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T6 "Battlecruisers"

orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
edited June 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
The blog just came out. I saw no official posting for them other than it.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9416803-star-trek-online:-tier-6-battlecruisers

Is the Heavy Warbird classified as a Battlecruiser now...? Or is it a casual label-slap like the Pilot Raptors and Pilot Warbirds got in the "Pilot Escort Mega Bundle"?
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    f9thretxcf9thretxc Member Posts: 505 Arc User
    Oh hell yeah! My second fav. Cruiser is getting a T6 upgrade!

    I've been waiting for this one for quite a while now.
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    nesomumi2nesomumi2 Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    500k DPS, here we come.
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    rangerryurangerryu Member Posts: 284 Arc User
    Might pick up the Arbiter, Huh just realised the Avenger was my first C-Store ship purchase........
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    drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    The Fed and Klingon ships may take the ugly record, and hopefully hold it for years to come. Just terrible.

    In my own case, Cryptic can keep these. Don't want.
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    dongemaharudongemaharu Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    Well, there goes my hopes of a T6 Avenger getting a better skin. I swear, I think it's intentional at this point. I'll buy it if it comes with a giant space paper bag to cover it up.
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    vivenneanthonyvivenneanthony Member Posts: 1,278 Arc User
    The Romulan has the best look. Im not sure if the Fed ship beat the ugliest of the Fedb Dyson ship. Hmmm. Almost definitely. Excellent work Cryptic.
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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    The Arbiter's saucer section makes me want a Tier 6 Star Cruiser.
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    gazurtoidgazurtoid Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    No surprises here. 10 ec says Defiant/B'Rel/T'Varo next.
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    zarato4218zarato4218 Member Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    gazurtoid wrote: »
    No surprises here. 10 ec says Defiant/B'Rel/T'Varo next.

    Yep, and after that something to do with Escort Carriers perhaps. ;)

    Also, I agree with vivenneanthony, the T6 Mogai is the best looking of the lot, even though its hardly any different from the two original varients. But since the Mogai was always my second favorite Rom design, behind the Scimitar (Don't hate me :) ) I could be biased.

    EDIT: Also, am I the only one who was most excited at the prospect that this could mean they fixed the old Avenger's abaltive bridge armor bug. I'd really like my windows back. :)
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    orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    zarato4218 wrote: »
    Yep, and after that something to do with Escort Carriers perhaps. ;)
    Probably only the Fed HEC. But I do see a Tac Carrier Warbird and a Flight-Deck Raptor in the KDF's and RRF's future though...
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    sharpie65sharpie65 Member Posts: 679 Arc User
    Just one thing, why do folks prefer the ship to be good-looking? If it does the job (blasting enemies to smithereens, etc.) why on earth do looks matter? It's not as if you get more XP the better looking your ship is anyway*...

    *I can understand the reason for the desire for the Arbiter to at least be a looker, but the Klingons don't and have never cared much for the visual aesthetic of their ships.
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    turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    That 'Arbiter' is one... UGLY ship...

    The KDF and RRF ones look acceptable if nothing else, but that Starfleet one... I can't tell if they either didn't finish putting on the hull plating or just poured glue in a box of ship parts and called whatever they pulled out when it dried a 'T6 Battlecruiser'...
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    lyanaarlyanaar Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    As someone who owns almost every C-Store ship...Lockbox ship and somewhat special ship ingame...these are so ugly...no...just no...the romulan looks OK...but not different enough...but the other two...OMG...kill them with fire...
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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    sharpie65 wrote: »
    Just one thing, why do folks prefer the ship to be good-looking? If it does the job (blasting enemies to smithereens, etc.) why on earth do looks matter? It's not as if you get more XP the better looking your ship is anyway*...

    *I can understand the reason for the desire for the Arbiter to at least be a looker, but the Klingons don't and have never cared much for the visual aesthetic of their ships.
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    That said... beauty is in the eye of the beholder, too. Not just that some people may like ship X better or ship Y. Some may even think the numbers are what's beautiful.
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    reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    $35 for a skin, 1 boff slot, and another pay-for-power trait (looks like a pretty OP one too). Ugh. Its sad how much of a treadmill T6 really is, nothing genuinely innovative just selling the same ships over again with ever more power creep, these or the upcoming rehashes of the Defiant or Prometheus or Excelsior or whatever comes next. And people celebrate this? "Thank you sir may I have another!" They should be ashamed of themselves.
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    happyhappyj0yj0yhappyhappyj0yj0y Member Posts: 699 Arc User
    Wonderful! Because the one thing T6 was lacking was BATTLE CRUISERS! Hurrah!

