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Cryptic, another use for ship upgrade tokens

s2racings2racing Member Posts: 53 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
With all of the T6ing of T5 ships going on, I suggest allowing the ship upgrade tokens to upgrade a T5U ship to an appropriate T6- (which would include the trait on the non-fleet version but may or may not include the skin or console) ship whenever the normal T6 version is ever released. It'd increase demand for SUTs and most likely reduce complaints about gouging for the same ship every so often.
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    I think this would be great.

    There problem is, will Cryptic really go for selling previous owners a ship for $5 when players have already demonstrated they are willing to pay $30?

    I'm not holding my breath...
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    bergins wrote: »
    I think this would be great.

    There problem is, will Cryptic really go for selling previous owners a ship for $5 when players have already demonstrated they are willing to pay $30?

    I'm not holding my breath...
    Except, in the instance above, players wouldn't be getting the new skin(s) or ability. They'd just be getting the option to upgrade a Fleet T5U ship to a Fleet T6.

    Using the Negh'var as an example; if you purchased a T5 Fleet one, then upgraded it once to T5U, you should then be able to use an upgrade token a second time to upgrade it straight to Fleet T6 (or maybe, T6, then a third token for Fleet T6). Cryptic aren't losing out on anything (cause the c-store versions of these ships are first required in order to gain the ability/costume).

    Sounds like a winner to me.
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  • alex284alex284 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    flash525 wrote: »
    bergins wrote: »
    I think this would be great.

    There problem is, will Cryptic really go for selling previous owners a ship for $5 when players have already demonstrated they are willing to pay $30?

    I'm not holding my breath...
    Except, in the instance above, players wouldn't be getting the new skin(s) or ability. They'd just be getting the option to upgrade a Fleet T5U ship to a Fleet T6.

    Using the Negh'var as an example; if you purchased a T5 Fleet one, then upgraded it once to T5U, you should then be able to use an upgrade token a second time to upgrade it straight to Fleet T6 (or maybe, T6, then a third token for Fleet T6). Cryptic aren't losing out on anything (cause the c-store versions of these ships are first required in order to gain the ability/costume).

    Sounds like a winner to me.


    Unless someone already has the T5 version and they could be convinced to buy the t6 version for $30.

    For example, there was already a t5 and t5u galaxy class. The OP's idea would be to make the upgrade to t6 cost $5. Cryptic's idea was to sell the t6 for $30.

    True, a new player who has no ships would have to pay $35 under the OP's idea but only $30 under cryptic's for a t6 galaxy class. But I'm betting that there are enough people who already have t5u galaxy classes who are willing to spend $30 to justify Cryptic's system.
  • s2racings2racing Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    A new player with no ships would be better off paying the $30 for the T6 rather than the $34/39 for the T5 and 2 SUTs (which only cost $5 if you buy a bundle of 4, base price is $7). And yes, the idea is for people who already have the T5 to simply not get completely screwed in the upgrading process and maybe get the people who were sitting on T5(U)s (since T6 was gimped so as not to invalidate previous purchases of T5 ships in the first place) to buy something rather than completely passing it up or even quitting the game due to how even more blatantly money-sucking it's gotten since DR.
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    Can we get some more (canon) KDF outfits, an assortment of respectable skirts/dresses, a long jacket (and more clothes in general) that does plain white well, melee weapon and Mk 15 drops, a T6 Nova, and account-wide lockbox/lobi/promo ships & consoles? Oh, and...
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  • hojain2020hojain2020 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    OP That would be a nice idea therefore I doubt cryptic will implement it. I suppose the hard work in designing new traits and skins justifies the price. Or that some if not all the value of the ship could be mitigated by dil refining.
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  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    I've brought most of the t6 ships but! either the new ones with no lower tier counter part or! t6 ones that have a lower tier ship that I don't own.

    With the t6 Avenger etc coming out I am not going to pay again as already got fleet one.

    so I personally would throw my money at them if they did this and increased the price from 700 to 1000 Zen for example to cover the double use.

    since there is only two things that push t5u and t6 apart and that's traits and extra bonus which isn't all that wow in happy to keep my t5u tbh
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    s2racing wrote: »
    With all of the T6ing of T5 ships going on, I suggest allowing the ship upgrade tokens to upgrade a T5U ship to an appropriate T6- (which would include the trait on the non-fleet version but may or may not include the skin or console) ship whenever the normal T6 version is ever released. It'd increase demand for SUTs and most likely reduce complaints about gouging for the same ship every so often.

    I think one problem might be more or less practical - if they create yet another sub-variant of a ship, it means adding a lot of extra data.

    The other might be financial - they might not be making as much money as they could right now. Of course, theoretically some people that before were not willing to pay the full price for a Tier 6 ship, who would now acquire an upgrade token or two for such an upgrade. But will that compensate enough?
    They have 15 % Bonus Zen and 20 % ship sales, so if you really want to get it a bit cheaper, you can, provided you can be that patient...
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  • veryth12veryth12 Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    s2racing wrote: »
    With all of the T6ing of T5 ships going on, I suggest allowing the ship upgrade tokens to upgrade a T5U ship to an appropriate T6- (which would include the trait on the non-fleet version but may or may not include the skin or console) ship whenever the normal T6 version is ever released. It'd increase demand for SUTs and most likely reduce complaints about gouging for the same ship every so often.

    I think one problem might be more or less practical - if they create yet another sub-variant of a ship, it means adding a lot of extra data.

    The other might be financial - they might not be making as much money as they could right now. Of course, theoretically some people that before were not willing to pay the full price for a Tier 6 ship, who would now acquire an upgrade token or two for such an upgrade. But will that compensate enough?
    They have 15 % Bonus Zen and 20 % ship sales, so if you really want to get it a bit cheaper, you can, provided you can be that patient...

    You are right, it would be too much to have a "real" T6 version and a "gimp" version if you use the tokens. The base idea is not too bad though, just keep in mind that the easy way for Cryptic to adjust the finance end is that it does not have to take only 1 upgrade token to upgrade from a T5-U to a T6 if it is implemented.

    I will agree with others in the thread. I am very unlikely to buy the T6 version of a ship that I already have a T5-U version of. I would be more open to upgrading the T5-U versions to a fll T6. To behonest, now that they have been releasing so many ships they way they have, I am not egar to buy anything and am waiting fo things to settle a bit because I am worried if I buy a ship today, then they might relsease a ship I would rather have tomorrow (similiar feling you get when you buy something and then find it the next day in a 50% off sale). An upgrade system though would change that thinking.
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