved this from that other thread that Trendy locked where you accused me. Please re-read.

    Wow Cassandra Saturn. Many of us in ESD (Risa) know that you are a troll and a guy pretending to be a girl. Its not usually an issue as noone really cares about the sex of another player or whether they are playing a male or female toon. When it becomes an issue is when you sit in ESD (Risa) all day saying you have great TRIBBLE and flirting with guys in zone chat bragging about being promiscuous and sleeping with men etc. Now if you were up front with those guys first and said you were really a guy who wants to get a sex change etc, I don't think anyone would have an issue with you.

    You started accusing me of being an LGBT hater which is unsubstantiated and immediately attacked me in ESD chat. I havent been in ESD chat in at least two weeks and had said nothing negative at all about anything when you straight up accused me of this.

    So I the accused am setting the record straight. Stop bringing your drama to STO zone chat (Risa) and it's not wanted or needed here on the forums. Stop flirting with guys who think your are a girl. Hint, I was tipped off by another guy about you so apparently you try the same tactic multiple times in ESD and got caught. You need to take that mess to Drozanna if you want to do that. (Stop posting sexually explicit links in general chat and making sexually suggestive comments)

    I don't have an issue with anyone's gender choice or what they do in their private life. You don't need to advertise that TRIBBLE in zone chat for little kids to read though, and you certainly don't need to be misleading guys pretending to be a female.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    ​​I have seen some of the OP's stuff in Zone chat and is one of the people that I have on my block list.

    I support tolerance for all genders and sexual preferences, it's not about that. It's about you personally being an immature person that lives off generating hostility and then hiding behind your gender like a shield.

    Unless your approach to human interaction changes dramatically, then perhaps your hiatus is better off made permanent. I do wish you luck and hope that one day you realize that the common denominator in all these conflicts is you.
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  • smeeinn1tsmeeinn1t Member Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    That funny old activity link really should be looked at...
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Gees... I always miss the good stuff.
    Wait... I don't turn Zone chat on anymore...
    Heh... After reading this thread, seems I don't really have to.
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    People are people regardless of.. um Preferences, and hence deserve to be treated with respect. It's really stupid that there are people who will use things like that as a basis to attack.

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  • grayfoxjamesgrayfoxjames Member Posts: 1,516 Arc User
    Wow missed the whole thing *eats popcorn*. Damn STO community really does pay attention and look out for each other :). You cause a mess in zone chat and then try to cry wolf here in the forums...looks like someone just got called out :tongue:. Haha love it.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    Looks like the shoe's on the other foot, Dentals:
    I don't think anyone is responding to you because you're not supposed to quote TOS violations or engage with disruptive posts, you're supposed to report and ignore them.
    This from one of your trollfleet leaders. So, why aren't you doing it?
  • r5e4w3q2r5e4w3q2 Member Posts: 341 Arc User
    This thread still open?

    Rare to see this kind of thing closed on a normal weekend, and it is a holiday weekend so probably even less oversight around here.

    Multiple ToS violation < fireworks!
  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    Like Col. Sanders once said,"I'm too drunk, to taste this chicken."
    How does this apply to the thread? It dont.
    How does this thread apply to the game? It dont.
    Well, troll on,.I'll just refill my popcorn bowl, and fetch another beer.
  • rcassandrasaturnrcassandrasaturn Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    can you guys stop bashing me on the forums as well? i have never seen such blatant disrespect.. on the forums.
    Fleet commander of Slippery When Wet.
    i am Deaf Transgender girl. i'm Known to others as Korra.
    you can find me on Tumblr, Twitter, Twitch
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    can you guys stop bashing me on the forums as well?

    Pretty sure the court of public opinion already ruled against you, from what I've read.
    i have never seen such blatant disrespect.. on the forums.

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    i have never seen such blatant disrespect.. on the forums.
    85 posts and you've never?? Did you actually READ anything or just make random posts?

    like Iconians said
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  • rcassandrasaturnrcassandrasaturn Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    i have never seen such blatant disrespect.. on the forums.
    85 posts and you've never?? Did you actually READ anything or just make random posts?

    like Iconians said
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    i'm veteran, but i don't use forums very much because of real life stuff.
    Fleet commander of Slippery When Wet.
    i am Deaf Transgender girl. i'm Known to others as Korra.
    you can find me on Tumblr, Twitter, Twitch
  • captaintroikacaptaintroika Member Posts: 210 Arc User
    Looks like the shoe's on the other foot, Dentals:
    I don't think anyone is responding to you because you're not supposed to quote TOS violations or engage with disruptive posts, you're supposed to report and ignore them.
    This from one of your trollfleet leaders. So, why aren't you doing it?

    Reality check: you're defending someone who posts pornographic material in public channels in a game that kids play.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Looks like the shoe's on the other foot, Dentals:
    I don't think anyone is responding to you because you're not supposed to quote TOS violations or engage with disruptive posts, you're supposed to report and ignore them.
    This from one of your trollfleet leaders. So, why aren't you doing it?

    Reality check: you're defending someone who posts pornographic material in public channels in a game that kids play.

    So why don't you just report her and move on? Isn't that what you're supposed to do when somebody breaks TOS?
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