    *sigh* ... So we get about a ship a month, right? Great, so probably no T6 BoP until...August? So what, around ten months since the release of Delta Rising and the whole "Tier 6" thing? Hey, Cryptic... if you put it off just two more it could be an even year!
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    velquavelqua Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    I actually like the Avenger's original look compared to what's coming. Until we get more ship slots, I'm sitting this one out.
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    hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    It's gonna be really funny when T7 comes out, and they do this yet again... :D
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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    reginamala78 wrote: »
    $35 for a skin, 1 boff slot, and another pay-for-power trait (looks like a pretty OP one too). Ugh. Its sad how much of a treadmill T6 really is, nothing genuinely innovative just selling the same ships over again with ever more power creep, these or the upcoming rehashes of the Defiant or Prometheus or Excelsior or whatever comes next. And people celebrate this? "Thank you sir may I have another!" They should be ashamed of themselves.

    Oh noes, this game that costs me not a cent to play that releases regular updates and a monthly new mission these days is trying to convince people into spending money on it! And some people actually take them on on it!
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    senhnsenhn Member Posts: 2
    edited June 2015
    they are ugly. i don't know who makes the new ships, but maybe he/she should do something else. personally, i bought my latest ship next month, and i won't buy an other one. why i should buy ships? for engouraging cryptic? no way. i can do the same thing day after day with my current ships. I want a better gameplay (smart AI, the end of the sponge mobs), interesting things to do.
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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    senhn wrote: »
    they are ugly. i don't know who makes the new ships, but maybe he/she should do something else. personally, i bought my latest ship next month, and i won't buy an other one. why i should buy ships? for engouraging cryptic? no way. i can do the same thing day after day with my current ships. I want a better gameplay (smart AI, the end of the sponge mobs), interesting things to do.

    And if no one buys ships, then this will also never happen.

    But I think yes - if you're not happy with the game or with the ship design, whatever - don't buy it. If you're not alone in your decision, Cryptic has to do something about it. If not... You have to live with them not needing to change, at least not for their own sake.

    Of course, there is no guarantee that any change is for the better.. If few people buy science vessels, and a lot buy cruisers, Cryptic's obvious reaction is to sell more of the latter and less of the former. (Though that's just another reason to not buy these ships, we don't need to give them any reasons to make more Cruisers! ;) ).

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    thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    Here's to my brand new OP ship mastery! Woot! Woot! All aboard the OP train! Seriously, that's a hardcore mastery for a DCE build.
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    themartianthemartian Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    The Arbiter is uglier than the new forums, so there's that.
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    reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    This game that costs me not a cent to play that releases regular updates and a monthly new mission these days is trying to convince people into spending money on it! And some people actually take them on on it!

    Horizontal progression and greater depth of play I'd happily support. Garbage like these T6 rereleases though are just laziness on Cryptic's part and shows just how little they think of the playerbase (though given how many people buy this TRIBBLE, guess that assessment is correct).
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    hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    We should be celebrating, your favorite T5 ships will be remastered in glorious T6 HD! Type 7 material on the Avenger? Yes please.

    Yep, we're getting everything it seems. There's enough on Cryptic's ship release schedule that will go well into 2016.
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    lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Damn that Kurak looks amazing! But...I'm just not sure I want yet another Battlecruiser. Gonna have to think about that one.

    Edit: D.amn is censored? lol...
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    bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    If they give us free reign on the "kitbash" options Saucer/Hull/Wings/Pylons/Nacelles et al, then you might be able to make something 'not quite as fugly' with the Fed and KDF ships ... maybe.

    The Romulan Ship looks pretty decent, but then, it's more or less only a very slight variation on the Mogai/Valdore, so I guess that's both good and bad.
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    sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    vo ist mein GD T6 Vesta??
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    valenn1valenn1 Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    The T6 Mogai has a beard...
    Does that mean it's from the Mirror Universe?
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    jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    New T6 Avenger?
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