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Mirror Universe/Alternate Timeline Questions

elglass#2975 elglass
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So, in the Prime Universe, V'Ger shows up to Earth and the Enterprise goes out and stuff happens and V'Ger leaves. An Alien Probe that snuffs power sources shows up looking for Whales and the crew of the enterprise travel back in time and save the day. How did those crises get averted in the Mirror Universe? Did they get averted?

In First Contact, Picard and company go back in time to stop the Borg assimilating Earth in the past. If the Borg had been successful how would they have dealt with V'Ger or the Whale Probe?
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Earth is destroyed, the Terren Empire is seen as week and overthrown by the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance after a long war. The Borg were never encountered by Picard (in Q Who) or the Hansons (Raven) so they never tried to stop First Contact.
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    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    Well, the moment of divergence happened sometime in the 17th century (I think?)... anyhow, it happened long before the launch of Voyager 6 or the first encounter of the Borg.

    However, I have given these kinds of idea some thought, myself... technically speaking, the Borg (or, say, the Dominion) exist in the mirror universe... and they could easily ROFL-stomp that universe, a la "Worst of All Worlds." That would be fascinating to explore (Borg, or Dominion, attack in the mirror universe).
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  • elglass#2975 elglass
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    Mirror Earth still had the same warp flight that brought in the Vulcans as shown in Enterprise season 4 when he pulls out a shotgun instead of Vulcan hand shaking. I don't remember them saying anywhere that Earth was destroyed but might not have been paying attention during DS9 episodes.

    It shows divergence happening earlier on true, but even if Voyager 6 was never sent out, it could easily be assumed that Humpback whales would have been wiped out the same in that universe, especially given humankinds more aggressive nature in that universe. It was also explained that the Borg were the ones responsible for the disappearance of Romulan and Federation starbases along the neutral zone at the end of Season 1 of TNG. That was before Picard ever met the Borg, which insinuates they were in the beta quadrant before Season 2 when they made their first appearance, so their appearance in Season 3 could still easily have happened in the Mirror Universe as well. How would the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance have dealt with the Borg invasion?

    Really my question was just to drum up some fun discussion of potentially cool stories. I've been thinking of dabbling in the Foundry a bit, and love getting ideas bounced around to play with.
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    Whale probe in the mirror universe... that sounds like a fantastic foundry mission to me, LOL. :smiley:
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  • k20vteck20vtec Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    Diverted somewhere in WW2 I think... SO perhaps instead of shoot a probe to explore, the mirror-people spend all their Resources for war. As for whales... Mirror people perhaps found a way to ride giant whales to battle, therefore whales are perserved.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,469 Arc User
    The V'ger probe isn't an issue, as the Terran Empire would never have sent out the Voyager probe series - manned missions would have been much more effective at implanting in the populace the idea that the Empire owns these worlds.

    The whale probe? The Terran Empire would have thrown everything they had at it. That may have been the event that finally weakened the Empire to the point that the coalition of Klingons and Cardassians felt comfortable tearing it down and enslaving the Humans. (Because of course the Terran Empire let the whales go extinct - they're not useful for extending the Emperor's reach, so they're useless. That's the sort of flaw that usually brings down empires - an arrogant dismissal of anything that doesn't seem immediately useful to the central government.)
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